Magog - Magog is your 81st great grandfather

Started by Aimee C. Speidel von Ofterdingen Mack on Friday, July 26, 2013

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7/26/2013 at 7:57 AM

Magog is your 81st great grandfather

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7/26/2013 at 8:33 AM

@Magog-Magog is my 91st grt grandfather Judy Rice

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7/26/2013 at 5:03 PM

Magog (Irish version) is your 63rd great grandfather.

7/28/2013 at 6:51 AM

Magog (Irish version) is your 60th great grandfather. :)

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7/28/2013 at 8:54 AM

Magog (Irish version) is my 62nd great grandfather.

8/16/2013 at 12:19 AM

Magog (Irish version) is your 73rd great grandfather

8/16/2013 at 5:45 AM

Magog (Irisch version) is my 76th great grandfather

10/14/2013 at 4:23 PM

Magog (Irish version)

Magog (Irish version) is your 126th great grandfather.

Susan Lynne Schwenger is Magog's 126th great granddaugher

10/14/2013 at 6:55 PM

126th? I only found my 114th, for farthest back. I wonder how far back mine goes. Magog is my 90th Great Grandfather.

10/14/2013 at 10:47 PM

Magog (Irish version) is my 124th great grandfather

10/15/2013 at 2:41 AM

Magog (Irish version) is my 62nd great grandfather.

10/15/2013 at 6:19 AM

Magog (Irish version) is my 64th great grandfather.

10/15/2013 at 7:16 AM

if Magog is estimated between 2565BCE and 2505BCE
- wouldn't you need at least 125 generations to get back that far ???
with the average age of say 35 - and, 2500+2000= approx 4500 years/35=128 .57 generations ???
4500/60=75 years average - women don't have babies at 75 years old

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10/15/2013 at 8:27 AM

Magog (Irish version) In my case, He is my oldest ancestor, he's my 124th great grand father!

10/15/2013 at 9:44 AM

well he is just legend/story after all, sort of like Zeus here being my grandfather...

10/15/2013 at 9:03 PM

depends on different factors. According to sources, Methusela lived to be almost a millenia.

@Kristen. There is no proof one way or the other. But Why couldn't these people have existed? I don't mean the myths we have come to know. but people who were extraordinary for their time and situation. Look at what jesus supposedly did. Walked on water. People now use that as a phrase.

10/17/2013 at 11:28 AM

This Magog was an invention of medieval monks. They were doing genealogy, just as we are, with the best sources they had available. They believed the Irish had to be descended from Noah somehow. Wasn't everyone? So, they hit on Magog. Yeah, that must be it.

Today, we can see see where they went wrong. They miscalculated the number of generations required to get back that far. We can cut them some slack, I think. They didn't really know. They were just guessing, like some genealogists today ;)

We keep this profile on Geni, and others like it, for the historical interest -- this is what our ancestors believed. Irish Magog can make us smile, but none of us should take him seriously.

11/28/2013 at 8:12 PM

looks like this one; got messed up again :(

11/28/2013 at 8:22 PM

This is a copy of what i used to show as accurate:
Magog (Irish version)
This is the Master Profile for Magog (Irish version).
Curator Note from Justin Swanström (2/24/2013):

Disconnected from the Biblical tree.
See the notes below and the discussion at http://www.geni.com/discussions/120216.

Locked to prevent merges with the Biblical Magog.

Magog (Irish version) is your 115th great grandfather.

