Where are the McLeans?

Hello (No Name) ,

I don't have any McLeans that I know of but my Slakeld line connects to your Lansing Wilcox Paddock. It shows a distant path between me and him but closer another way.

Loam Wilcox Paddock

https://www.geni.com/path/Lansing-Wilcox-Paddock+is+related+to+Geor...

Try following the Surname McLean on geni and see if any profiles may give some clues.

Good luck.

Jamey

Oh that's really neat Heather. I still am waiting for my mom to show my our Wallace and Pierce family Bible's.
Many Paddocks on the tree from Kansas I worked on went back to NY.

If you go to the Geni menu under research, pull the menu down and Surname is where you want to click. Then enter the name you want to look up.

Have fun.

I need to read more books on the Cherokee. I am still working on learning of my Chickasaw and Choctaw.

Talk to you again,

Jamey

Gvlieliga ...Your Welcome, ...still to learn Cherokee.

I am not familiar with Letty, but sounds like she is important to you.

Chitnittakat chinchockma' shki. -Have a nice day. (in Chickasaw)

=)

I hope you find something on her that actually will lend to her being Cherokee.
I know many people made adjustments. Some of my Fullblood Chickasaw and Choctaw relatives even claimed less Native blood inorder to be able to have control over their land alotments. If a fullblood Native was given an land alotment they were required someone to hold it in trust for them. Often, many were swindled out of their rightful land this way.
Several of my ancestors even claimed white on census records while their family was listed on the Dawes. I don't think that it is so cut and dry with records as I said before. I suppose my opinion does not really matter as each tribe is able to determine the degree of Indian Blood necessary to actually enroll or be able to "officially" claim Native American blood. In a way the rolls are used to phase out Native Blood. As People mixed in with the whtes and settlers. Natvie people were expected to assimilate and become Americans. Many married whites and mixed in and forgot their hertitage and were ashamed to be called Indian because of predjucides at the time. If not for my second great grandfather requesting family names and Dawes roll numbers, then my family would not have been able to be called Chickasaw and Choctaw.
It was only in 1995 that my grandmother helped all of us become tribal citizens. This because we could trace back to our ancestor on the Dawes. My family was very active in the tribal affairs and establishing the Chickasaw Nation. I wish I was able to trace my supposed Cherokee but I have been able to find two other links in my tree from Geni.
I am all for records and truth of if someone was Native, Jewish, Spanish, Dutch, whatever you name it. The only thing I won't completely discount is the family stories. Sometimes they are wrong and misinformation was given based on regions, but many times they were correct.

I belive I have some Durham in my tree as well or linked through marriages according to Geni paths...those change often though so, who knows.

Anyway, I have enjoyed Geni, but some things, you just can't prove I guess as many have said on here. I am wondering who made up the Moytoy tree?
If Cherokee often adopted people into their tribe, how do we know who was actually Native American? Oh, I forgot, they are the most well documented. I guess I should take note and learn and not be synical. I know that many tribes intermarried as well.

Some instances, one may have signed up on a roll as a particular tribe with a certain blood quantum but the other tribe or tribes of their heritage were not listed.

One of my half Chickasaw and half Choctaw relatives was listed on both rolls and had to choose one.

Also, sometimes people signed up on a spouses roll as Non-Native. Were they always white? Problaly not.

I hope you enjoy all that you have learned about the Eastern Band of Cherokee. I enjoy languages and learning of various cultures as well.

Heather, thank you for your reply. I laughed out loud at your funny story!
I will check out the link.
I just talked with my Chickasaw/Choctaw grandmother (and white...that matter too...)yesterday about finding our family and how she was in OK at a gathering and at her table they were all cousins, all the family names I have been researching. She said they shared stories and had a great time.

Thanks for the link I will check it out.

Thank you Heather.

I just found this blog and it's an interesting read on the Rolls, mainly Dawes and land allotment verses enrollment.

I will post on the Cherokee discussion.

http://www.powwows.com/myths-misinformation-and-motivations-regardi...

thank you Heather, I started to read it. I think I have seen a site on this Smith before'

Yes, many have interesting stories. Funny thing it my gr grandmother's Cherokee story is similar to Elizabeth Warren's story gr granmother was Indian and it was frowned upon for the white ancestor to marry her, ect. Just like mine. I sitll can't really pin down the Cherokee in my line on that branch. Oh well. I guess I could do DNA. I wonder if Elizabeth Warren will or did. It is kind of a touchy subject with her Cherokee claim but she has a similar story to many others true or not.

Have fun with your family trees.

Thank yoiu Heather,

I didn't know you were related to her family. I hear you, I am not taking a stance either way on her claim. I just was curious on her tree and did some searching the other day. I found many listed as white and photos attached to her gr grandfather who looked not white, or al least not all white. Anyway, yes, follow your heart and the things you love.

Nice to meet you as well.

=)

PS we are 11th cousins
(No Name)