Mayflower Passengers

I have been bitterly disappointed to find there is no Dorothy Parker profile in geni, and am currently consoling myself by building out Alfred, Lord Tennyson's family line.

I need a Project to associate Robert Parker with before I even venture there. He's from Springfield, MA so there's a chance he's old New England.

Of course the Dorothy Parker name is by marriage. By birth she's a Rothschild -- but you will be pleased to know that her mother was a Scot.

"Also known as Dot or Dottie, Parker was born Dorothy Rothschild to Jacob Henry and Eliza Annie Rothschild (née Marston) where her parents had a summer beach cottage. Dorothy's mother was of Scottish descent, and her father was of German-Jewish descent (unrelated, however, to the Rothschild banking dynasty)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Parker

Pilgrims in North Africa? Don't they do that on the way to Mecca? Hey we did it. They stopped by Brunei of course and that's how Ahmad is related. Cool!

Ben M. Angel how on earth did u figure out the math to do it lol

Anita M. Boynton
thanks for the link, thats useful :)

@Erica Howton we dun really celebrate thanksgiving here in brunei but actually i enjoyed it when i was a student way back in the early 1990s, i was in liverpool, UK (the beatles eh)... anyway, we have other celebrations which is jointly celebrated with our beloved monarch such as eid mubarak etc, its a huge party and ur most welcome to join us :)

They might, but the turkey has to be halal... however, I don't remember too many pilgrims from Central Asia planning on venturing through Brunei to get to Saudi Arabia. Certainly wouldn't expect too many Bedouins passing through that way. Ahmad would be able to correct that if I'm wrong.

It's probably time for me to sleep. It's morning outside again...

What? Dorothy is not Marie of Roumania? :)

turkey was halal when we had the thanksgiving, coz i bought it myself, it was huge, we ended up eating turkey for a week, sandwiches etc :)

whats up with them bedouins? according to my ancestors list, not too sure if they are bedouins hehe

Aren't we glad that we are all related somehow? Someone commented that if Adam and Eve were the first two humans then we are all related anyway!! How long ago did that start? 6,000 years ago? The Egyptians and the Chinese were around for a lot longer than that. Were they not humans then? So who were Adam and Eve and when did they live on Earth?

Ahmad and Kamal,

This is a chance for me to give out one of my favorite websites:

http://www.silkroadproject.org/tabid/177/defaul.aspx

"The historical Silk Road comprised a series of land and sea trade routes that crisscrossed Eurasia from the first millennium B.C.E. through the middle of the second millennium C.E. The intersections among people from diverse cultures along the way promoted an unprecedented sharing of commodities, ideas, arts, sciences and innovations."

I do believe that our peoples long since intersected in glorious ways, and that genealogy is just a rediscovery of what our ancestors always knew: we are all cousins.

Ahmad, English food is a lot better these days than the early 1990s. :) When you come to New York City next we'll do it up right -- and Halal, that is not a problem here.

yes, i also believe that people during those days can live up to 1000 years, so its possibility "-)

thnks for the offer erica... last time i went to new york was in 1994 when i was student, a very metropolitan city i must say... and busier than london too...

lol, i remember english food is basically fish and chips with those mushy beans... sometimes u add curry or vinegar... i dun my doctor would allow me to eat such nutritious food these, its mostly boiled with rice... :)

ic ant access ur silkroad website... whats it about in a nutshell?? :)

The Silk Road gets its name from the lucrative Chinese silk trade, a major reason for the connection of trade routes into an extensive trans-continental network.

I tried to post the wikipedia link for you and my network burped. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road

I lived off the Silk Road in two places - Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, and Baku, Azerbaijan. Baku's Old Town still makes a big thing about it, preserving the old Caravanserai near the Maiden Tower and such. And of course there are still old fortification ruins near Issyk Kul, a deep lake that has tons of warm springs resorts on the shores.

