Charles Clark - Charles Clark, aka Capt. Charles Clark of Rumney, Grafton County, New Hampshire

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1/25/2013 at 4:59 AM

As part of the proof work to link my ancestor, William Preston (b. 1780) to his parents, I worked with deeds and maps about the Rumney area to prove that a property on which Capt. Charles Clark lived at 1803 was the same property referred to as "formerly owned [by him] in 1808 and the same property transacted still later in 1829 (aka, the "Clark farm"). The "corner of" John Olmstead's land was one of the descriptors used to describe the for that land.

The graphics used for that work are
http://theycamebefore.blogspot.com/2012/07/one-deed-two-deeds-three...
and
http://theycamebefore.wikispaces.com/One+deed%2C+two+deeds%2C+three...

I research this Charles Clark and family from time to time hoping to devise the logic that will prove William Preston's mother was the sister of his Charles Clark. At this point, it is still a circumstantial association.

The link to the Charles Clark - Molley/Molly Brown marriage record follows (NHVR):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11756-64882-54?cc=1520640

1/25/2013 at 6:43 AM

Good researching, GeneJ....

Can you add that link as a Source to Charles' profile, and then also link it to Molly (a.k.a. Mary)'s profile?

If you can't edit the profile to do so, I'm pretty sure that Private User would be happy to "collaborate" or to co-manage the profiles with you so you can improve that data on those profiles!

1/26/2013 at 5:07 AM

Dan Cornett Would love to add reference note citations, but Geni seems interested in documents. Have read (1) Geni's article, "Sources" on its Wiki and the (2) Geni User Tips article, "How to: Add Sourced Facts to Profiles."
The problem doesn't seem to be access, at least not on this profile.

1/26/2013 at 9:36 AM

Thanks for pointing me to those 'aids', GeneJ.

I've edited the Wiki article slightly to add that you can also provide a URL to link to on-line documents. It doesn't really matter whether the "Geni Document" was uploaded or was acquired via providing a URL (or created as a text document "on the fly"). Once created, that "document" is then 'cite-able'.

Neither of those 'aids' currently make clear that there are three different approaches to providing "references":

1) Document-centric: Upload (or provide URL to) a document. Then 'connect' that document to one or more profiles and 'cite' the facts supported by the document. Be sure to 'categorize' the type of document simply to make it easier to find it later.

2) Profile-centric: Use the "Add sources" (on Sources tab) for one profile, and then either upload a new "document" (or URL link) or select one previously uploaded/linked. Then 'cite' a fact supported by that "document"; if you put the "value" in the "Note" field, it will show up when you view the Source tab -- but you can only 'cite' one fact at a time that way.

3) Use the "About" for other "references". Providing URL links in the About description is a great way to provide easy access to on-line information, particularly those which may be considered secondary or tertiary sources (such as Wikipedia or other genealogical on-line sites). Note that you can "hide" the gory details of a URL by enclosing it in square brackets along with the desired 'visible text'.

You can use any and all of these three approaches on one profile: an example is that of Abraham Lincoln, 16th President of the USA. Note the use of both the Sources Tab as well as links in the Overview Tab (the "About" text).

Does that help?

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1/26/2013 at 12:16 PM

Thanks for the pointer to the Abraham Lincoln profile, Dan.

I just wanted to add that I sometimes "also" use the Timeline tab (creating "custom events" to detail and organize documents and images: land platts would very much come to mind as a place to record and cite (through the "description" field there).

1/27/2013 at 2:08 AM

+1. The pointer to Abraham Lincoln's profile is helpful, Dan. I will give the Geni mechanics another stab. I'll also check to see if there is a forum on Geni where there might be more discussion on the topics presented in the Geni wiki article, "Source." (I was disappointed to find there, "The aim for any genealogist is to only use Primary Sources if possible.")

1/29/2013 at 12:44 PM

True, GeneJ ... the ideal is to use only Primary Sources. Another way to think of that might be: Use the best you have at hand now, but continue to seek Primary Sources to verify and validate other sources of information.

The reality is that you use the best sources you have available; the nice thing about Geni is that is someone has better sources, then the corrections and additions can be made without further duplication.

1/30/2013 at 2:54 AM

Hi Dan, The terms Primary, Secondary and Tertiary sources are fine for other disciplins. Genealogists work at a more granular level; I prefer the Mills, Evidence! style terminology for use in genealogy:
Sources = Original or Derivative
Information = Primary or Secondary
Evidence = Direct, Indirect, Circumstantial, etc.

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