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Albert Andriessen Bradt, 'de Noorman'

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Fredrikstad, Fredrikstad, Ostfold, Norway
Death: Died in Rensselaerswyck, Albany , New York
Place of Burial: Rensselaerswyck, Albany, New York, United States
Immediate Family:

Son of Andries Arentse Bradt and Aeffie (Eva) Kinetis
Husband of Annetjie Barentse Van Rotmers; Geertruy (Coeymans) Bradt and Pietertje (Jans) Bradt
Father of Eva Albertse Swartwout; Barent Albertse Bradt; Storm Albertse Bradt; Engeltje (Bradt) Slingerland; Gisseltie (Bradt) VanEecelan-Willemsz and 4 others
Brother of Arent A. Bradt, 'de Noorman'

Occupation: Proprietor, Imigrant in 1620/owned mill and farm, Logger, Sailorlater Tobacco Farmer And Fur Trader
Managed by: Robert Alan Vargo
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About Albert Andriessen Bradt

Norway's most competent genealogist Tore Vigerust says that there is no evidence that the Andries Bradt had anything to do with Norway:

Another important discussion thread about Andries Bratt who was Dutch/German:

http://da2.uib.no/cgi-win/WebDebatt.exe?slag=listinnlegg&debatt=brukar&temanr=18488&sok=Andries+Bratt&nr=2&antinnlegg=11&startnr=&antall=&spraak=#anker

The participants are leading genealogists.

They say that Andries Bradt who has thousands of descendants in the US is extremely unlikely to have any connection to Norway and the Norwegian Bratt-families.

The idea of a connection comes from this book: Scandinavian immigrants in New York 1630-1671 by John O. Evjen published 1916 - it seems to be pure guesswork ... The one reference to FamilySearch is (rightly) mocked as silly - anyone can post anything there and it should never be used as a source, only as ideas of where to search further.

Tore Hermundsson Vigerust, Oslo gamleby, 7.4.2009 00:19 (9) "De som hevder at Albert og Arent kom fra Fredrikstad / Norge har bevisbyrden. For min del vil jeg mene at når en ung mann gifter seg i byen Stade og oppgir å komme fra Fridrichstadt, skal byen identifiseres med den av samme navn som ligger litt nord for Stade. I samme område, så og si."

Translated: "Those who claim that Albert and Arents came from Fredreikstad in Norway must prove this (they have the burden of proof). In my opinion when a young man gets married in the town Stade (in Holland) and says he's form Fridrichstadt, then the city (of his birth) should be identified with the city just north of Stade. In the same area, so to speak."

Albert Andriessen Bradt was born Fredrikstad, Østfold county, Norway. He moved to Amsterdam, Netherlands at a time when commerce between Norwegian and the Dutch merchants was well established.[1] In 1636, a group set off for New Netherlands arriving at New Amsterdam on March 4, 1637. Their destination was Rensselaerswyck. Bradt worked at a sawmill and a tobacco plantation. Bradt rented a sawmill on the Normans Kill at Lower Hollow from the patroon.[2] In the early records he is often called Albert the Norman. His location became known locally as the Norwegian’s Creek. The Dutch version was Noormans kil. Today it is known as Normans Kill, a stream that winds across south-central Albany County, New York. It empties into the Hudson River after flowing around the west side of Castle Island.[3]

[1] Karel Hansen Toll (Andreas Nilsen Rygg. Norwegian-American Historical Association. Volume XIV: Page 244)

[2] Albany County Timeline (Albany County, New York)

[3] Colonial Albany Social History Project (Stefan Bielinski, Project Director)

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THE NAME BRANDT WAS ADDED IN 1607 AND EVENTUALLY SPELLED AS BROTT

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Albert was a sailor, tobacco planter and a miller. He was a man of uncertain temper such that his third wife gained a separation due to "strife and difference".