Ooops, Mayflower, hehee... somehow we ended up on completely the other side of the world from Massachusetts. How to tie that in... I think Thomas Rogers was selling camel hair cloth when he was in Leiden. Silk Route product? Maybe... :)

Aloha from Hawaii, Brendon et al. I am a beginner on Geni.com. (2007?) and vistied the Brithish Isles in 1995 to research the "Sills" family. I am wondering if that name appears on the Mayflower passenger list.
The surname "Sills" is derived from variants such as Sill, Silson. The Latin origin means "forrest dweller".
The first established "Sills" was "John Sills" (born in 1610 of Northumberland) who settled in Massachutsetts in 1637. In Canada, John Payne Sills emigrated from Berkshire in 1861.
Is there any Sills, Sill or Silson on the Mayflower passenger list that you are aware of?
Any adivce you can offer regarding my endevors to trace my ancestors is greatly appreciated. Thus far, I have information only as far back as my great-great grandfather Sills.
Thank you

Aloha on back to you Stephanie!

25 degrees here in NYC today.:)

I am pretty sure that the name Sills / Sill / Silson is not on the Mayflower passenger list. You can double check for yourself here:

http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/mayflower/mayflower_passenger_list...

However -- "The Great Migration" of ships from England resulted in thousands of passengers in the years 1625-1640, so arrival of John Sills in 1637 sounds likely enough. There is a cumbersome but useful website here:

http://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/shiplist.htm

Sending sunshine your way.
Mahalo (thank you).
Fondest Aloha,
Stephanie

I hesitate to say this... but I do not think the MP profiile of Joseph Rogers is quite right.... perhaps due to some merges that have taken place... I do not see in the MP profile that Tomas Rogers was his father but that there is a ??? Rogers listed as his father, and there are some other anomalies... Please check and see?
I saw it on the profile comparison
http://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000000113830631?return=duplic...

I got my info from a number of family trees on ancestry.com, including the Rogers Family Records. There are a number of things that are different on the various trees, and I'm not certain which one is correct, though I lean toward the Rogers tree.

Story Title: Rogers Family Records Location: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/data/database.cgi?file=Data&... Description: 1. Joseph: 1607-1678; came to America in the Mayflower, 1620; moved from Plymouth to Mass., m. Hannah.
Ch.: Joseph (b. about 1635, died 1660), John (b. about 1642), James (b. about 1648), William (b. about 1655), Thomas (b. about 1638
Submitted By: jdkhale

Aloha Sally,
It appears that you have valid concerns. While there are some discrepencies and similarities, some data conflicts exist. We can resolve data conflicts by selecting correct entries or cancel merge requests.
Mahalo (Thank you) for pointing this out!
Stephanie (email stephanieterlep@yahoo.com)

Post deleted by Private User on Dec 20, 2010 at 2:50 AM

Everyone,

This list of Mayflower passengers is based on Gov Bradford's inventory as published in "Of Plymouth Plantation" (you can read the book for yourself online several places.

http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/mayflower/mayflower_passenger_list...

It says about the Rogers:

Rogers, THOMAS Birth by about 1572, son of William and Eleanor (____) Rogers of Watford, Northamptonshire. He died in Plymouth, soon after arrival, although his son JOSEPH, the only of his children to come with him, survived. Bradford notes that "his other children came afterwards," but of those only John Rogers is known to have arrived.

Rogers, JOSEPH son Bp. 23 January 1602/3. Married by 1633 Hanah _____ who is mentioned in his will of 2 January 1677/8. It is not certain that she was his only wife, nor the mother of his children. He died Eastham after January 2, 1677/8 (will) and before Jan. 15, 1677/8 when Joseph's inventory was taken. Buried there in the Old Cove Burial Ground.

Children:

1. Sarah, died as infant;
2. Joseph, prob. born Duxbury 19 July, 1635, m. Eastham 4 April 1660, Susanna Deane, dau. of Stephen and Elizabeth (Ring) Deane, no known children;
3. THOMAS b. prob Duxbury 29 March 1638, m. Eastham, 13 December 1665, Elizabeth Snow;
4. Elizabeth, b. prob. Duxbury, 29 Sept 1639, m. Eastham 9 January 1660, Jonathan Higgins;
5. John, b. prob. Duxbury, 3 April 1642, m. Eastham 19 Aug 1669 Elizabeth Twining;
6. Mary, b. prob Duxbury, 22 Sept 1644, m. Barnstable aft. 19 April 1718, John Phinney;
7. James, b. Eastham 18 Oct. 1648, m. Eastham 11 Jan 1670, Mary Paine;
8. Hannah, b. Sandwich or Eastham 8 Aug 1652, m. aft. 16 July 1679 Jonathan Higgens.

