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About Dorothy Ogle, Lady Grey

Father: Ralph OGLE b: 7 NOV 1468 in Of, Bothal, Northumberland, England Mother: Margaret Gascoigne b: ABT 1473 in Of, Gawthorpe, York, England Marriage 1 Thomas Grey Children 1. Isabel Grey b: 1533 Marriage 2 Thomas FORSTER b: ABT 1500 in , , , England * Married: 1522 in , , , England Children 1. Thomas FORSTER b: ABT 1526 in Of Adderstone, Northumberland, England. Dorothy Ogle is the daughter of Ralph Ogle, 3rd Baron Ogle. She married, firstly, Sir Thomas Forster, son of Thomas Forster and unknown Hilton. She married, secondly, Sir Thomas Grey.

  • 'Foster genealogy; (1899) Vol. 1
  • http://www.archive.org/details/fostergenealogy01pier
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/fostergenealogy01pier#page/14/mode/1up
  • 21. SIR THOMAS FOSTER (Sir Thomas, Sir William, Sir Richard, Sir Reginald, Sir Alfred, Sir Randolph, Sir John, Sir William, Sir Reginald, Sir Hugo, Sir Richard, Baldwin IV, Baldwin III, Baldwin II, Baldwin I, Anacher Great Forester). He was knighted, and married the daughter of Fetherstonbaugh, of Stanhope Hall, Durham, Chief of the Fetherston clan. This family is of Saxon origin, and was seated at Fetherston, in Northumberland, before the Conquest; that part of the country having been allotted to its progenitor, a Saxon officer, for his gallant conduct against the Britons. The house in which the family resided was formerly upon a hill, where were two stones — called fether stones. The house was destroyed and a new edifice erected under the hill, which valley was locally denominated a haugh, hence the name Fetherstonehaugh. Sir Thomas' children were:
    • 22. i. SIR THOMAS. He was knighted, was of Etherston, and married the daughter of Lord Baron Hilton, of Hilton Castle. His children were:
      • ' 24. SIR THOMAS FORSTER (Sir Thomas, Sir Thomas, Sir Thomas, Sir Thomas, Sir William, Sir Richard, Sir Reginald, Sir Alfred, Sir Randolph, Sir John, Sir William, Sir Reginald, Sir Hugo, Sir Richard, Baldwin IV, Baldwin III, Baldwin II, Baldwin I, Anacher Great Forester). He was of Etherston, Knight, who was High Sheriff of Northumberland in 1564, and also in 1572 married Dorothy, dau. of Ralph, Lord Ogle of Ogle,* and Baron of Bothall of Bothall Castle by Mary his wife, daughter of William Gastroigne of Lawthrop, Knight in Yorkshire. His children were :
        • 28. i. SIR THOMAS FORSTER, m. Feorina Wharton.
        • 29. ii. SIR JOHN FORSTER, Knight of Bamborough Castle.
        • 30. iii. REGINALD, who left only a daughter.
        • 31. iv. ROLLAND, who left only a daughter.
        • 32. v. ROBERT, ancestor of the family of Forsters of York, Baronets.
        • 33. vi. ELIZABETH.
        • 34. vii. AGNES.
        • 35. viii. DOROTHY, who m. Henry Neville, b. of Sir John Neville of Levassy.
        • 28. SIR THOMAS FORSTER (Sir Thomas, Sir Thomas, Sir Thomas, Sir Thomas, Sir Thomas, Sir William, Sir Richard, Sir Reginald, Sir Alfred, Sir Randolph, Sir John, Sir William, Sir Reginald, Sir Hugo, Sir Richard, Baldwin IV, Baldwin III, Baldwin II, Baldwin I, Anacher Great Forester). He was a Knight of Etherston, married Feorina, dau. of Thomas, Lord Wharton of Wharton. He was of Adderstone. High Sheriff of Northumberland. Will dated April 4, 1589, and had children.
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  • 'Dorothy Ogle1
  • F, #234211
  • Last Edited=14 Jun 2007
  • ' Dorothy Ogle is the daughter of Ralph Ogle, 3rd Baron Ogle.1 She married, firstly, Sir Thomas Forster, son of Thomas Forster and unknown Hilton.1 She married, secondly, Sir Thomas Grey.1
  • ' Her married name became Grey.1 Her married name became Forster.1
  • 'Child of Dorothy Ogle and Sir Thomas Forster
    • 1.Thomas Forster+1
