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Comté de Flandre - Counts of Flanders - Groafschap Vloandern

Started by Private User on Thursday, February 11, 2010

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Private User
2/11/2010 at 12:07 PM

If you’re involved in this Flemish line somehow, here’s a thread to collect information and resources, and discuss problem areas if needed.

If you have nothing to do with these people, click ”Unfollow” – top of the page.

Main genealogical source:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#Top

The Counts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_Flanders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counts_of_Flanders_family_tree

Private User
2/11/2010 at 12:09 PM

House of Flanders I

Baldwin I ‘Iron Arm’ (r. 860s-879), married Judith and was granted lands and honours, which would evolve into the County of Flanders.
Boudewijn de IJzeren, Graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Boudewijn de IJzeren, Graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Baldwin II ‘the Bald’ (r. 879-918), son of Baldwin I and Judith
Boudewijn II de Kale, Graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Boudewijn II de Kale, Graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Arnulf I ‘the Great’ (r. 918-964), son of Baldwin II, joinly with:
Arnout I de Grote, Graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Arnout I de Grote, Graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Baldwin III (r. 958-962), son of Arnulf I
Boudewijn III, graaf van Vlaanderen

Boudewijn III, graaf van Vlaanderen

Arnulf II (r. 964-988), son of Baldwin III
Arnulf II de Jongere, graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Arnulf II de Jongere, graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Baldwin IV ‘the Bearded’ (r. 988-1037), son of Arnulf II
Baldwin IV Fairbeard, Count of Flanders

Baldwin IV Fairbeard, Count of Flanders

Baldwin V of Lille (r. 1037-1067), son of Baldwin IV
Baldwin V, Count of Flanders

Baldwin V, Count of Flanders

Baldwin VI (de Mons) ‘le Bon’ (r. 1067-1070), son of Baldwin V, Count of Hainaut
Baldwin VI, Count of Flanders and Hainault

Baldwin VI, Count of Flanders and Hainault

Arnulf III (r. 1070-1071), son of Baldwin VI, Count of Hainaut
Arnulf III van Vloandern

Arnulf III van Vloandern

Robert I the Frisian (r. 1071-1093), son of Baldwin VI
Robert I "de Fries", graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Robert I "de Fries", graaf van Vlaanderen (Count of Flanders)

Robert II (r. 1093-1111), son of Robert I
Robert II le Hiérosolymitain, comte de Flandre

Robert II le Hiérosolymitain, comte de Flandre

Baldwin VII Hapkin (r. 1111-1119), son of Robert II
Robert II le Hiérosolymitain, comte de Flandre

Robert II le Hiérosolymitain, comte de Flandre

Private User
2/11/2010 at 12:14 PM

GEOGRAPHY
The geography of the county of Flanders only partially overlaps present day Flanders in Belgium.

The land covered by the county of Flanders is spread out over:

Belgium:
two of the five Flemish provinces: West-Flanders and East-Flanders
part of the Flemish province Antwerp: the land of Bornem
part of the Walloon province Hainaut: Tournai and the region around Moeskroen (that belonged to West-Flanders until 1962)

France:
French Flanders (in the Nord departement)
the French westcorner: the region around Dunkirk, Bergues and Bailleul, an area where Dutch used to be the main language
Artois (in the Pas-de-Calais department): removed from Flanders in 1191 and created as independent county in 1237

Netherlands: Zeelandic Flanders, a region between Belgium and the Western Scheldt, in the southern part of the province of Zeeland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flanders_%28county%29

Private User
2/11/2010 at 12:15 PM

NAME FORMAT
We follow the ordinary ‘rule’ of using original language. Since we here have two, we try to incorporate both the French and the Dutch/Flemish versions (example using West-Flemish):

FIRST: Baudouin ‘le Pieux’
MIDDLE: Boudewyn
LAST: de Flandre
MAIDEN: van Vloandern

NICKNAMES: other languages and additional names

The English form should thus be put in the Nickname field only

The languages used in this area were old forms of Dutch/Flemish and French (not English), thus the names should be written in those languages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Flemish

Map of the Dutch and Flemish languages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Languages_Benelux.PNG

Private User
2/11/2010 at 2:45 PM

anne,
great information. i will look at it when i get some time. in a crunch right at the moment. many are in my lines. i have not tried to straighten out most of the trees that far back because of the inordinate numbers of duplicates & confusion. great work, thank-you. i will start checking what i have and make corrections if necessary.

Private User
11/16/2010 at 2:34 AM

Putting "van Vloandern" in the maiden names seems at odds with standard Geni naming conventions.

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