Old Low Greman Language

Scan the document (or ask a copy center to do that for you) and upload the image somewhere like photbucket.com and post the link to it here.

Trying to type old German on an American Keyboard wouldn't work. An Image is better.

If it is for a public profile, post it to the profile as a pic and we can try to make sense of it. Some of the old dialects can be hard. If you mean Rhine Valley, that's were my wife is from, she may understand the dialect.

PS will need the link to the profile

Post it as a Geni document because it makes it possible to view it in full resolution, and make sure that you have flagged the document as public, but of course you can add a document to the profile as well and post a link to the profile if it is for a specific profile.

I will have to get the document out of my book and get it copied, if that will be easier. But it is easy to type the words...Its link is to Jahraus lineage...Bjorn if you look at my genealogy starting with "Yearout" you will see where one "Karl Jharus" changed his name to Charles J. Yearout when he came to America. I have his family farther back about three gegerations. I think some came from north eastern Germany orinally.

Ok, I looked something up on where they were from Marv, they came from the Grand Dutchy of Baden, in what is now part of Baden-Wurtenburg. The actual place of orgin is a place called Karlsrule, but are found residing in Ilbeshiem, in the precient of Landaeu. This in in what they call the Rhine Valley, near Austria. But in another paper I have it states that the name Jahraus can be traced back to the 5th century in the Baltic Sea area, when Germany was known as Prussia, and then Pomerania where they played a great part in helping the growth of Prussia.. Then in the middle ages, the surname Jahraus appears in Mecklenburg, where it contributed greatly to an emerging nation. Now you can see why I am at witts end trying to decipher this paper, the one who read it for me said something to the effect that my grandfather was sorry for something, but couldn't say what.

Just a quick note to say you can add me to the list of people willing to help you decipher it if you can get it up on-line. I hope we can help you out!

Thank you, seems like I have had this thing forever and never thought of asking for help....geeeeeees!

I've been to those Areas. Beutifull country. And I've beem in Karlsruhe Palace (German: Karlsruher Schloss)

I had to look up the Grand Duchy of Baden (was created in 1806 after the fall of the Holy Roman Empire)

I was going to compare it with your public profiles but I see that you don't have and birth/death dates in your public profiles.

There are many letters in the German Alphabet that are not on an American keyboard. I don't know how long it is but if you wanted to try to type it, I can look. If an umlaut or ß pop up, we may be able to figure it out.

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You turn up in odd places. Thanks for joining.

I will dig up whay I have and also a paper that I wrote, i did not go into alot of detail after my 4th great gradfathers kids, just followed down from his son, and so forth to me, I did not put in all of the children, as it was meant for one of my sons, at he time when he was doing a project at school. I need to go back and put in all of the names and who each amrried, as I have a family history on each written up. There is alot of german names in this side of the family.

I will try and put them both on line for you to see, then maybe this will help.

The name Karlsruhe got my attention. I think my German lineage comes from that area. The family name is Herbst, and 4 brothers immigrated in c.1750 to Berks County, Pennsylvania. Can anyone guide me to records for this area of Germany that are in English? Any hints appreciated. Mary

Marv: I'll take it as a compliment. ;)

Ok, I will put this part on first:

The history of the surname can be traced back to the Baltic Region of Pomerania in the ancient German state of Prussia. During the 5th century Pomererania was settled by a Slavic tribe known as Pommern, meaning "by the sea." During the reign of The Holy Roman Empor Charlemagne, the region be came known as Pomerania. The Pommern tribe was introduced to Christianity by Bishop von Bamberg, and was soon followed by Pomerania's incorporation into the German state of Prussia. Early in the middle ages the surname appearsin Mecklenburg,where the name contributed greatly to an emerging nation. Over time the Prussion and ponneeranian name branchedinto other houses, where it played important rolls in social and politatical affairs. Notable during this time was the family surname Jahraus of Macklenburg. The family also moved to other German statesin persue of new interests, military, political. religious service, and were Counts, Barrons, Knights, and Chevaliers. There are several name varations Jahraus surname including: Jarhaus, Janke,Jahn, and von-der-Jahnd'Eberstadt. Where Jahraus means "Yearout", Jarhous referrs "to a house where one resides". Here is the genealogy my cousin gave me.

-------Jahraus b. 1640 Pfaltz, Palentate, Germany wife unknown
1) Hans Gurge B 1668 Ilbelshiem
2) NICHOLAS B. 1672 Wiferdingen Baden M. Anna Katrina
1) HANS JURG
2) Jacob

HANS JURG B 1699 BADEN, D 1750 BADEN
m ANNA MARIA SHE B 1700 BADEN
1) Johan Jurge b 1738 13 Dec Baden
2) KARL JAMES (CHARLES J. YEAROUT) B 1738
Karlsrule, Germany, D.Maryville,TN married Mary
Mary Eary, b, in Virginia.

RIED oK kARL jAHRAUS WAS MY 4TH GREAT GRAND FATHER DOES THIS INFORMATION HELP?

Sorry I messed up on spelling it is late here, and I have been investidating all day....The names in Capitals are my Grand parents.

Someone that had a book on Genealogy in Baden was following me. I hope he sees this message (I can't remember who it was)

@Martha, the surname of Anna Maria must be copied wrong.

Why?

I'm sure he means that the surname "She" is most likely not correct.

German names normally mean something, She is not a German name (to the best of my knowledge)

Plus the fact that SH doesn't exist in German.

Addendum Jahraus Famlien Deutschland
by Kurt Jahraus, Grunwald b. Munchen, Von-Ranke Strasse 2,
COAT OF ARMS JAHRAUS FAMILY IN GERMANY

" Maine Kontaka au irgendewelchen Fremilienangeborigen sind leider absolut unbedeutsnd. Was mich freut und was ich auch sehr schatze, ist unser Familien-Wappen, des zuch-leider ohne Jahreszahl-in der Burger'schen Samnlung enthaltan ist mit der Verzerk:' Die Familie Jahraus ist ein altes badisches Burgergeschlecht und stamnt aus Linkenheim b. Karlsrule. Ein Gruppa bat aich auch in Kehl am Rhein eingeburgert.' Wrappen: In Gold ein Stundenglas, Helmkleinod, ein schwartzer Flugel auf Rollender, Goldner ein Stundenglas, Helmkleinod, ein schwartzer Flugel auf Rollender, Goldner ein Kugel, decken schwartz/Gold."

Records believed to be in Frohlig, 6723 Lustadt/Pfalz, Kirchstrabe 101. Arbeitzgerndnschuft, 67 Luchwigshafen, Rottatr.17.

This is the paper I have....

Grampa couldnt spell very well.

I'm going to see if I can find a Coat of Arms (family Crest that fits this.

The spelling is pretty bad (either misspelled old spelling or other) so I'm just guessing at some of the words untill my wife can look at it.

from everthing you said it would seem that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wappen_Deutsches_Reich_-_Grossher...

should be the base for you family crest but it doesn't seem to fit, too much dif between the two

Here's the ref for others

http://www.hot.ee/wappenrolle/

It's very misspelled, with many missing letters. To me they look more like mistranscriptions. I think it would benefit everyone if you could scan it in.

Also btw, it's a misnomer to call this Low German aka Plattdeutsch. My mother and uncles speaks Plattdeutsch which is spoken in Northern Germany. In Baden they speak Alemannic German which is a dialect of Upper German but his however is just plain (High) German.