  • Citations
  • 1.[S21] L. G. Pine, The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971: Containing Extinct, Abeyant, Dormant and Suspended Peerages With Genealogies and Arms (London, U.K.: Heraldry Today, 1972), page 128. Hereinafter cited as The New Extinct Peerage.
  • http://www.thepeerage.com/p23422.htm#i234211
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  • 'Dorothy OGLE
  • 'Born: ABT 1500, Eglingham, Northumberland, England
  • 'Died: AFT 1535, Northumberland, England
  • Father: Ralph OGLE (3° B. Ogle)
  • Mother: Margaret GASCOIGNE (B. Ogle)
  • 'Married 1: Thomas FORSTER of Adderstone (Sir Knight) ABT 1520
  • Children:
    • 1. Eleanor FORSTER (m. George Craster)
    • 2. John FORSTER of Barnborough (Sir Knight) (b. 1520 - d. 1602) (m.1 Isabel Shepperd - m.2 Jane Radcliffe)
    • 3. Reginald FORSTER
    • 4. Rowland FORSTER
    • 5. Dorothy FORSTER (m. Sir Reynold Carnaby)
    • 6. Thomas FORSTER (Sheriff of Northumberland) (m. Feorina Wharton)
    • 7. Elizabeth FORSTER
    • 8. Angus FORSTER
    • 9. Robert FORSTER
    • 10. Margaret FORSTER (m. William Heron)
    • 11. Frances FORSTER (m. Robert Spencer)
  • 'Married 2: Thomas GREY of Horton (Sir Knight) ABT 1530, Northumberland, England
  • Children:
    • 12. Catherine GREY
    • 13. Anne (Agnes) GREY
    • 14. Isabel GREY
    • 15. Margery GREY
    • 16. Barbara GREY
    • 17. Roger GREY
    • 18. Ursula GREY
    • 19. Margaret GREY
    • 20. Catherine GREY
    • 22. Dau. GREY
  • http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/OGLE.htm#Dorothy OGLE2
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  • 'Dorothy Ogle
  • 'F, b. circa 1487
  • Father Ralph Ogle, 3rd Lord Ogle b. 7 Nov 1468, d. 16 Jan 1513
  • Mother Margaret Gascoigne d. a 6 Jul 1515
  • ' Dorothy Ogle was born circa 1487 at of Eglingham, Northumberland, England. She married Thomas Forster, son of Thomas Forster and Jane Hilton, circa 1504. Dorothy Ogle married Thomas Grey, son of Roger Grey and Isabel Darcy, circa 1528.
  • 'Family 1 Thomas Forster b. c 1485, d. bt 4 Mar 1526 - 1530
  • Child
    • Margaret Forster+ b. c 1505
  • 'Family 2 Thomas Grey b. c 1509, d. 5 Aug 1570
  • Child
    • Isabel Grey+ b. c 1530, d. b 11 Jul 1582
  • http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2582.htm#i77581
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  • 'Genealogy of the descendants of the Prichards, formerly lords of Llanover, Monmouthshire, with ... (1868)
  • http://www.archive.org/details/genealogydescen00smargoog
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/genealogydescen00smargoog#page/n167/mode/1up
  • Descent through Greys of Horton, a younger branch of the Greys of Heton. (See Ped. 17,) Barry of 6. ar. and az. a bend gu.
  • Sir Roger Grey, of Horton, Kt, will dated 14 Feb. 1540, bur. at Belford, mar. Jane, (Isabel) dau. of William Lord Darcy, and sister to Thomas Lord Darcy who was beheaded 20th June, 1539.
    • ' His son, Sir Thomas Grey, of Horton, Kt. died at his house at Bethnal Green, 7th, bur. 10th Aug., 1590, mar. Dorothy, dau. of Ralph, Lord Ogle', issue six co-heiresses. (See Scheme, No. CI. Ped. 17.) 1. — Isabel, mar. Sir Ralph Grey, of Chillingham, ancestor of Lords Grey, Ossulston, and Durham. 2. — Anne, mar. Robert Clavering, of Callaly. 3. — Margery, mar. John, son and heir of Sir George Heron, Kt. of Chipchase Castle. 4. — Ursula, mar. Humphery Heron, of Bokenfield. 5. — Catharine, mar. John Carr, of Woodhall. 6.— Judith, or Eden, mar. (3rd husband) Lisle, of Gosforth.
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/genealogydescen00smargoog#page/n181/mode/1up
  • 33. — Their son, Ralph, 3rd Lord Ogle, who d. 1513, mar. Margaret, d. of Sir William Gascoyne. (See Scheme, No. CL. at Page 102.)
