How to find an Irish Grandmother

Started by Alan Cayo on Thursday, May 24, 2012

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5/24/2012 at 1:20 PM

Hello, I am new to Geni and have been trying for several months to get a birth certificate or Baptismal Record of my Grandmother, Margaret Maggie Pentony, born about 1854 in Ireland. I have been completely unsucessful. Can any one advise or help me ? Alan

5/24/2012 at 11:00 PM

Private User has expertise in this area. All I know is that Irish genealogy is difficult due to missing records.

Private User
5/25/2012 at 12:13 AM

Dear Alan Cayo as Hatte Blejer already said researching Irish ancestors can be quite tricky due to the fact that most records were burned during the troubles in Ireland in the old days
Saying that there are some church records that slowly become available .
We have created an Irish portal here on Geni for those of us researching in Ireland, the portal also contains a list of useful links and sources that might help you search.
See http://www.geni.com/discussions/101805

I had a quick look and noticed that www.rootsireland.ie has 18 record matches for the name Margaret Pentony. You say she was your grandmother born in 1854, do you know anything else about her, like did she marry, did she stay in Ireland ect.

I have send you a request to collaborate with me, if you can put up the details and profiles that you do know about I can mabe help you along a bit with your family-tree, if this is ok with you?

Regards

Annemarie

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5/25/2012 at 12:17 AM

Date is a bit off but a good example that some records can be found

Area - DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MARY, PRO CATHEDRAL
Baptism of MARGARET MARY PENTONY of N/R on 24 June 1849
Name MARGARET MARY PENTONY
Date of Birth N/R N/R N/R
Address N/R
Father HENRY PENTONY
Mother CATHERINE
Source http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/eff58d...
Sponsor 1 WILLIAM LOWE
Sponsor 2 ISABELLA SHANNON

Private User
5/25/2012 at 2:28 AM

Of course I meant ''this is a good example'' sorry about the typo

Private User
5/25/2012 at 5:43 AM

I have checked all possible records for Margaret (Maggie) Pentony and the above record is the only one that matches 1854 a bit
Other Margarets are born much earlier or much later (1873 and later)

Church Baptism Penteny Margaret 1805 Co. Dublin
Church Baptism Penthony Margaret 1811 Co. Dublin
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1819 Co. Meath
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1833 Co. Dublin
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1837 Co. Meath
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1849 Co. Dublin
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1878 Co. Meath
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1878 Co. Meath
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1882 Co. Louth
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1886 Co. Louth
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1891 Co. Louth
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1895 Co. Meath
Church Baptism Pentony Margaret 1895 Co. Meath

Private User
5/25/2012 at 9:58 AM

Hi Alan,

You should have received a notification that I have requested to collaborate with you , see a little red box beside your name in the top right corner of the screen. All messages and requests can be viewed there.
No need to give me an email or login, collaborating will allow me to help you with your tree.

Alan, will you do me a favor and remove your message above, everyone can see your login and password, no need for this at all, safer to remove :)

I will have a look what I can find for you

Annemarie

5/25/2012 at 11:25 AM

Thanks Annemarie,
I feel honored to be aided by a desendant of all those Kings, Queens, Counts and Countesses. On page 250 of my ancestors I just found Attilla the Hun. Gisele, my wife, says that explains a lot of things.
Bisous,
Alan

Private User
5/25/2012 at 12:39 PM

Its shows that it is a small world and we are all related :) But Atilla de Hun had his good sides too so that is probably what your wife means
I will have a look at the people in your tree and see where we can find Margarets family in Ireland, I think the Dublin record above could be your Maggie Pentony (btw Pentony is not an Irish name and they were protestant so more then likely English descent)

5/25/2012 at 6:56 PM

My research indicates that she is of Anglo-Norman decent which many call English. The Pentony family name stems from a shortening of "Repentany" after a village of that name in Normandy so I would call her French. No matter though as the Pentony name is most numerous in Loath, Meath and Dublin counties and I suppose if she was born in either North Ireland or the "real" Ireland she would be Irish, n'est-ce pas? Bisous (3), Gisele and Alan

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