You - Susan Lynne Schwenger

Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
your mother

james edward handy
her father

JAMES handy
his father

Marian Ruthven
his mother

ALEXANDER RUTHVEN
her father

ROBERT RUTHVEN
his father

JOHN RUTHVEN
his father

JOHN RUTHVEN
his father

John Ruthven
his father

George Ruthven
his father

William Ruthven
his father

William Ruthven
his father

Sir William Ruthven
his father

Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
his mother

Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
her father

George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
his father

Sir John Halyburton
his father

Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
his mother

Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard
her mother

Joan de Menteith
her mother

Helena of Mar
her mother

Gartnait MacDomhnaill, 7th Earl of Mar
her father

Elen ferch Llywelyn, Countess
his mother

Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales
her father

Iorwerth Drwyndwn ap Owain
his father

Gwladys verch Llywarch
his mother

Dyddgu verch Iorwerth
her mother

Iorwerth ap Cadwgon
her father

Elen verch Brochwel
his mother

Brochwel ab Aeddan, Lord of Powys
her father

Aeddan ap Cyngen
his father

Cyngen ap Cadell
his father

Cadell ap Brochwel
his father

Brochwel ap Elisedd
his father

Elisedd ap Gwylog
his father

Sanan ferch Nowy
his mother

Nowy ap Arthwyr
her father

Arthwyr ap Pedr
his father

Pedr ap Cyngar
his father

Cyngar ap Gwerthefyr
his father

Gwerthefyr ap Aergul lawhir
his father

Aircol ap Triffyn, King Of Demetia
his father

Triffyn mac Aed Brosc, Brenin Dyfed
his father

Aed Brosc mac Corath, King
his father

Corach ap Eochaid Allmuir
his father

Eochaid Allmuir mac Art Corp
his father

Art Corp mac Cairbre Rigron
his father

Cairpre Rigronn mac Fiachadh
his father

Fiachadh mac Fedelmid
his father

Fedlimid Rechtmar, 108th High King of Ireland
his father

Túathal Teachtmhar, 106th High King of Ireland
his father

Fiacha Finnfolaidh mac Feredach, Ard rí na h'Éireann
his father

Feradach Finnfechtnach mac Crimhthann, Ard rí na h'Éireann
his father

Criomhthann Niadh Nár mac Lughaidh, Rí na h'Éireann
his father

Lughaidh Sriabh-n Dearg mac Findemna, Rí na h'Éireann
his father

Bres, Nár and Lothar Findemna mac Echdach
his father

Eochaidh Feidlioch mac Fionn, Rí na h'Éireann
his father

Finn mac Fionlogha, King in Ireland
his father

Fionnlogh O'Henna, King in Ireland
his father

Roignein Ruadh Mac Esamon O'Henna, King of Ireland
his father

Eassamhuin Eamhna mac Enna
his father

Enna Aignech, Ard Rí na h'Éireann
his father

Aengus Tuirbheach, 81st High King of Ireland
his father

Eochaid Ailtleathan, 79th High King of Ireland
his father

Ailill Cas-Fiacalaig, 77th High King of Ireland
his father

Condla Cáem, 76th High King of Ireland
his father

Irero Gleo Fáthach, 74th High King of Ireland
his father

Meilge Molbhthach, 71st High King of Ireland
his father

Cobhthach Cóel Breg, High King of Ireland
his father

Úgaine Mór mac Echach, 66th High King of Ireland
his father

Eochaid Buaidhaig mac Duach
his father

Duach II mac Fiachach
his father

Fiachadh mac Muiredach
his father

Muireadhach I Balgrach mac Simon
his father

Simon mac Aedham, King of Ireland
his father

Aedham Glas mac Nuadhat, King of Ireland
his father

Nuadhat Finn Fail mac Giallchaidh
his father

Giallchaidh mac Olioll, 37th High King of Ireland
his father

Oilioll Olchaoin mac Siorna, King of Ireland
his father

Siorna Saoghalach mac Dain, Ard Rí na h'Éireann
his father

Deman MacRothechtaid, Prince of Ireland
his father

Rothechtaid MacMaen
his father

Maoin I Oilbhuagach MacAongus
his father

Aonghus Olmucadha The Big Headed One Mac Fiacha, Rí na h'Éireann
his father

Fiacha Labhrainne MacSimorgoill
his father

Simorgoill mac Eanbotha, High King of Ireland
his father

Eanbrotha MacTighearnmas King of Ireland
his father

Tighearnmhas Masius mac Follach, High King of Ireland
his father

Follach Folian mac Eithrial
his father

Eithriall, 11th High King of Ireland
his father

Irial Faidh mac Eremoin, 10th Ard Rí na h'Éireann
his father

Érimón mac Míl Espáine, 2nd High King of Ireland
his father

Galamh / Milesius
his father

Bilé mac Breoghain, King of Galicia
his father

Breoghan, King of Galicia
his father

Brath, King of Gothia
his father

Deag, King of Gothia
his father

Arcadh, King of Gothia
his father

Alladh, King of Gothia
his father

Nuadhad, King of Gothia
his father

Nenuall, King of Gothia
his father

Febric Glas, King of Gothia
his father

Agnan Fionn, King of Gothia
his father

Heber Glunfionn
his father

Lamhfionn
his father

Agnon
his father

Tait, King of Scythia
his father

Oghaman, King of Scythia
his father

Beouman, King of Scythia
his father

Heber Scut
his father

Sruth / Srú
his father

Asruth
his father

Gaodhal Glas
his father

Neuil Nemnach, King of Scythia
his father

Phoeniusa Farsaidh, King of Scythia
his father

Bathath
his father

Magog (Irish version)
his father

Magog
Birth: estimated between 2565BCE and 2505BCE
Immediate Family:

Husband of Wife of Magog
Father of Bathath; Faithechta; Emoth and Jobbath
Brother of Joham
Added by: Kaylene Hansen on July 26, 2010
Managed by: Kaylene Hansen Nelson Jenkins and 2 others
Curated by: Justin Swanström

This is Magog, legendary ancestor of the Irish kings.
For the Biblical Magog, see Magog.