    • 34. — Their son, Robert, 4th Lord Ogle, born 1491, mar. Anne, d. of Thomas Lumley, (son and heir of Sir George, Lord Lumley) by his wife Lady Elizabeth Plantagenet, nat. dau. of King Edward IV. by Lady Elizabeth Lucy.
      • 35 — Their son, Robert, 5th Lord Ogle, who died 1546, mar. Dorothy, dau. of Sir Henry Widdrington, of Widdrington.
        • ' 36. — Their dau. Dorothy Ogle, mar. Sir Thomas Foster, of Etherstone; Marshall of Berwick. (Raine, and Hodgson.)
  • Descent through Foster, of Ederstone.
  • A. — Foster mar. Etherstone, of Etherstone. (Raine.)
  • Ar. a chev. vert. between three bugles sa. (Foster.)
  • Ar. on a bend cottised sa. three martletts or. (Etherstone.)
    • B. — John Foster, of Etherstone, mar. the dau. of Fetherstonehaugh, of Stanhope Hall, co. Pal.
      • C. — Their son, Thomas Foster, of Etherstone, (will dated 1526), mar. the dau. of Sir William Hilton, by Margery, d. of Sir William Bowes. (As above, Ped. Lumley.)
        • ' D. — Sir Thomas Foster, of Etherstone, mar. Dorothy Ogle, (as above.) (Scheme at Page 102.)
          • 37. — Their dau.Margaret Foster, mar. William, son of Sir W. Heron, of Ford Castle. (see below.)
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  • 'The Forsters of Adderstone and Bamburgh
  • http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:5LguL2f_TywJ:theforsterfamily.com/The%2520Forsters%2520of%2520Adderstone%2520and%2520Bamburgh.pdf+Florence+Wharton+1557&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESi8D3bD5x-udb8fRGZa_9PZERZ4zu8LxPuFnVGMQp_9B2nQ_kyP7ADP5vraA3MFqWTIYxHD-aw9r3udl2vWL3yWMuPagvhhEuKrT9xE-kqrzZZDr_v3_BtZozfiH4LJCQYyCmKp&sig=AHIEtbSwBnNXI5i_YUHAF_Dfi63QDD8SiQ
  • Pg. 12
  • 2. Thomas Forster II of Etherstone (Thomas Forster I of Etherstone) was born in 1394 and he died in 1446
  • This Sir Thomas is considered to be the first of the Adderstone-Bamburgh line, and so he ranks highly in family records dating back to that time. For all intents and purposes he was the first of the Bamburgh Forsters. History shows that he owned a Pele Tower in Adderstone in 1415. Later that year, as a youth of 18 or 19 he accompanie Henry V to France, where he is said to have fought valiantly at the Battle of Agincourt under the Percy family banner. (The young Earl of Northumberland, a lad of 17, was not present, having been charged by Henry V with the task of holding the Scot at bay along the Border during the King's absence in France). He returned to Northumbria with a well-earned Knighthood for his deeds in the field at Agincourt and his name on the Subsidy Roll as holding one quarter of a knight's fee in Adderstone. He had earlier married Elizabeth Featherstonhaugh and the Arms of her family were now added to Thomas's new Arms marking the start of a real dynasty. (The fee related to land granted in exchange for his outstanding military service.) Elizabeth bore him 22 children, 19 boys and three daughters. Thomas, as the elder, inherited his father's title. (GF)
    • (JF) pedigree list the first four children. (JoeF) also lists the first four and the remainder in his pedigree. (BP) pedigree list the first three males, Thomas Roger and Nicholas, and a reference for a marriage to Gerard Shaftoe. (BP pedigree also states there were 19 sons and 3 daughters. (HughF)
  • Thomas married Elizabeth Featherstonhaugh daughter of William Featherstonhaugh of Stanhope Hall. They had the following children:
    • Pg. 13
    • 3. Thomas Forster III of Etherstone (Thomas Forster II of Etherston, Thomas Forster I of Etherstone) was born in 1418 and died in 1503
      • Little is recorded of this Sir Thomas of this dynasty, except that he married the daughter of Baron Hilton a noble who lived at Hilton Castle, Co. Durham. And, by some amazing genetic fluke, they also had a huge number of children like Thomas's parents, the eldest three of their 19 sons being Thomas, Roger and Nicholas.
