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Nicknames: "Andrew Alexander", "Alexander (Of Menstrie) Alexander"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Menstrie, Logie Clakmannshire, Sterling, Scotland
Death: Died in Menstrie, Logie Clakmannshire, Sterling, Scotland
Occupation: Baron of Menstrie
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About Alexander (Andrew) Alexander, of Menstrie

Note from CLE -Very misty information about correct Sires and Dames from here back in time. Looking for sources to make correct

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  1. A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire" by Sir Bernard Burke, published 1887. Page 3. "Alexander Alexander, of Menstrie, living 1529, m. Elizabeth Douglas, of Lockleven, and d. 1545. He was the great grandfather of Sir William Alexander, of Menstrie (son of Alexander Alexander of Menstrie, and grandson of Andrew Alexander, also of Menstrie), who was a celebrated poet ...."
  2. Memorials of the Earl of Sterling and of the house of Alexander. By the Rev. Charles Rogers, LL.D. Published 1877 by W. Paterson in Edinburgh. Page 8. "Alexander Alexander married Elizabeth ... Douglas, by whom he had two sons, Andrew and William, and two daughters, Marion and Isabel."
  3. Memorials of the Earl of Sterling and of the house of Alexander. By the Rev. Charles Rogers, LL.D.  Published 1877 by W. Paterson in Edinburgh.  Page 25. "Alexander Alexander, only son of William Alexander of Menstry, died on the 10th Feb 1580."
  4. Memorials of the Earl of Sterling and of the house of Alexander. Published 1877 by W. Paterson in Edinburgh . Page 29. "Alexander Alexander by his marrage about year 1567 with Marion daughter of Allan Couttie has a son William and two daughters Janet and Christian. Janet married Walter Cowan merchant-burgess of Stirling. On the 8th of Oct 1590 was baptized Andro Allan Cowan thier son. Another son named Antonie Cowan was baptized on the 20 Sept 1591 (Stirling Baptismal Regster),. Christian, the younger daughtr married Walter Neish of Dubbiehead, Stirling. She died 1608, will dated 15 March 1618. .... "

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Familysearch takes this all the way back to Robert Bruce:

Eochaid: b. ca 675 A.D. Scotland. 1st regional ruler.

Eochaid: b. ca 700 ?

Eochaid: b. ca 725 ?

Eochaid: b. ca 750 ?. "The Venomous", m. Heiress of the Picts.

Alpin: b. ca 775, d. 837

Kenneth MacAlpin: b. ca 800 - k. 860 in battle to unite Picts & Scots.

Constantine I: b. ca 830, ruled 862 - k. 877 in battle.

Donald II: b. ca 860, ruled 889 - k. 900 in battle.

Malcolm I: b. ca 900, ruled 943 - k. 954 in battle.

Kenneth II: b. ca 930, ruled 991 - mur. 995.

Malcolm II: b. ca 960, ruled 1005 - d. 1034

Bethoc: m. Crinan, k. 1045 in battle, Abbot of Dunkeld.

Duncan I: ruler 1034 - k. 1040, m. Sybil. A cousin of Siward, Earl of N. Umberland

Malcolm III: Ceanmore. Ruled 1058 - k. 1093, m. 1) . . . , m. 2) St. Margaret

David I: Ruled 1124 - d. 1153, Earl of Huntingdon, m 2) Maud, dtr. of Waltheof.

Henry: 1100's ? - 1152. Earl of Huntingdon & N. Umberland, m. Ada (Wm de) Warene

David: 1150 ? - 1219. Earl of Hunt'don, m. Maud (Hugh III) Chester

Isabella: 1200 ? - 1251, m. Robert de Bruce, d. ca 1245. Lord of Annandale

Robert Bruce: 1220's ? - 1295. The Competitor, m. Isabel d. 1254 (Gilbert) de Clare.

Robert Bruce: 1250 ? - 1304, m. 2) Marjorie (Neil) Earl of Carrick

King Robert (Bruce) I: English rebel; led battles & won independence for Scotland; b. 1274, ruled 1306 - 1329. 1st full fledged King. m. 1) Isabel, dtr. of Donald, III Earl of Mar. Bruce had several children w/o wedlock. m 2) Eliz. (Rich'd) de Burgh & had by her 5 sons, 1 dtr.

Lady Marjorie: 12{9}0's ? - 1316, m. Walter the Steward VI High Steward d. 1316 {arrow indicating she was dtr. of King Robert I & his 1) wife Isabel}

King Robert II: b. 1315 ?. Ruled 1371 - 90; m. Eliz. (Sir Adam) Mure/Muir d. 1355.