Also: Albert De Noorman

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  • 'The Lansing family. A genealogy of the descendants of Gerritt Frederickse Lansing who came to America from Hasselt, province of Overijssell, Holland, 1640. Eight generations
  • http://www.archive.org/details/lansingfamilygen00muns
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/lansingfamilygen00muns#page/n20/mode/1up
  • 1. Gerrit Frederickse1 Lansing, son of Frederick Lansing, married Elizabeth Hendrickse.
    • 7. Hilletje Lansing, married Storm, son of 'Albert Andriese Brant Van der Zee'.
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  • 'Genealogical notes of New York and New England families
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/genealogicalnote00talc#page/115/mode/1up
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  • Hilletje, daughter of (I) Gerrit Frederick Lansing, was probably born in Hassel ; married Storm Van der Zee, son of 'Albert Andriese Bradt, " the Norman," and Annetie Barentse van Rotmer', and had . . . .
  • 'The tradition is that one of Bradt's children was born on shipboard, on the passage out, in the midst of a heavy storm, in consequence of which he was called " Storm Van der Zee."
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-------------------- Albert Andriess Bradt de Norman (1607c.-1686) and Arent Andriesse Bradt, brothers, first emigrated as early as 1630, and were among the early settlers at Rensselaerswyck. They came from Fredrikstad, a town at the mouth of the Glommen, the largest river in Norway. Albert Andriess Bradt, known as "de Noorman," was a land owner and tobacco farmer at Bushwick, New York, 13 August 1630. He established himself a few miles south of Albany on a stream, "Norman's Kil," where he built a mill. He married first Annetje Barents von Rolmers (also called Annitje Alberts). They had children: Barent; Eva Bradt, married first, 1647, to Anthony de Hooges, and m. second, 1657, to Roeloff Swartwout; Storm (1636-c.1679) m. Hilletje Lansinck; Engeltje married Teunis Slingerlan of Onisquathaw; Gisseltje married Jan van Etten; Andries; Jan; and Dirck. -------------------- Albert came to the US with the Dutch explorer Van Rensselaer to grow tobacco. He eventually became a logger and has a tributary to the Hudson river named after him: the Normanskill-runs under the NY State Thruway near the Thruway Authority. He was of Norwegian decent. He was one of 25 people who founded Rensselaer County NY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Andriessen_Bradt -------------------- HISTORY: “Contributions for the Gen of the First Settlers of the Ancient Co of Albany, 1630-1800” by Prof Jonathan Pearson, GPC 1978 lists families of Albert and Arent BRATT and many descendants P-24. Married “de Norman” in Oudekirk ODR Church in Beverwyck in 1630. From him Norman's Kill gets its name. Albert Andriese Braat “de Norman,” who was in Beverwyck in 1630. From him Norman's Kill gets it's name. Eva von Rotmer was the first wife of Braat and from these two are descended many of the Hornbecks in America. In Jonathan Pearson's “Genealogies of the First Settlers of Albany.” VanDer Zee, Storm, son of Albert Andries Bratt “de Norman” came to Rensselaerswyck in 1630. The tradition is that one of Bratt's children was born on shipboard on the passage out in the midst of a heavy storm, in consequence of which, he was called Storm Vanderzee. (“O'Callaghan's Hist. N. N.”) That Van Der Zee was an alias for Bratt in early times is certain; in an old deed Storm's son Wouter is called “Wouter Storm Bratt, alias Wouter Van Der Zee.” Storm Van Der Zee was a trader, and in 1661 was complained of for smuggling in New Amsterdam. He married Hilletje, dau. of Gerrit Lansing, and had at least two sons who lived to maturity ... Albert and Wouter. The Swartwout Chronicles 1338-1899 and The Ketelhuyn Chronicles 1451-1899, Chapter III, Roeloff, Swartwout, Schout of Esopus, 1634-1715, Barents Bratt, 1 Her father, known as the Norman (de Noorman), settled in Rensselaerswijck in 1630, and later held a mill-privilege on the creek flowing into the Hudson, about two miles south of Beverwijck, from whom the stream derived it's name, the Norman's Kill.

Sailed from Texel Holland 8 Oct 1636 and arrived in New Amsterdam, Ny 4 Mar 1637. His home was in Fredrickstad, Norway.

In August 1636, Bradt entered into an agreement with Pieter Cornelisz and Claes Jansz to build a mill in the colony. So, after his arrival in the colony, he left Pieter Cornelisz and established himself as a tobacco planter. His wife Annetje Barents died before 5 June 1662 and left Bradt with 8 children. He remarried 7 June 1686 to Geertruy Pietersz Vosburgh. _____________________________________________________________

SOURCE: “The Peters Family” URL: http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=speters&id=I2849

IGI: Source Richard W. Price 11/13/91

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Albert Andriessen Bradt's Timeline

1607
August 26, 1607
Fredrikstad, Fredrikstad, Ostfold, Norway
1632
January 9, 1632
Age 24
Reusel-De Mierden, North Brabant, The Netherlands
April 11, 1632
Age 24
Oude Kerk Dutch, Amsterdam, Holland
1634
October 22, 1634
Age 27
Amsterdam, North Holland, The Netherlands
1636
March 4, 1636
Age 28
October 8, 1636
Age 29
Ship Rensselaerswyck, Netherlands
November 2, 1636
Age 29
At Sea, , Atlantic Ocean, Coming To America, ,
1636
Age 28
Amsterdam, Netherlands
1637
January 11, 1637
Age 29
Albany, Albany, New York, USA
March 4, 1637
Age 29
Ship Rensselaerswyck, New Amsterdam, New Netherland, USA