Comté de Flandre - Counts of Flanders - Groafschap Vloandern

Started by Private User on Thursday, February 11, 2010

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Private User
2/11/2010 at 12:07 PM

If you’re involved in this Flemish line somehow, here’s a thread to collect information and resources, and discuss problem areas if needed.

If you have nothing to do with these people, click ”Unfollow” – top of the page.

Main genealogical source:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#Top

The Counts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_Flanders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counts_of_Flanders_family_tree

Private User
2/11/2010 at 12:09 PM

House of Flanders I

Baldwin I ‘Iron Arm’ (r. 860s-879), married Judith and was granted lands and honours, which would evolve into the County of Flanders.
Boudewijn I "Iron-Arm", count of Flanders

Boudewijn I "Iron-Arm", count of Flanders

Baldwin II ‘the Bald’ (r. 879-918), son of Baldwin I and Judith
Boudewijn II "the Bald", count of Flanders

Boudewijn II "the Bald", count of Flanders

Arnulf I ‘the Great’ (r. 918-964), son of Baldwin II, joinly with:
Arnoul I the Great, count of Flanders

Arnoul I the Great, count of Flanders

Baldwin III (r. 958-962), son of Arnulf I
Boudewijn III, graaf van Vlaanderen

Boudewijn III, graaf van Vlaanderen

Arnulf II (r. 964-988), son of Baldwin III
Arnulf II the Young, count of Flanders

Arnulf II the Young, count of Flanders

Baldwin IV ‘the Bearded’ (r. 988-1037), son of Arnulf II
Count Baldwin IV of Flanders

Count Baldwin IV of Flanders

Baldwin V of Lille (r. 1037-1067), son of Baldwin IV
Baldwin V, count of Flanders

Baldwin V, count of Flanders

Baldwin VI (de Mons) ‘le Bon’ (r. 1067-1070), son of Baldwin V, Count of Hainaut
Baldwin VI, Count of Flanders and Hainault

Baldwin VI, Count of Flanders and Hainault

Arnulf III (r. 1070-1071), son of Baldwin VI, Count of Hainaut
Arnulf III de Ongelukkige van Vloandern

Arnulf III de Ongelukkige van Vloandern

Robert I the Frisian (r. 1071-1093), son of Baldwin VI
Robert I "de Fries", count of Flanders

Robert I "de Fries", count of Flanders

Robert II (r. 1093-1111), son of Robert I
Robert II le Hiérosolymitain, comte de Flandre

Robert II le Hiérosolymitain, comte de Flandre

Baldwin VII Hapkin (r. 1111-1119), son of Robert II
Robert II le Hiérosolymitain, comte de Flandre

Robert II le Hiérosolymitain, comte de Flandre

Private User
2/11/2010 at 12:14 PM

GEOGRAPHY
The geography of the county of Flanders only partially overlaps present day Flanders in Belgium.

The land covered by the county of Flanders is spread out over:

Belgium:
two of the five Flemish provinces: West-Flanders and East-Flanders
part of the Flemish province Antwerp: the land of Bornem
part of the Walloon province Hainaut: Tournai and the region around Moeskroen (that belonged to West-Flanders until 1962)

France:
French Flanders (in the Nord departement)
the French westcorner: the region around Dunkirk, Bergues and Bailleul, an area where Dutch used to be the main language
Artois (in the Pas-de-Calais department): removed from Flanders in 1191 and created as independent county in 1237

Netherlands: Zeelandic Flanders, a region between Belgium and the Western Scheldt, in the southern part of the province of Zeeland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flanders_%28county%29

Private User
2/11/2010 at 12:15 PM

NAME FORMAT
We follow the ordinary ‘rule’ of using original language. Since we here have two, we try to incorporate both the French and the Dutch/Flemish versions (example using West-Flemish):

FIRST: Baudouin ‘le Pieux’
MIDDLE: Boudewyn
LAST: de Flandre
MAIDEN: van Vloandern

NICKNAMES: other languages and additional names

The English form should thus be put in the Nickname field only

The languages used in this area were old forms of Dutch/Flemish and French (not English), thus the names should be written in those languages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Flemish

Map of the Dutch and Flemish languages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Languages_Benelux.PNG

Private User
2/11/2010 at 2:45 PM

anne,
great information. i will look at it when i get some time. in a crunch right at the moment. many are in my lines. i have not tried to straighten out most of the trees that far back because of the inordinate numbers of duplicates & confusion. great work, thank-you. i will start checking what i have and make corrections if necessary.

Private User
11/16/2010 at 2:34 AM

Putting "van Vloandern" in the maiden names seems at odds with standard Geni naming conventions.

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