{2 children -- see 24. Lady Margaret & Catherine Stewart}

Lady Margaret: b. 1340's, m. Lord John Dunter, Lord of the Isles, son of Angus, gr. son of Angus, gg son of Somerled, 1st Lord of the Isles. Catherine Stewart: m. David Lindsay, Earl of Crawford (ref. 8) & had

Alexander 3rd son: b. 1370's ? (ref. 8) Lady Marjery Lindsay: m. Sir Wm. Douglas of Lockleven

Alexander 2nd son: b. 1400's ? (ref. 8) Sir H'y {Henry} Douglas: m. Lady Eliz. Erskine

Lord Thomas Al'xd'r {Alexander}: b. 1420's ?, of Loc{h}aber {&} Menstrie, founded House of Alexander Rob't Douglas: m. Mgt {Margaret} Balfour

Andrew Alexander: b. 1445 ?, m. Cath. Grahame Lord Thos. Douglas: m. Lady Eliz. Boyd, dtr. of Archib. Boyd & gr. dtr. of Ld {Lord} Rob't Boyd, Regent of Scotland 1460's

Alexander Alexander: (Bro. Angus), b. 1465 ?, m. {29} Elizabeth Douglas, Lady.

Andrew Alexander: b. 1485 ?, m. ?, was in Menstrie in 1544.

Alexander Alexander: b. 1505 ?, d. {1539 ?}, m. Elizabeth Forbes.

   {2 children:  see 32. William Alexander & James Alexander} 

or this:

THE ALEXANDER FAMILY.

This family came to Virginia from County Donegal, Ireland.

Rev. James Alexander was pastor of the Raphoe Presbyterian church, 1678-1704. (Note: I no longer believe that this was the father of the 7 brothers) Archibald AlexanDer was an Elder in the Taboyn (now Monreagh) church about the same time.

The Alexander genealogy is given in Roger's Memorials of the Earl of Sterling and the House of Alexander, and Chart by Francis Thomas Anderson Junkin, LL. D., Chicago, from which the following is taken:

A Norse settlement was early established in Arran and Bute and other islands in the West of Scotland under the Viking Conn Chead Chath of the Hundred Battles.

His descendant, Viking Somerled, about 1150, exercised powerful authority in the Western Isles, disputing the sovereignty of Scotland with David I.

In 1164 he entered the Firth of Clyde with a fleet of one hundred and sixty vessels, intending to usurp the Scottish Crown. He was defeated at Renfrew and there slain. (Chron. Man. A. D., 1104-1164). He married, about 1140 (second wife) Affrica, daughter of Olave the Red, King of Man, and had three sons: Dougal, from whom came subsequently the Ducal House of Argyle; Angus, the third son, who became Lord of the Isle of Bute; and Ranald, the second sou, who became Lord of the Isles of Mull, Kintyre, &c.

His son DonAld was the father of Angus (d. about 1290), whose grandson John, Lord of the Isles, married Margaret, daughter of Robert II, King of Scotland, grandson of King Robert I, the Bruce.

Her descent from the old English kings of the House of Cerdic is as follows:

King Ecgberht, d. 836;

his son, King Ethelwulf, d. 855;

son, King Alfred the Great, d. 899;

son, King Edward the Elder, d. 927;

son, King Edmund, d. 946;

son, King Edgar, d. 975;

son, King Etheldred the Unready, d. 1016;

son, King Edmund Ironside, killed 1016;

son, Edward the Confessor;

daughter Saint Margaret, who m. 1068 Malcolm III, King of Scotland, d. 1093

son, King David I. of Scotland, d. 1158;

son, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon;

son, David, Earl of Huntingdon, brother of King William IV, the Lion

second daughter, Isabella, m. Robert Bruce, Lord of Annandale

son, Robert Bruce, the Claimant

son, Robert Bruce Earl of Canirk who m. Isabella Countess of Buchan, of the family of Macduff;

son, Robert I, the Bruce, King of Scotland, b. 1274 and d. June 7, 1329, m. Isabel of Mar;

daughter Marjory m., about 1316, Walter Fitz Allan, the High Steward of Scotland;

son, Robert II. King of Scotland, 1370, and founder of the Stewart (or Stuart) dynasty;

his daughter Margaret m. John, Lord of the Isles, the father of Alexander, Lord of Lochaber

, whose son, MacAlexander, is looked upon as the real founder of the House of Alexander.

His descendant, Thomas Alexander, in a legal instrument dated March 6, 1505, is mentioned as Baron of Menstrey.

His son, Andrew Alexander, Baron of Menstrey, died prior to 1527. His wife was Katherine Graham.

Their son, Alexander Alexander, Baron of Menstrey (1529), m. Lady Elizabeth Douglas, daughter of Thomas Douglas, eldest son of Sir Robert Douglas of Lochleven by his wife Margaret, daughter of David Balfour of Burleigh, an ancestor of the Earls of Morton. (See Doug- las' Peerage, vol. II, p. 273).

