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Private User
8/11/2010 в 9:53 до полудня
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example.
How come when I click on her husbands name from her link do I get the listing below which is a different line from the one I am following that shows her to be a direct great great (multiple x) grandparent? I expect it to say, Louis is my great great (multiple x) grandfather, not "great uncle's grandmother's husband" Louis 'le Pieux' (778-840), King of the Franks should show up as my 38th great grandfather and by extension Charlemagne as my 39th. It all gets screwed up from here.
OK. Now, the line I want to follow since Francoise Savoie's parentage is disputed and there is little or no controversy about this one is: Judith von Bayern-Altdorf is your 38th great grandmother. (wife of Louis "le Pieux")
This happens throughout the tree and is very frustrating and makes for historical nightmares. |
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Private User
8/11/2010 в 10:19 до полудня
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Oh boy. Louis the Pious daughter Gisela is my 35th great grandmother in this line but each time I click her fathers name I get another spastic relationship. Gisèle of the West Franks, Marquise consort de Frioul Gisela, daughter of Louis is your 35th great grandmother.
SHOW MULTIPLE ancestors xxxxx Eleanor of England, Reina de Castilla her mother→
DOESN'T LOGIC dictate that Louis is then 36th GGF by this line?
I know..noone is reading this.... |
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8/11/2010 в 11:09 до полудня
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These relationship descriptions are not completely re-generated each time you view a profile. This is why you come across a non-direct relationship link now and again.
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Private User
8/11/2010 в 1:15 после полудня
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Jonathan is correct. Also the database is completely re-indexed several times a week, which may then show a different path after. And just to confuse it further, there is mega- amounts of merging activity going on (a good thing) -- which means that geni servers have to catch up to the busy bees cleaning up the duplicates. Keep at it, worker bees! |
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Private User
10/11/2010 в 8:53 до полудня
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The flip side to all of this is that all my "favorites" of particular people I am following in the NON-Francois Savoie (post 9th great grandfather) connections are apparently butchered now. I have no idea what happened to the line that I listed above as:
etc..etc. for some reason, all my relationships are jacked now and only the Francois Savoie "alleged" ancestors show up. That's great but I still have no faith in that line, however exciting the ties. I'll stick with facts but now my facts are jacked. |
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Private User
10/11/2010 в 10:30 до полудня
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I see now with a little investigation how the line got changed again.
Per the records cited, her father is not a Jean Claude Landry as previously indicated but rather Étienne Landry and Catherine Goulet as mother. This is a game changer for sure if this relation is correct, and on first pass appears to be a major historical fix.
The changes seem to have been made recently since Nov. 6th. Now I know why it defaults back to the lines after Francois Savoie (I'll just fake that it is true now) regarding the royal ties. Oh well. |
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Private User
10/11/2010 в 5:34 после полудня
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I'm probably the one that changed the Landry Bourg line. I was trying to correct it. Rene l'Aîné Landry 1618 (Antoinette's brother) is often confused here with René le Jeune Landry 1634 (son of Jean Claude Landry - though that is also questioned). My mother is a Landry and Rene l'Aîné is my 10th great grandfather (Étienne Landry my 11th). While doing this, I corrected all the siblings and children. Claude Landry is another one that is often confused (one the son of Rene l'Aîné and the other the son of René le Jeune) and both boys were born in the same year, same place. I'll try to add some additional sourcing. I pasted a good mess of material in the Rene profiles. |
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Private User
18/11/2010 в 7:37 до полудня
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Thanks Jeff! I just read this a week after you posted it. It made a significant difference in alleged family tree. Good for historical accuracy, bad for my wannabe royalty through this line. LOL. Now I have struck out on both major lines to royalty assertion. LOL.
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21/1/2011 в 6:12 после полудня
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21/1/2011 в 6:17 после полудня
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Private User
22/1/2011 в 12:55 после полудня
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Renee. Check the line of descent and make sure whether it says it is going through any relation between Francois Savoie and any alleged parents.
On the other hand, you may have discovered lines through your other parent perhaps? or even another connection through same parent. I did on both to Charlemagne. 29th and 30th ggf respectively. |
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Private User
22/1/2011 в 1:04 после полудня
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I think there were some further clarifications on the lines from Antonette back through the Landry De La Tours which opened the profiles back up AND gave a glimmer of hope back to those who have faith in some royal ties. LOL. like me. If my father's line isn't rightly proven, then at last my mom's is. I like the idea of both. |
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22/8/2011 в 10:41 после полудня
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Greg; check the other discussion regarding Francois Savoie-I put a bit up about my Saint Etienne De La Tour line (Down through d'Entremont to Amirault to Boudreau)
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Private User
23/8/2011 в 6:19 до полудня
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Yep Renee. The upside to Geni is you find you are related to more than just your immediate familial circle. Those of us who are blessed with a rich ancestry beyond "Great Great Grandpappy fought in the Civil War..." as in the movers and shakers of multiple societies (kings, queens, dukes, earls, barons, counts, warrior elite, scholar, poet, philosopher, explorer, and high level cleric or founder of a religion-not necessarily in that order) are screwed if we are not GENI PRO. If you have not already tapped into your ancestry and are just starting out, your options are limited and no changes or modifications without some help from a pro. The removal of merge functions for non-Pros is a negative. Yes, there were people that abused it and those that came on here to screw up people's trees but those of us who are responsible to history (good and bad in our families) were doing it right. The turf wars over 'don't touch my family' caused this. The problem is, they are MY family and YOUR family too, especially historical notables. arrggh. Sorry. Off my Soap Box now.
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