Mayflower Passengers

Hatte,

Thank you for posting the Thomas Rogers Society. My understanding is that it's the best resource for Rogers descendants. If you notice, I was focusing on the simpler question of "who were the Mayflower passengers." 26 of them with descendants! Not more!!!! NONE from ROYALTY. :) :) :)

Ethel,

I am fortifying myself for another pass at the Parkes. As you know, my last attempt drove me to Margharita-ville ... but glad to have gotten my own Parks of Virginia separated from them. :)

Erica:
Excellent information about Thomas Rogers and his son Joseph.

Ethel

Sally,

I think it would help if you worked backwards in time -- from most recent on up in your line, sourcing as you go in the "overview / about me" tab.

I am working from Thomas Rogers, "Mayflower" Passenger, and around his immediate family. I'll probably surface again on Wednesday. :) :)

Then we'll check in and see how the pathing and permissions look for all of us. Sound like a plan?

P.S. Ben Angel was muttering something about hacksaws to the Rogers tree. I suggested that was out of period so he's off hunting for an obsidian knife. :) :)

Erica, I have the right info, just cannot go in and put it in. When ever I open my tree I always start from me and work back in time, and that is when I find the errors, back in time... close to the source. ok, I will add any thing i have to each profile as I go along... I will look up all my old paper work I have on the Rogers line that I used to gain membership to the Society of the mayflower Descendants. I am going to have to dig deep, since I have been a member for many years. I hope I can find it all.

Sally, why don't you use the online link?

http://www.thomasrogerssociety.com/

You can quickly copy and paste from there to a Word document and work on it off line.

Wonderfull, Brendan !

Erica: No no no... an obsidian hacksaw. Still sawing away (and grafting... lots of grafting)...

OMG what happened over there????? You do see my work today? I've been on it for 5 hours straight!

I've been on it for three days straight... but I'm trying to do preventive as well as corrective action... (everyone in the TRS accepted tree gets an MP - non-MPs eventually get the boot...)

How can I help... I'm part of the project, but I'm getting to the discussion late it seems. :-)

Jeff -- can you get the MPs loaded to the project? That's one of the biggest pains. Let us know if you don't have access.

Then the second part -- maybe in Project discussions -- is to figure out how to prevent this implosion from happening again. I swear the tree was clean for at least 5 minutes. So something went wrong systemically -- which means we need systemic solutions.

Also - are we accepting the sometimes problematic James Rogers as a son of "Mayflower" Thomas Rogers?

The Rogers families should review the evidence and make a decision together on how he is best represented in Geni.

Findagrave has James Rogers as the son of John Rogers & Elizabeth Bostwick.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=32476584

James Rogers, of New London

Findagrave is not a great source but they're usually not fantasists either.

Erica, do you mean editing the wiki of the project to reflect the links to the MP, or do you mean that we have MP out there of passengers that have not yet been added to the project?

I'll have to read through the discussion to see the implosion your talking about.

So which is the master wiki at the moment... the project page or the Geni wiki?

The Project page (specifically - the Thomas Rogers descendants project).

I think the Geni Community Wiki is evolving toward more long term help such as FAQ, naming conventions. Projects are more collections of profiles and dedicated discussion around a family line, event, topic, presentation.

So to make a decision about James Rogers, sometimes considered a son of Thomas Rogers the Mayflower Passenger, maybe best done there (and a good way to make sure the Rogers's are in the Project).

To see the implosion go here and don't weep too hard. It's better than it was yesterday.

Thomas Rogers, "Mayflower" Passenger

His descendants project is here: http://www.geni.com/projects/Thomas-Rogers-Pilgrim-and-Some-of-His-...

To join it, follow it first, then it will appear in your "drop down" list. Then you can add any public profile you have edit rights to (collaborator or manager) to the Project under "more actions."

Interesting... I'll focus first on the ones that I'm descended from. I did some connecting at Thanksgiving and I'm a direct ancestor of 10 mayflower passengers. So I'll focus on making sure these profiles are all clean and accurate.

· Mary Love Brewster – 12th great grandmother

· William Brewster, III – 12th great grandfather

· Francis Cooke – 11th great grandfather

· Hester Cooke (Mahieu) – 11th great grandmother

· Elizabeth Howland (Tilley) – 12th great grandmother

· John Howland, Sr. – 12th great grandfather

· Stephen Hopkins – 11th great grandfather

· Elizabeth Mary Hopkins (Fisher) – 11th great grandmother

· Giles Hopkins – 10th great grandfather

· Peter Browne – 12th great grandfather

Fabulous! Since we're on a Thomas Rogers roll, maybe do that first, then move on to the Brewster nightmare? The Hopkins are not in bad shape (at lest the last time I drove by).

BTW when I started tree cleanup around Mayflowers I was a 7th/8th cousin. Now I'm a 1st cousin + goobley gook to the Rogers, and a direct line by a marriage somewhere to John Alden. Never had a clue.

And again - now that we have Wikitext, we really need to make sure the overview / about me is appropriately sourced out. We just can't rely on the relationships alone to hold thru merges. There needs to be source data.

Private User - I have been using the "About Me" to put in sources and the most important data so those working on the tree can refer to it, even when the tree is temporarily messed up.

I am following the Thomas Rogers descendants project, it is looking good. Since I'm a direct descendant, I'll help when I have time.

Jeff - I have the genealogy of Stephen Hopkins still in my possession. I promised it to Sally, assuming I don't turn out to be a direct descendant. But I'll hold on to it for the time being so any questions, ask away.

Thanks, Hatte, for remembering me.. :-)

ok, Erica... will do.

I am still upset about the Rogers, to be honest. I am wondering -- did they put out a call throughout Plymouth Plantation, we have the best eggnog, come on over to our house and get yourself adopted in?

I mean, John is missing and there's a son Noah instead. HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?

Hi Hatte,
I can claim Stephen Hopkins as an ancestor, through my Witherell line. What is the genealogy that you have for him?
Best regards.

Erica & Hatte, you mentioned using the wiki as a place for adding sources and I can see doing this for relationships and other data, but it's still very helpful with merges and such if we use the sources section, which will identify fields as having a source during the merge process.

Hi Charles,
I have volume 6 Mayflower Families (Stephen Hopkins). It gives the first 5 generations and is published by The General Society of Mayflower Descendants. The way Amazon advertised it, I thought it was on the Mayflower families. Totally misleading.

Best,
Hatte

Private User - It seems like all the older generations suffer extraneous offspring. What the heck are people thinking when they merge with an early American with a full profile and add random children?

Post deleted by Private User on Dec 21, 2010 at 5:59 AM