Alexander Alexander had

a son, Andrew Alexander, Baron of Menstrey (1544),

whose son, Alexander Alexander, Baron of Menstrey, d. about 1566. His wife was Elizabeth Forbes.

His son, Wiliam Alexander, had two sons

Alexander Alexander, Baron of Menstrey, who was the father of

William Alexander, Earl of Sterling (and Thomas Alexander, b. in Scotland 1630, but removed to Ireland 1652 for distaste of the Rump Parliament of Cromwell. "An intense Presbyterian, but loyal to the Catholic Stuarts, of whom he was a blood kinsman.")

Another take on the Royal descent:

Robert Bruce, King of Scotland, married Lady Isabel, daughter of Donald, Earl of Mar, and had :

Princess Mary Bruce, who married Walter, Lord High Steward of England, and had:

Robert II, King of Scotland, who married Lady Elizabeth Muir, and had:

Princess Catharine Stewart, who married Sir David Lindsay, Earl of Crawford, and had:

Lady Margery Lindsay, who married Sir William Douglas, of Lochleven, and had:

Sir Henry Douglas, who married Lady Elizabeth Erskine, and had:

Robert Douglas, who married Margaret Balfour, had:

Lord Thomas Douglas, who married Lady Elizabeth, daughter of Archibald Boyd (son of Lord Robert Boyd, who was Regent of Scotland, 1466). They had:

Lady Elizabeth Douglas, who married Alexander Alexander of Menstrie, had:

Lord William Alexander, born 1580; knighted 1613 ; died 1640 ; progenitor of the Virginia Alexanders

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A descent from Charlemagne to Robert Bruce, this could be a fantasy, who knowss:

- Charles I "Charlemagne", King of the Franks, King of the Lombards, Emperor of the West (b. 2 Apr 742 Ingolheim, d. 28 Jan 814 Aachen) m3. Hildegard of Alemannien (b. 758, d. 30 Apr. 783)

- Pepin I (b. as Carloman), King of Italy 781-810 (b. Apr 773, d. 8 July 810)

m. 795 Bertha of Toulouse

- Bernhard, King of Italy 810-818 (b. c797, d. 17 Aug/Apr 818 as a result of blinding)

Illegitimate son of Pepin. m. 813 Kunigunda Cunegonde

- Pepin II, Count of Senlis, Peronne and St. Quentin (b. 815/818, d. aft 840)

wife's name is unknown

- Hubert I/Heribert I, Count of Senlis and Vermandois (b. c850, d. 900 or 6 Nov. 907)

m. Beatrice de Morvois

- Beatrice/Beatrix de VERMANDOIS (b. c880, d. Mar. 931) m. 895 Robert I, King of France (b. c865, d. 15 June 923) (Geni note: She is in our line elsewhere, I believe)

- Hugh "the Great" of Neustria, Burgundy and Aquitania, Count of Paris, Duke of the Franks (b. c895, d. 16/17 June 956) m3. Hedwig of Saxony, sister of Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor

- Hugh "Capet", Count of Paris, first Duke then King of France (b. c938/940 Paris, d. 24 Oct 996 Chartres) m. c969/70 Adele/Adelaide of Aquitaine (b. 945, d. 1004)

- Hedwige de France (b. c972-980, d aft 1013) m. Rainier/Reginar IV, Count of Mons (b. c950-955, d. 1013)

- Beatrix de HAINAULT (b. c1000, d, 1040) m. Ebles I de ROUCY, Count of Roucy, Archbishop of Rheims 1021-33 (b. c988, d 11 May 1033)

- Adele/Adela/Alix/Alice de ROUCY (b. c1014, d. 1063) m. Hilduin III/IV DE MONTDIDIER, Count of Montdidier and Roucy (b. c1010, d 1062/3)

- Margaret de MONTDIDIER (b. c1035/45, d aft 1103) m. Hugh I DE CLERMONT, Count of Clermont (b. c1030 France, d. 1101 Nothamptonshire, England) Hugh and Margarent probably came to England following the Battle of Hastings in 1066.

- Adeliza/Adelaide de CLAREMONT (b. c1058, d. aft 1117) m. bef 1090 Gilbert FitzRichard de Toneburge, Lord of Clare, Lord of Cardigan (b. bef 1066, d. 1113/1114/1117)

Gilbert's father, Richard FitzGilbert de Toneburge, was probably a Norman noble who came to England along with William the Conqueror in 1066.

- Richard FitzGilbert, Lord of Clare, 1st Earl of Hertford (b. 1084-90, d. 15 Apr/June 1136)

m. bef 1116 Adelize/Alice de Meschines (b. 1088/94, d. 1128)

- Roger de CLARE, Earl of Clare, 3rd Earl of Hertford (b. aft 1115, d. 1173) m. c1182 Matilda/Maud de ST HILAIRE DU HARCOUET (d. 1195)

- Richard de CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford (b. c1153, d. Oct/Nov 1217) m. Amicia FitzRobert, Countess of Gloucester (b. 1160, d. 1225) Richard was one of the 25 barons who signed the Magna Carta on 15 June 1215.

