Baroness Chamdes, Cicely Sutton

• Lady Cicely Grey1
• F, #2636, d. circa April 1554
• Last Edited=12 Nov 2011
• Consanguinity Index=0.51%
• Lady Cicely Grey was the daughter of Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset and Cecilia Bonville, Baroness Bonville and Harington.1 She married John Sutton, 3rd Lord Dudley, son of Edward Sutton, 2nd Lord Dudley and Cicely Willoughby, after 30 October 1519.1 She died circa April 1554.1 She was buried on 28 April 1554 at St. Margaret's Church, Westminster, London, England.1
• From after 30 October 1519, her married name became de Sutton.
• Children of Lady Cicely Grey and John Sutton, 3rd Lord Dudley
  • 1.Edward Sutton, 4th Lord Dudley+1 d. 8 Jul 1586
  • 2.Henry Dudley1
  • 3.George Dudley1
  • 4.Eleanor Sutton+1
  • 5.Thomas Dudley+1 b. c 1539, d. c 1574
• Citations
• 1.[S37] Volume 1, page 1192. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p264.htm#i2636 _________________
• Cecily Grey1,2,3,4,5,6,7
• F, #86885, b. circa 1488
• Father Sir Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset, Lord Ferrers, Constable of the Tower of London & Ruthland Castle1,2,3,8,5,9,10 b. c 1455, d. 30 Aug 1501
• Mother Cecily Bonville1,2,3,8,5,9,10 b. 1461, d. 12 Apr 1530 or 12 May 1530
• Cecily Grey was born circa 1488 at of Groby, Leicestershire, England.1 She married Sir John Dudley, 3rd Lord Dudley, son of Sir Edward Sutton, 2nd Lord Dudley & Lord Powys and Cecily Willoughby, circa 1512; Betrothed before 30 October 1501. They had 4 sons (Sir Edward, 4th Lord Dudley; Sir Henry; Thomas; & Sir George) and 3 daughters (Margaret, wife of William Gibbons; Dorothy; & Elizabeth).1,2,3,4,5,6,7 Cecily Grey was buried on 28 April 1554 at St. Margaret's Chapel, Westminster, London, Middlesex, England.1,2,5
• Family Sir John Dudley, 3rd Lord Dudley b. c 1496
• Children
  • Sir Edward Dudley, 4th Lord Dudley+11 b. c 1513
  • Sir Henry Dudley+2 b. c 1517, d. bt 1568 - 1570
• Citations
• 1.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. IV, p. 481.
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 279-280.
• 3.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 359.
• 4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 306.
• 5.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 157.
• 6.[S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 166.
• 7.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 163.
• 8.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 304-305.
• 9.[S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 164-165.
• 10.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 160-162.
• 11.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. IV, p. 481-2.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2892.htm#... ___________________
• John Sutton, 3rd Baron Dudley (1494–1553), commonly known as Lord Quondam, was the eldest son and heir of Sir Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley and his wife Lady Cicely (Willoughby) Sutton, a descendant of Edward III of England.
• He was born about 1494, at Dudley Castle, Worcestershire. He was betrothed to Lady Cecily Grey (a daughter of Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset, by Cecily, his wife, suo jure Baroness Harington and Baroness Bonville) by 30 October 1501, whom he subsequently married. He was knighted 13 October 1513. He succeeded his father Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley as Baron Dudley in 1532 and immediately began to sell his patrimony, including half of Powis Castle. He was never summoned to Parliament. ....
• 'Lord Quondam' had several brothers: Thomas, William, Arthur, Geoffery and George. Lord Dudley decided upon a city residence at Tothill Street in Westminster. He died in Middlesex and was buried 18 September 1553 in St Margaret's, Westminster, London; his wife was buried there on 28 April 1554.[2]
• His children included Edward, Captain Henry (Knt.), George, Margaret, Thomas, Dorothy, Elizabeth, and Robert.
• It is often stated that Thomas Dudley was a grandson of Captain Sir Henry Dudley. He sailed on the Arbella in 1630 to become governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony several times. However the descent from the Barons Dudley is not proven. According to Cotton Mather's history,[3] Gov. Dudley used a seal with the arms of the Sutton family on official documents and his will. Whatever the ambiguities associated with his paternal ancestry, however, both Dudley's mother Susanna Thorne and his second wife Katherine Deighton were demonstrably of noble descent.[4][5]
• Indeed, according to one theory,[6] the difficulty of proving Gov. Dudley's descent from Lord Quondam is compounded by reluctance during his lifetime to acknowledge any connection to that pauper and national laughing-stock. This long-standing genealogical Gordian knot may soon be cut through DNA testing.
• From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sutton,_3rd_Baron_Dudley _____________________
• Cecily GREY (B. Sutton of Dudley)
• Born: ABT 1497, Denbigh, Denbighshire, Wales
• Died: 28 Apr 1554
• Buried: 28 Apr 1554, Westminster, Middlesex, England
• Notes: In Feb 1537, she wrote to Thomas Cromwell, complaining of the poverty in which she and her husband were forced to live.
• Father: Thomas GREY (1° M. Dorset)
• Mother: Cecily BONVILLE (M. Dorset)
• Married: John SUTTON (3° B. Sutton of Dudley) 30 Oct 1520
• Children:
  • 1. Edward SUTTON (4° B. Sutton of Dudley)
  • 2. Henry SUTTON (Knight Capt.)
  • 3. George SUTTON
  • 4. Margaret SUTTON
  • 5. John SUTTON
  • 6. Thomas SUTTON
  • 7. Dorothy SUTTON
  • 8. Elizabeth SUTTON
  • 9. Robert SUTTON
• ¿Married 2: ? BRYDGES (B. Chandos)?
• From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/GREY5.htm#Cecily GREY (B. Sutton of Dudley) ____________________