According to the Bible, one of Noah's grandsons was Magog / מגוג (Genesis 10:2; Chronicles 1:5).

Biblical scholars generally believe that Magog was intended to be the ancestor of the Scythians,
north of the Black Sea.

Two of Magog's sons were named in the 16th century Book of Jasher: Elichanaf / אליחורף and Lubal / לובב (Book of Jasher 7:4; ספר הישר - פרשת נח).

Irish legend gives Magog another four sons: Bathath, Faithechta, Jobbath, and Emoth.

According to the 11th century Lebor Gabála Érenn (Book of the Invasions of Ireland)
and the 17th century Annals of the Four Masters, these sons were the ancestors of the Irish kings.

These lines from the Irish kings back to Adam and Eve entered the genealogical mainstream
in the works of John O'Hart (1824-1902).

They now appear in thousands of Internet genealogies, but cannot be considered an authentic tradition.

Magog (Irish version)

11/28/2013 at 8:34 PM

Anyone with a line down from this Magog probably has dozens or even hundreds of different paths back to him. These lines will never stabilize on Geni. It's the nature of Geni that medieval lines are being added and corrected every day.

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11/28/2013 at 10:27 PM

Magog (Irish version) is my 70th great grandfather.

Private User
11/29/2013 at 2:36 AM

Magog (Irish version) is my 69th great grandfather.

11/29/2013 at 11:55 AM

Magog-Magog is my 71st great grandfather.

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11/29/2013 at 1:23 PM

Magog (Irish version) is your 63rd great grandfather.

11/30/2013 at 3:04 PM

60th Great Grandfather

11/30/2013 at 6:35 PM

99th great grandfather for me.

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11/30/2013 at 6:56 PM

@Magog (Irish version) is my 61 st great grandfather.

12/1/2013 at 6:42 PM

Aengus Tuirbheach, 81st High King of Ireland
Aengus Tuirbheach, 81st High King of Ireland shows as my 68th great grandfather

however,
the father show as: Eochaid Ailtleathan, 79th High King of Ireland is your 22nd great grandfather's wife's 49th great grandfather.

does this require some kind of reset ?

the error seems to travel all the way back to

Magog (Irish version)
This is the Master Profile for Magog (Irish version).
Curator Note from Justin Swanström (2/24/2013)