Hope this helps.

Aloha Kakahiaka (good morning)!
It is 1:07 A.M. in Hawaii and a storm is over the Island of Kauai. Rain yet to come on the Big Island. Kilauea Volcano is erupting so we have the snow on Mauna Kea and the fires in Kilauea at the same time. I have confidence that at least one of our common ancestors or their defendants must have seen these wonders as well.

Erica.... so.... in order to straighten out the Rogers line... what can we do? Should I go in on my line which apparently is everyone eles line, (I am not complaining about that) should I start taking out relatives that are not right? I mean taking out the connections and thus hope that no one else merges something incorrect in the future. I find that many of my line are done as far as I would like to go for the most part, but the problem is that I have to keep going in to see if A... they are still there, and B... have they been changes to reflect incorrections. I feel like I am constantly in the position of being a house keeper in my trees.... Constantly in the maintenance mode.

Also... I am unable to edit in my tree, the Thomas Rogers, father of Joseph. I wanted to put in correct info on him, but cannot. And was Joseph really a Lt.? I did not know there were assigned ranks at that time, since we had no standing military at that time? Here is my tree....
http://www.geni.com/family-tree#6000000004575024642

Private User All the sources I saw have Anna Churchman as the wife of James Rogers. Their daughter, Elizabeth, married my ancestor, Richard Williams.

Richard Williams (immigrant)

For instance, from the Thomas Rogers Society:

http://www.thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm

John Rogers1
M, b. 6 April 1606, d. between 26 August 1691 and 20 September 1692
John Rogers|b. 6 Apr 1606\nd. bt 26 Aug 1691 - 20 Sep 1692|

John Rogers was baptized on 6 April 1606 at Watford, co. Northamptonshire, England. He was the son of Thomas Rogers [Mayflower Pilgrim] and Alice Cosford.2 John Rogers John Rogers probably came to Plymouth about 1630 with the last of the Pilgrims to leave the Separatist enclave. He was first taxed in 1633 at Plymouth and on 20 Oct 1634 he bought a lot at Duxbury from Edmund Chandler. With his brother Joseph and others, he had a grant of fifty acares at Marshfield 6 April 1640. At Duxbury he was a surveyor of highways in 1644, deputy to the General Court in 1657, and constable in 1666. As an "ancient freeman" of the colony, he was granted land at Taunton on 3 June 1662. He had another hundred acres on Coteticutt (Titicut) River in 1667 and in 1673 another hundred acres on the northeast side of Taunto. He is call "weaver" in a deed conveying one acre in Duxbury to Wrestling Brewster in 1680. His will dated 26 Aug 1691 was proved 20 Sept 1692. He married Anna Churchman on 16 April 1639 at Plymouth.1 John Rogers died between 26 August 1691 and 20 September 1692 at Duxbury.
Children of John Rogers and Anna Churchman

* (H)Anna Rogers+3 b. bt 1640 - 1650, d. a 8 Jun 1704
* John Rogers+3 b. c 1640, d. 28 Jun 1732
* Abigail Rogers+3 b. c 1640, d. 1 Aug 1727
* Elizabeth Rogers+3 b. b 1652, d. a 7 Mar 1703

Dear Sally Thomas,

I know exactly how exasperated and frustrated you feel.
I have been having the same problems with the Parke family.

At the moment, I continue to try to correct mistakes wherever I can.

I do not want the responsibilities of the curators, so I am unable to
manage technical changes which they are authorized to do.

So far as the title Lt. goes for Joseph Rogers, it may be correct.

Militia groups used terms such as corporal, lieutenant, and captain.
They were formed to protect a village from the Indians. They organized
the leadership to make their work more efficient.

Ethel Johanna Myers Stanton

Ben Angel

You have really lived an adventurous life......in far off places of Asia and
South America.

That takes courage and ingenuity.

Ethel Johanna Myers