- Gilbert de CLARE, 5th Earl of Hertford, 1st Earl of Gloucester (b. c1180, d. 1229)

m. Isabella/Isabel MARSHAL (b. 9 Oct 1200, d. 19 Jan 1240) Gilbert was one of the 25 barons who signed the Magna Carta on 15 June 1215.

- Isabel de CLARE (b. 8 Nov 1226, d. 1254) m. 1240 Robert Bruce "The Competitor", 5th Lord of Annandale (b. 1210, d. 1 Apr 1295 Lochmaben Castle, Scotland)

- Robert BRUCE, Earl of Carrick (b. 1253, d. Mar 1304) m1. 1271/2 Marjorie. m2. c1292 to Eleanor With Marjorie, Robert had 11 children.

- Robert I the BRUCE, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Annandale, King of Scots (b. 11 July 1274 in Writtle, Essex or Turnberry Castle, Strathclyde; d. 7 June 1329 Cardross, Strathclyde)

m. 1302 Elizabeth DE BURGH (b. c1284; d. 28 Oct 1327)

References

Genealogy, Records and Intermarriages of the Fordyce, Bruce & Clark Families at Uyeasound, Unst, Shetland, 2nd ed., by John Clark (printed for private circulation by Thos. Paul, Grahamston Printing Works; Falkirk; 1902).

Shetland Documents 1195 - 1579, John H. Ballantyne and Brian Smith (eds.), (Shetland Islands Council & The Shetland Times Ltd., Lerwick, 1999).

Shetland Documents 1580 - 1611, John H. Ballantyne and Brian Smith (eds.), (Shetland Islands Council & The Shetland Times Ltd., Lerwick, 1994).

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Also Americans of Royal Descent By Charles Henry Browning:

Alfred THE GREAT, of England, had :

Edward the Elder, King of Kngland, who had :

Edmund I., King of England, who had:

Edgar the Peaceful, King of England, who hod:

Ethelred II., King of England, who had:

Edmund II., King of England, who had:

Prince Edward, the Exile, ofEngland,who had:

Margaret, m. Malcolm III., of Scotland, and had:

St. David, King of Scotland, who had:

Henry, Prince of Scotland, who had:

David, Earlof Huntingdon, who had:

Isabel, m. Robert, Earl of Annandale, and had:

Robert Bruce, Lord of Annandale, who had:

Robert Bruce, Earl of Carrick, who had:

Robert Bruce, King of Scotland, who had:

Mary, m. Walter, Lord High Steward, and had:

Robert II., King of Scotland, who had:

Catherine, m, David, Earl of Crawford, and had:

Elizabeth, m. Sir William Douglas, and had:

Sir Henry Douglas, of Lochlevan, who had:

Robert Douglas, of Lochlevan, who had :

Sir Robert Douglas, of Lochlevan, wio had:

Thomas Douglas, of Lochlevan, who had :

Elizabeth, m. Alexander Alsynder, and had :

Andrew Alexander, of Mlnstrle, who had:

John Alexander, of Oognr, who had:

Alexander Alexander, of Millnab

also from the same book:

THE EMPEROR CHARLEMAGNE had :

Louis I., King of France, who had :

CharlesII., King of France, who had:

Louis II., King of France, who had:

Charles III., King of France, who had:

Louis IV., King of France, who had:

Charles, Duke of Lorraine, who had:

Charles, Duke of Lorraine, who had:

Wlgerlus, Duke of Lorraine, who had:

Baldrlck-Teutonlcus, who had:

Nicholas de Bacqueville, who had:

Walter de Warren, who had:

William de Warren, who had:

William, Earl of Warren and Surrey, who had:

William, Earl of Warren and Surrey, who had :

Ada, nt. Henry, Prince of Scotland, and had:

David, Earl of Huntingdon, who had:

Isabel, m. Robert, Lord of Annandale, and had:

Robert Bruce, Lord of Annandale, who had:

Robert Bruce, Earl of Carrick, who had: -------------------- http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18182599/person/620377168

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Alexander (Andrew) Alexander, 6th Baron of Menstrie's Timeline

1540
1540
Menstrie, Logie Clakmannshire, Sterling, Scotland
1554
1554
Age 14
1567
1567
Age 27
Menstrie, Clackmannanshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
1567
Age 27
Scotland
1570
1570
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Menstrie, , Logie Clackmanshire Sterlings, Scotland
1575
1575
Age 35
1580
February 10, 1580
Age 40
Menstrie, Logie Clakmannshire, Sterling, Scotland
1580
Age 40
Tarbert, Kintyre, Scotland
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