Eleanor Deane (Strong) (c.1612 - 1693) MP

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Nicknames: "Eleanor Deane"
Birthplace: probably Taunton, Somerset, England
Death: Died in Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts
Managed by: Jocelynn Elaine Oakes
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About Eleanor Deane (Strong)

from MARY AND JOHN (reference 1)

p.72-73

"There seems to be a great deal of controversy in regard to ELEANOR STRONG, the sister of [Elder] John strong, who is said to have married Walter Deane. It has been pointed out that John Strong married Margery, the sister of Walter Deane, and that this is the reason he was called the brother-in-law of Walter Deane; also that Eleanor Cogan, the daughter of William Cogan, is called the wife of Walter Deane in her father's will. However, her father does not say so. Below is given a part of the will of William Cogan dated 1654:

"I give, devise and beqeath the cottage house i/n Southchard aforesaid wherein I now dwell with the backsid garden and close of land thereunto belongeings with theire appurtenances (after the death of my daughter Eleanor Deane wife of Walter Deane in New England) unto Eleanor Cogan my daughter and to the heires males of her bodie lawfully to be begotten for ever. And for default of such issue then to the heires males of the said Eleanor Deane of her bodie lawfully begotten."

"William Cogan, who died after 1654, plainly states that Eleanor Deane's is in New England, and yet bequeaths to his daughter Eleanor's sons should she have any. By this time Eleanor Deane had at least one son (James born in 1648). Nora E. Snow, in the Snow-Estes Genealogy, gives a reasonable explanation of this situation:

"Governor Strong's Tradition says that the father of John Strong died while his son was young (1613). Please note the peculiar wording of the William Cogan will, and the peculiar right that the daughter Eleanor Deane seems to hold to the homestead estate; also note the fact that William Cogan has had two daughters named Eleanor. It has been my belief that William Cogan had married the mother of John Strong and that Eleanor Deane was really the sister of John Strong, and step-daughter of William Cogan."

   Snow, Nora E., The Snow-Estes Ancestry, published by the author, 1939, Hillburn,NY
   New England Historical and Genealogical Register: Vol.III, p.383; Vol. VIII, pp.180-183;
       Vol.XXIII,pp.294-296; Vol.LI,pp.432-434
    

p.74 "According to family tradition, ELDER JOHN STRONG was born and lived at Taunton in Somersetshire, but no record of his birth nor residence there has ever been found. Nor has any record been found of a Richard Strong, said to be John's father. About twelve mile from Taunton lies the village of Chard, and here is found the record of the burial of John Strong of Chard, July 14, 1613. In the will of this John Strong is named a son John and an unborn child. Mr. Albert Strong, author of The Strongs of Strongsville, believes this posthumous child to have been the daugther, Eleanor."

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Eleanor's mother Margerie [sic - the mother's name was also Eleanor] was carrying her second child, Eleanor, when her husband died. Margerie married second, William Coggin (Cogan) , who raised his wife's child as his own. Her name is sometimes cited as Eleanor Coggin, and sometimes Eleanor Strong.

Her Brother, John Strong, married Margerie Dean, the sister of the man Eleanor would marry, Walter Dean.

The Coggin, Dean, and Strong families were close in both England and America. They were based in Somersetshire, in and around the town of South Chard, in the west of England. A lot of source material is available about these families and their relationships both in England and in America, which they settled in the 1630's.

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There seems to be a great deal of controversy in regard to ELEANOR STRONG, the sister of Elder John Strong, who is said to have married Walter Deane. It has been pointed out that John Strong married Margery, the sister of Walter Deane, and that this is the reason he was called brother-in-law of Walter Deane; also that Elanor Cogan, the daughter of William Cogan is called the wife of Walter Deane in her father's will. However,her father does not say so. Below is given a part of the willof William Cogan dated 1654:

"I give, devise and bequeath the cottage house in Southchard, aforesaid, whein I now dwell with the backside garden and close of land thereunto belongings with their appurtenances (after the death of my daughter Eleanor Deane, wife of Walter Deane in New England) unto Eleanor Cogan, my daughter and to the heires males of her body lawfully to be begotten forever. And for default of such issue then to the hires males of thesaid Eleanor Deane of her body lawfully begotten."

"William Cogan, who died after 1654, plainly states that Eleanor Deane is in New England and yet bequeaths to his dauaghter Elanor's sons should she have any. By this time Eleanor Deane had at least one son, Jams born 1648. Nora E Snow explains: "Governor STrong's tradition says that the father of John Strong died while his son was young 1613. Please note the peculiar wording of the WilliamCogan will and the peculiar right that the daughter Eleanor Deane seems to hold to the homestead estate; also note the fact that William Cogan has had two daughters named Eleanor. It has been my belief that William Cogan had married the mother of John Strong and that Eleanor Deane was really the sister of John Strong and step-daughter of William Cogan."

Eleanor came to New England with her brother, Elder John Strong, in the "Mary and John," in 1630

Source: American Historical Society. Encyclopedia of Massachusetts, biographical--genealogical; (Volume 3), page 28

-------------------- Laurel Logan August 19, 2008

from [http://www.gulbangi.com/5families-o/p50.htm]

Eleanor Coggan1

  1. 1227, b. 1613, d. 1693
    Eleanor Coggan was born in 1613 in England.1,2 She was the daughter of Willliam Coggan and Eleanor Deane. Eleanor Coggan married Walter Deane, son of William Deane and Margaret Wickham, in 1635. They had 5 children.3 Eleanor Coggan died in 1693 in Taunton, Province of Massachusetts Bay.1
    Eleanor Coggan immigrated on the Mary & John, arriving March 1630 in Dorchester, Massachusetts Bay Colony.4 The "Ancestry of Elder John Strong" website refers to the wife of Walter Deane as Eleanor Cogan, and gives several generations of her lineage. The "History of Ancient Windsor" refers to Eleanor, wife of Walter as John's sister. Further work is needed to resolve this conflict.5,6

Citations

  1. [S308] James Isham, "Ancestors and Family of Nicholas and Jacob Isham", Apr. 22, 2002.
  2. [S310] H. Clark Dean, "Eleanor Cogan".
  3. [S295] Henry R. Stiles, History of Ancient Windsor, Vol. II.
  4. [S27] "The Florence Fox Harrop Papers," Florence Fox Collection of A. Gulbransen.
  5. [S169] Ancestry of Elder John Strong, online http://www.geocities.com/sfaapage/mfb.html
  6. [S295] Henry R. Stiles, History of Ancient Windsor.

--Laurel Logan -------------------- Immigrated to America with 6 servants in 1637

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Eleanor Deane's Timeline

1609
October 12, 1609
Chard Borough, Somerset, England, United Kingdom
1612
1612
probably Taunton, Somerset, England
1613
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Chard, Somerset, England
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Chard, Somerset, , England
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Chard, Somerset, , England
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Chard, Somerset, , England
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Chard, Somerset, England
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Chard, Somerset, , England
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Chard, Somerset, , England
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