      • The story of the three Forster borthers' dubious excapade as youths is remarked upon in the family history. Let it suffice here to say that it involved the death of a family foe during a fight after they were waylaid by three Karr brothers. Roger, who struck the fatal blow, had to flee to the south of England to avoid the long arm of the law. It is worth noting, however, that he stayed in the Sough long enought to marry Joan Hussey, daughter of Lord Sussex, and begin a new branch of the Forster family with four sons, Thomas, John, Emile and Richard, who later bred several High Court Judges! One, Sir Robert Forster, became the Lord Chief Justice of England under Henry VIII! (GF)
    • Thomas married Jane Hilton daughter of Sir William Baron of Hilton Castle. They had the following children:
      • ' 10. Sir Thomas Forster IV of Etherstone (Thomas Forster III of Etherstone, Thomas Forster II of Etherstone, Thomas Forster I of Etherstone) was born in 1466 and died in 1520 in England
      • ' Born at Adderstone, he married Dorothy, the 6th daughter of Robert, Lord Ogle, and he was created Marshall of Berwick-on-Tweed by King Henry VIII. Whilst there he was given command of a troop of sixty cavalrymen just before the Battle of Flodden Field in 1513, a great battle in which he and his troops played a valiant part. He was the father of eight children.
      • ' He was described at that time as “The Chief of one of the most numerous Border Clans” and, quite apart from its humorous inference regarding his prolifically fecund father and grandfather, it appears to have been an actual fact. His eldest son became the next Thomas. But his younger son, John, was to become a notorious figure on the Border Marches. Whilst John was born an Adderstone Forster, he also heads up the Bamburgh list as Sir John Forster of Bamburgh. (GF) Will dated 3 March 1526 (BP)
        • (GF) has his birth and death date as 1430 - 1520
        • (BP) states his wife was a daughter of Ralph Ogle and sister of Robert, 4th Lord Ogle
        • (JF) states his wife was a daughter of Cuthbert, Lord Ogle of Ogle in Northumberland
      • 'Thomas married Dorothy Ogle daughter of Lord Ogle. They had the following children:
        • 24. M i. Thomas Forster V of Adderstone was born in 1498 and died in 1589
        • 25. M ii. Sir John Forster of Bamburgh was born in 1503 and died in 1603
        • 26. M iii. Reginald Forster of Clapheaton died in 1565
        • (JF) states he died without issue but then states he had two sons George Forster and Peter Forster - probably meaning they were natural sons.
        • (BP) will dated 18 Nov 1565
        • Reginald married Clara Swinburne of Clapheaton
        • 27. M iv. Rowland Forster of Lucker and Wark died in 1565
        • 28. F v. Elizabeth Forster. Elizabeth married George Finch of Kent
        • 29. F vi. Margaret Forster
        • 30. F vii. Dorothy Forster. Dorothy married Sir Reginald Carnaby of Halton
        • 31. F viii. Eleanor Forster. Eleanor married (1) George Craster. Eleanor married (2) Robert Widdrington of Plessey.
        • 24. Thomas Forster V of Adderstone (Thomas Forster IV of Etherstone, Thomas Forster III of Etherstone, Thomas Forster II of Etherstone, Thomas Forster I of Etherstone) was born in 1498 and died in 1589 in England. When he reached his 20s, Thomas V married Florence, sister of Lord Wharton, and they had four children. He was appointed Sheriff of Northumberland by Henry VIII. This enabled him to wield great power in helping to keep the peace for a while. (GF)
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  1. ID: I027479
  2. Name: Dorothy OGLE
  3. Sex: F