thanks; susan

12/1/2013 at 7:40 PM

it should look like this judy ...
Susan Lynne Schwenger - Aengus Tuirbheach, 81st High King of Ireland is your 68th great grandfather.
You
→ Lynda Mae Handy - Schwenger
your mother → JAMES "Jim" EDWARD HANDY JR.
her father → Viola Mae Drury - her mother, Handy JAMES HANDY
his father → Marrian Marion Ruthven-Handy-Satchell
his mother → Alexander Ruthven
her father → Robert Ruthven
his father → John Ruthven
his father → John Ruthven
his father → John Ruthven
his father → George Ruthven
his father → William Alexander Ruthven
his father → William Ruthven
his father → Sir William Ruthven
his father → Janet Ruthven (Halyburton), 6th Lady Dirletoun
his mother → Patrick Halyburton, 5th/6th Lord Dirletoun
her father → George Halyburton, 3rd/4th Lord Dirletoun
his father → Sir John Halyburton
his father → Marjorie Stewart Haliburton, Countess of Atholl
his mother → Joanna Moray, Lady of Drumersgard
her mother → Joan de Menteith
her mother → Helena of Mar
her mother → Christian Bruce
her mother → Robert de Bruce, 6th Lord of Annandale
her father → Robert de Brus, 5th Lord of Annandale
his father → Isabel of Huntingdon
his mother → David, Earl of Huntingdon
her father → Henry, Earl of Huntingdon
his father → David I, King of Scots
his father → Malcolm III, 'Canmore', King of Scots
his father → Duncan I, King of Scots
his father → Crínán of Dunkeld
his father → Duncan of Atholl, Mormaer of Atholl
his father → Duncan mac Donachadh of Dull, Earl of Strathclyde, Thane of Dule; Abbot of Dunkeld
his father → Familia de Tir Connial Thane of Dule
his father → Familia de Tir Thane of Dule
his father → Naill Glundub mac Aedo
his father → Áed Findliath
his father → Niall Caille
his father → Áed Ordnidhe mac Néill, Ard-rí na h'Éireann
his father → Niall Frossach mac Fergail, Ard-rí na h'Éireann
his father → Fergal mac Maele Duin, Ard-rí na h'Éireann
his father → Máel Dúin mac Máele Fithrich, King Of Ailech
his father → Máel Fithrich
his father → Áed Uaridnach
his father → Domnall Ilchelgach mac Muirchertaig, Ard-rí na h'Éireann
his father → Muirchertach mac Muiredaig
his father → Muiredach mac Eógain, Rí na h'Ailech
his father → Eógan mac Néill
his father → Niall of the Nine Hostages, King of the Connachta
his father → Eochaid Muigh Meadhoin Mugmedon
his father → Muireadach Tireach, 122nd High King of Ireland
his father → Fiacha Srabhteine, 128th High King of Ireland
his father → Cairpre Lithfeachair, 117th High King of Ireland
his father → Cormac Ulfheda, 115th High King of Ireland
his father → Art Eanfhear "the Solitary", 112th High King of Ireland
his father → Conn of the Hundred Battles, 110th High King of Ireland
his father → Fedlimid Rechtmar, 108th High King of Ireland
his father → Túathal Teachtmhar, 106th High King of Ireland
his father → Fiacha Finnfolaidh, High King of Ireland
his father → Feradach Finnfechtnach mac Crimhthann, Ard rí na h'Éireann
his father → Criomhthann Niadh Nár mac Lughaidh, Rí na h'Éireann
his father → Lughaidh Sriabh-n Dearg mac Findemna, Rí na h'Éireann
his father → Bres, Nár and Lothar Findemna mac Echdach
his father → Eochaidh Feidlioch mac Fionn, Rí na h'Éireann
his father → Finn mac Fionlogha, King in Ireland
his father → Fionnlogh O'Henna, King in Ireland
his father → Roignein Ruadh Mac Esamon O'Henna, King of Ireland
his father → Eassamhuin Eamhna mac Enna
his father → Enna Aignech, Ard Rí na h'Éireann
his father → Aengus Tuirbheach, 81st High King of Ireland
his father - and, then
(this is where the error is)
Aengus Tuirbheach, 81st High King of Ireland
his father → Eochaid Ailtleathan, 79th High King of Ireland
his father → Ailill Cas-Fiacalaig, 77th High King of Ireland
his father → Condla Cáem, 76th High King of Ireland
his father → Irero Gleo Fáthach, 74th High King of Ireland
his father → Meilge Molbhthach, 71st High King of Ireland
his father → Cobhthach Cóel Breg, High King of Ireland
his father → Úgaine Mór mac Echach, 66th High King of Ireland
his father → Eochaid Buaidhaig mac Duach
his father → Duach II Laghrach
his father → Fiachadh mac Muiredach
his father → Muireadhach I mac Simon
his father → Simon mac Aedham, King of Ireland
his father → Aedham/Aodhan Glas, King of Ireland
his father → Nuadhat mac Giallchaidh
his father → Giallchaidh mac Olioll, 37th High King of Ireland
his father → Oilioll Olchaoin mac Siorna, King of Ireland
his father → Siorna Saoghalach mac Dain, Ard Rí na h'Éireann
his father → Dian mac Rotheachta, Prince of Ireland
his father → Rothechtaid mac Maoin
his father → Maoin I Oilbhuagach MacAongus
his father → Aonghus Olmucadha The Big Headed One Mac Fiacha, Rí na h'Éireann
his father → Fiacha Labhrainne MacSimorgoill
his father → Simorgoill mac Eanbotha, High King of Ireland
his father → Eanbrotha MacTighearnmas King of Ireland
his father → Tighearnmhas Masius mac Follach, High King of Ireland
his father → Follach Folian mac Eithrial
his father → Eithriall, 11th High King of Ireland
his father → Irial Faidh, 10th High King of Ireland
his father → Érimón mac Míl Espáine, 2nd High King of Ireland
his father → Galamh / Milesius
his father → Bilé mac Breoghain, King of Galicia
his father → Breoghan, King of Galicia
his father → Brath, King of Gothia
his father → Deag King of Geulia, King of Gothia
his father → Arcadh King of Geulia, King of Gothia
his father → Alladh King of Ireland, King of Gothia
his father → Nuadhad King of Ireland, King of Gothia
his father → Nenuall King of Gothland, King of Gothia
his father → Febric Glas, King of Gothia
his father → Agnan Fionn, King of Gothia
his father → Heber Glunfionn
his father → Lamhfionn
his father → Agnon
his father → Tait, King of Scythia
his father → Oghaman, King of Scythia
his father → Beouman, King of Scythia
his father → Heber Scut
his father → Sruth / Srú
his father → Asruth
his father → Gaodhal Glas .
his father → Neuil Nemnach, King of Scythia
his father → Phoeniusa Farsaidh, King of Scythia
his father → Bathath
his father to Magog

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