Name Cicely Grey [46, Dudley article, Vol IV, p. 481], [43, York of 1563-4, pub 1881 by Harleian, Strangeways, p. 302], [57, Dudley article, p. 124], 2C14R

Death ca Apr 1554

Burial 28 Apr 1554, St Margaret's Westminster

Father Thomas Grey Marquess of Dorset (1451-1501)

Mother Cecily Bonville Baroness Bonville (ca1460-1529)

Spouses

1 Sir John Sutton Lord Dudley [46, Dudley article, Vol IV, p. 481], [43, York of 1563-4, pub 1881 by Harleian, Strangeways, p. 302], [57, Dudley article, p. 124], 3C14R

Birth ca 1495

Death ca Sep 1533, Westminster, London

Burial 18 Sep 1553, St Margaret's Westminster

General 3rd earl. Sold off family estates (a bit simple).

Father Edward Sutton Lord Dudley (ca1459-1532)

Mother Cecily Willoughby

Marriage aft 30 Oct 1501 [46, Dudley article, Vol IV, p. 481]

Children Edward (-<1586)

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(From Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Bonville )

The title of Baron Bonville was created once in the Peerage of England. On 23 September 1449, William Bonville was summoned to Parliament. On his death in 1460, the barony was inherited by his granddaughter Cecilia Grey], née Bonville [*], who one year before succeeded as Baroness Harington, with which title the barony merged until 1554, when both baronies were forfeited. From her death in 1530 to the forfeiture in 1554, the baronies were merged with the title of Marquess of Dorset.

Barons Bonville:

William Bonville, 1st Baron Bonville (1392-1461)

• Cecilia Grey, 2nd Baroness Bonville,

  7th Baroness Harington (c.1459-1530) 

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Sir John SUTTON Lord Dudley [Parents] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 was born 1493 in Dudley, Staffordshire, England. He died Sep 1553 in Westminster, Middlesex, England and was buried 7 18 Sep 1553 in St. Margaret, Westminster, Middlesex, England. John married Cicely GREY on Oct 1501 in Groby, Leicestershire, England.

Cicely GREY [Parents] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 was born 1491 in Groby, Leicestershire, England. She died Apr 1554 in Westminster, Middlesex, England and was buried 7 28 Apr 1554 in St. Margaret, Westminster, Middlesex, England. Cicely married Sir John SUTTON Lord Dudley on Oct 1501 in Groby, Leicestershire, England.

They had the following children:

		M	i	 Sir Edward SUTTON Lord Dudley was born 1517 and died Aug 1586.

		M	ii	 Sir Henry DUDLEY Knight 1, 2 was born 1519 in Dudley, Staffordshire, England.

		M	iii	 Thomas DUDLEY 1, 2 was born 1521 in Dudley, Staffordshire, England.

		F	iv	 Margaret DUDLEY 1, 2 was born 1523 in Dudley, Staffordshire, England.

		M	v	 Sir George DUDLEY Knight 1, 2 was born 1525 in Dudley, Staffordshire, England.

		F	vi	 Dorothy DUDLEY 1, 2 was born 1527 in Dudley, Staffordshire, England.

		F	vii	 Elizabeth DUDLEY 1, 2 was born 1530 in Dudley, Staffordshire, England.

Cicely GREY

1Richardson, Douglas, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2005.), p. 391.

2Cokayne, George Edward, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, or Dormant (London: St. Catherine Press, 1910.), 4:481, Los Angeles Public Library, 929.721 C682.

3Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004.), pp. 279-80, Family History Library, 942 D5rd.

4Faris, David, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999. [2nd Edition]), p. 160, Los Angeles Public Library, Gen 974 F228 1999.

5Richardson, D., Plantagenet Ancestry: CMF, p. 360.

6Collections for a History of Staffordshire (Birmingham: William Salt Archaeological Society, 1888.), 9 (2): 96, Family History Library, 942.46 B4sc.

7Collections for a History of Staffordshire, 9 (2): 97.

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Birth: 1497 Groby Leicestershire, England Death: Apr. 28, 1554 Westminster Greater London, England

Baroness Chandos.

Family links:

Parents:

 Thomas de Grey (1456 - 1501)

 Cecily Bonville de Grey (1460 - 1530)

Spouse:

 John Dudley Sutton (1494 - 1553)*

Children:

 Edward Sutton (1525 - 1586)*

Siblings:

 Edward Grey (1476 - 1517)*

 Thomas Grey (1477 - 1530)*

 Leonard de Grey (1478 - 1541)*

 Richard Grey (1486 - 1525)*

 Margaret De Grey Wake (1494 - ____)*

 Cecily Grey Sutton (1497 - 1554)