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Why God died?

Started by Iliya on Tuesday, January 11, 2011

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1/11/2011 at 7:18 AM

subject :)

in this tree God have black line.

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1/11/2011 at 8:22 AM

Jesus was born from a mortal mother and an Immortal Father, so He could lay down his Life and win over death. Because of his immortal qualities no man could ever have killed him, and because of his mortal qualities he could lay down his life, for the purpose of break the chains of death.
He was the first resurrected being, and after Him all mankind has that gift. After his resurrection many graves were emptied and thus many just men/women were lifted up unto heaven.

1/11/2011 at 11:37 AM

I'm not Christian. But My question about Aadam's and Eva's "father" in tree of Biblion's persons. God-father as I now in Christianity so much the Islam and Judaism live!

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1/11/2011 at 2:15 PM

That is ok Iliya,
Jesus is the only Begotten of Heavenly Father in the flesh. --They ---are Eternal.
We lived in their presence, before we came to this Earth
Jesus, before the world was, was known in the scriptures as the Word.
In Abraham and Moses times was known as Jeshua in Hebrew "I Am".
Nowadays, we adopted the equivalent Greek name Jesus to refer to Him. I know he is the Christ meaning the Messiah, meaning the "Anointed One".
No one is able to convince me of that, I had to find that for myself.
Now, I think I could try to answer better your main question:
How is that possible, and why did God died?
There is God the Father, The Son (Jesus) and the Holy Ghost. They Are all part of the Godhead. The Holy Ghost is the only one who didn't not receive a body yet, like all of us did.
The Son was the only One who descended to Earth to gain a body, in order to save us from death, given to Adam and Eve after the Fall.
Not only He passed from life to death, but obtained for us the Resurrection. ---An eternal body....that is a given for all of us, now.
Moreover, he suffered the Atonement in the Garden of Gethsemane, where he bled from every pore His blood for our sins of generations past, present, and future, thus giving a chance, if we work for it--Eternal Life---an eternal presence with Heavenly Father.
Please, I am not trying to convince you of anything, or ask you to believe anything, just your understanding. I hope I kept it simple, not complicated.

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1/11/2011 at 2:57 PM

You are right Iliya,
I just saw what the makers of this Biblical Tree did:
http://bit.ly/dPTrit
Now, I understand better your question of the black line on Adam's lineage.
They make a confusion like many Christian Churches do between God the Father- Elohim and God the Son- Jesus, being one and the same.
Unfortunately, there is much division and confusion out there.
I hope i gave a clear explanation of what I believe is true.
I worship Father in the name of the Son Jesus, and he Holy Ghost will answer me, like He can answer anyone who asks with a sincere heart.

Why would one call the father and the son the same person?
Most sons look like their fathers, and the confusion started from a Jesus' statement, when asked by his disciples: how does the Father in heaven looks like?

1/14/2011 at 2:23 AM

Ok, I realized that you do not build a tree :)
Maybe I do not quite understand the subtleties of Christianity, the more they are different for different branches.
But to build a tree I still seems logical to divide Alohim and Jesus, who has body. Formally Jesus son of Joseph a descendant of David and Abraham, and of course Adam. And Jesus as a man has a birthday and the day of death and even the day of interment

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1/14/2011 at 8:12 AM

Correct Iliya,
Jesus in his mortal life had all those dates.
What most seem to forget is the Resurrection, and thus He lives again.
To many people I should ask: How can you think of a dead God?
Unfortunately, when I ask that question, I get many different answers.

This tree should stop at Adam and Eve, but that is only my opinion.
You brought up a very interesting topic. Thank you.

1/16/2011 at 3:20 AM

Iliya,
the reason that God Almighty / אבינו שבשמים / الله .'s profile is marked as "deceased", is mostly technical. This just makes makes merging it easier. We really shouldn't even have this profile in the tree, but so many copies of this tree do, that it would be pointless to remove it.

Richard,
please do not preach here. If you read the project description it clearly says "It is precisely because this tree is the basis for many different faiths, that we try and keep religious differences and politics OUT of it.". So many Geni users would find your comments wrong and offensive.

Thank you for being considerate.

Shmuel-Aharon Kam,
Project Manager

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1/17/2011 at 10:25 AM

Shmuel,
Thank you for your clarification.
My apologies to those who I may have offended.
In a way, I wish you have intervened earlier.
I hope you may find a way to eliminate that technicality one day.
I enjoyed reading your profile very much.
My sincere thanks
Richard

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