Recent changes in Geni system

Started by Private User on Monday, April 5, 2010

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Private User
4/5/2010 at 3:14 PM

Dear Members
I would love to hear your opinion about the recent changes that started today.
I found some of them to be very annoying. Now in order to do something with my 4th great grandfather and beyond it's not enough to be in the same family group with that manager; although; he is my first cousin; in some of those cases; I also need to ask him to collaborate with me. When I've sent a request to collaborate on my 4th great grandfather profile it's said that I've sent a request to him; my dead 4th great grandfather.
Thanks for your listening
Ofir

4/5/2010 at 5:34 PM

@ Ofir...I have also found problems. Even though I collaborate with a distant cousin I find I have to ask separately now for each ancestor that I did not add even though they are connected to an ancestor I did add, I did not have this problem before.
Bill

Private User
4/5/2010 at 5:45 PM

Now Geni is asking permission first to merge from someone I am collaborating with.... arrgg!

Private User
4/5/2010 at 5:53 PM

Thanks Bill; and now I also need to send requests of collaboration to most of my family group members , just in order to continue with my work of helping them with their added profiles; that's also could mean another long wait in some cases and almost a complete stop to several "work in progress" sections of the tree. Very frustrating indeed !!!
another strange thing that is happening right now is that I am getting requests to merge profiles which are not mine (although I am able to merge them)

Private User
4/5/2010 at 5:58 PM

Margaret; is this merge related to historic profiles?; also what dates are involved in that specific merge? perhaps this merge falls in with the new definitions of privacy ?

4/5/2010 at 6:15 PM

I hope this is a temporary glitch.....I can't even see the complete profiles of some ancestors added by other family to ancestors I originally added let alone add new information to their profiles. These are long dead ancestors from the 1700's.

4/5/2010 at 6:16 PM

And I thought it was just me.
Yes I tried to merge a great ...grand father request was for hi (the dead g...father)

Better yet;
I am my own 1st cousin, I am the manager of both profiles, sent a request to merge to myself, mesage didn't get sent by the system, but if I try to send a message to my 1st cousin, the system points out that I can't email myself.
I guess my children are thier own 2d cousins etc
I'm also being given merge issues (75 or so) that it tells me to resolve but then tells me that I'm not allowed to change that part of the tree.
I love this fun ! (LOL)

Private User
4/5/2010 at 6:25 PM

It really fits the maxim, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", doesn't it, guys? I'm having the same problems with merges, Marvin...given merge issues to resolve and then being told that I'm not allowed to change that part of the tree. Sigh...!! Seconds of fun!! :)

4/5/2010 at 8:36 PM

Hi, Communal trees have this problem. I haven't added anything to Geni for a while because I have no new information. I have worked on Geni in the past, and on Ancestry.com more recently, because they have more search resources. I also have a Family Tree Maker which helps me see how people in my tree are connected. I think we all occasionally make mistakes when we are tired, misspellings, dates with the numbers switched around, whatever. If you are very concerned about any mistakes that might get in your tree, you could go "private" (I'm actually not sure you can do this in Geni) so only you have access to your own tree. I kind of like the public access myself because I like interacting with new people and they often have much good to add to the trees, or trees. I am doing my own and my husband's separately .
I don't know what to do with merges on Geni. Sometimes I am sure they are okay to be merged, and sometimes if there are tiny differences, i have no idea. I'm hoping someone who knows the particulars to do the merges I am not sure of.
Tina

Private User
4/5/2010 at 11:59 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong about it but; I think that with the new system of merging historical profiles there could still be a problem when/if people get a request to merge, doesn't pay attention to it too much and just merge it anyhow, but the merge is actually wrong to begin with.

4/6/2010 at 4:26 PM

@Ofir
No doubt in my mind we must be more carefull when we sent a request to a collaborator instead of the actually manager

Private User
4/6/2010 at 5:24 PM

I'm curious if anyone has actually contacted Geni through the Help function to discuss this problem. What was their reply? thanks, Dennis

Private User
4/10/2010 at 12:36 PM

Ohhh, I see what is going on with why I'm getting so many new emails. When someone wants to merge a profile or finish a merge with someone they aren't collaborating with, it will give them a drop down list of all the people that other person is collaborating with, thus allowing for a merge to finish! That's AWESOME...

4/12/2010 at 2:28 AM

I got into an impossible tangle through someone giving me access to their tree by entering my name randomly as one of their relatives, as a result of which their whole family appeared on my tree, with me (a man) married to another man whom I'm not even related to, and none of this could be removed. I emailed Geni, and they kindly deleted the whole spurious branch.

4/12/2010 at 9:08 AM

I, for one, am very annoyed that I can no longer merge deceased profiles managed by family group members that I don't collaborate with. I have a whole bunch of inactive managers in my family group. They are not going to respond to a collaboration request, so now my having them in my family group is absolutely worthless.

4/12/2010 at 9:20 AM

Erin,

You might be able to send them to someone else.

Kevin

Private User
4/12/2010 at 2:21 PM

I have the same problem, Erin. It's so irritating - not to mention, hugely frustrating.

4/13/2010 at 7:59 AM

Geni should institute a ranking system; people who are highly active and people who provide specifics and are careful in the way they spell things and are mindful of duplicating profiles, should be authorized with administrative privileges to perform merges without requiring us to request permission from people who are mostly inactive, inept, or paranoid.

Private User
4/13/2010 at 9:03 AM

@Jonathan: See the proposal for "Curators" (or Moderators): http://forum.geni.com/topic.php?id=58161

This could well be based on a point system of some sort.

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