Father: Ralph OGLE b: 7 NOV 1468 in Of, Bothal, Northumberland, England

Mother: Margaret Gascoigne b: ABT 1473 in Of, Gawthorpe, York, England

Marriage 1 Thomas Grey

Children

  1. Isabel Grey b: 1533

Marriage 2 Thomas FORSTER b: ABT 1500 in , , , England

   * Married: 1522 in , , , England

Children

  1. Thomas FORSTER b: ABT 1526 in Of Adderstone, Northumberland, England
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  • 'Dorothy Ogle
  • Father Ralph Ogle, b. 7 Nov 1468, Of, Bothal, Northumberland, England , d. Abt 16 Jan 1513, Morped, England
  • Mother Margaret Gascoigne, b. Abt 1473, Of, Gawthorpe, York, England , d. Aft 6 Jul 1515
  • 'Family Thomas Forster, b. Abt 1500, England , d. Aft 4 Mar 1526, England
  • Children
    • 1. Thomas Forster, b. Abt 1526, Of Adderstone, Northumberland, England , d. 4 Apr 1589, Northumberland, England
  • http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/famgen/getperson.php?personID=I386091&tree=tree1
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  • Thomas Forster who served with Earl Percy at the battle of Otterburne in 1388, married Joan De Elmedon. She was the co-heir of Thomas De Elmedon and co-heir to Gilbert De Umfreville, the last Earl of Angus (chart 506, 508). As a result he became the governor of Etherstone. Their son, Thomas Forster, fought under the Percy banner at Agencourt 25 Oct 1415.
  • He was knighted and married Elizabeth Featherstonebaugh of Stanhope Hall, Durham. This family was of Saxton origin and was seated at Featherstone in Northumberland before the conquest, that part of the country having been allotted to its progenitor, a Saxton officer for his gallant conduct against the Britains. The house in which the family resided was formerly upon a hill, where there were two stones, featherstones. The house was destroyed and a new edifice erected under the hill in a valley, which valley was locally dominated a baugh, thence the name fleatherstonebaugh.
  • Thomas and Elizabeth had 23 children, 22 boys and one girl. The second child was Roger Forster who used the spelling of Foster. His descendants immigrated to America and landed in Virginia. This is the Foster that spread throughout the Carolinas and the southern part of North America.
  • The first child, Thomas, married Jane Hilton (chart 146). They had seven children. Their 4th child, 'Thomas Forster, married Dorothy Ogle. He died after 4 Mar 1526. Their son', Thomas, married Frances Wharton, and their son, John Thomas Forster, married Margaret Servington.
  • http://research.surnames.com/new_york/the_foster_early_history_in_england.htm
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  • Sir John Forster (1502?-1602) was an English military commander and Warden of the Middle Marches.
  • Born about 1501, he was son of 'Sir Thomas Forster (d. 1527) of Etherston, Northumberland, marshal of Berwick, and his wife Dorothy, daughter of Robert Ogle, 4th Baron Ogle'. Trained from early youth in border warfare, he was in August 1542 put in command of Harbottle Castle with a garrison of a hundred men. He fought at the battle of Solway Moss, 23 November 1542, under Thomas Wharton, 1st Baron Wharton, and claimed to have captured Robert Maxwell, 5th Baron Maxwell; Cuthbert Tunstall and Suffolk, however, determined that Maxwell's real captor was Edward Aglionby.[link currently leads to a wrong person]
  • References
  • Concise Dictionary of National Biography
  • Attribution
  • This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Sidney Lee, ed (1901). "Forster, John (1520?-1602)". Dictionary of National Biography, 1901 supplement?. London: Smith, Elder & Co.
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_Forster
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  • 'From generation to generation. The genealogies of Dwight Stone and Olive Evans (1907)
  • http://www.archive.org/details/fromgenerationto00lcneil
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/fromgenerationto00lcneil#page/35/mode/1up
  • 27. Sir Thomas Forster, knight, married a daughter of Fetherstanbaugh of Stanhope Hall, Durham. (This family was of Saxon origin. Their house was upon a hill where there were two fetherstones.)
    • 28. Sir Thomas Forster, knight, of Etherston Castle, married a daughter of Lord Baron Hilton of Hilton Castle.
      • ' 29. Sir Thomas Forster, married in 1572, Dorothy, daughter of Ralph, Lord Ogle of Ogle
      • http://www.archive.org/stream/fromgenerationto00lcneil#page/36/mode/1up
      • ' and Baron of Bothall of Bothall Castle, by Mary, his wife, daughter of William Gastiorgne. The Ogle family is of great antiquity in Northumberland. Sir Robert was the eighth in descent from Humphrey Ogle, who settled at Ogle at the Conquest. His wife was the daughter of Lord Bothall. William Gastiorgne was of Lowthorp and a knight of Yorkshire.
        • 30. Sir Thomas Forster, knight, of Etherston, married, Feorina, daughter of Thomas, Lord Wharton of Wharton. He was of Adderstone and will was dated, April 4, 1589.
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Ellingham, Northumberland, United Kingdom
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Etherstone, Northumberland, England
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Cold Hesledon, , Durham, England
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Alderstone, Northumberland, England
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Etherstone Castle, Durham, England
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Barnborough, Northumberland, England
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UK
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Berwick On Tweed, Northumberland, England
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Berwick On Tweed, Northumberland, England