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Elizabeth Paine (Tuthill?)

Also Known As: "Bloomfield"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Wrentham, Suffolk, , England
Death: Died in Southold, Long Island, New York
Immediate Family:

Daughter of Elizabeth Tuthill's father and Elizabeth Tuthill's mother
Wife of Thomas Paine, of Salem
Mother of Mary Dickerson; Thomas Payne, of Dedham; Elizabeth Paine; Peter Paine, of Southold; Dorothy Paine and 3 others

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About Elizabeth Paine

Elizabeth was born in 1584 and died shortly before on 15 September 1658 at Southold, Long Island.2 Inventory of estate taken on 15 September 1658 at Southold, Long Island, £26.19.10, made by William Purrier and Charles Glover.3

She immigrated from England to the Massachusetts Bay Colony with her husband, Thomas Paine, and their children on the Mary Anne of Yarmouth on August 21, 1637.

family

Married

  1. Thomas Payne, son of Thomas Payne and Katheren Harssant, at England on 22 November 1610.1

Their children were:

  • MARY PAYNE was born on October 12, 1611. She married PHILEMON DICKERSON
  • Thomas Payne was born on January 18, 1612 and died on August 3, 1684.
  • Elizabeth Payne was born on January 20, 1614.
  • Peter Payne was born on March 14, 1616
  • Dorothy Payne was born on December 6, 1618
  • John Payne was born on August 26, 1620
  • Sara Payne was born on March 7, 1621
  • Nathaniel Payne was born on July 21, 1626 and died on April 6, 1636 (at age 9)

Data source:

  • Brower Genealogy database citing:
  • * "Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700", online www.AmericanAncestors.org. (New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as New England Marriages Prior to 1700. CD-ROM. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001. Thomas PAINE. Hereinafter cited as Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700. "PAINE, Thomas (1586-1644, Salem) & Elizabeth [?TUTHILL] (1584-1657): Eng, 22 Nov 1610; Salem/Southold, LI {Reg. 5:331, 332, 53:414; EIHC 1:3, 50:325; Corey (1900) 10; Paine 1:7, 11, 12, 93; Salem 1:444; Fellowes-Davis Anc. 88; Paine (#1) 9, 18; Wickham-Billard 142}"
  • * Nathaniel Emmons Paine, Thomas Payne of Salem and his Descendants: the Salem Branch of the Paine Family (Haverhill, Mass.: Record Pub., 1928), page 18. Hereinafter cited as Thomas Payne of Salem.
  • * Nathaniel Emmons Paine, Thomas Payne of Salem and his Descendants: the Salem Branch of the Paine Family (Haverhill, Mass.: Record Pub., 1928), page 19. Hereinafter cited as Thomas Payne of Salem.
  • From Hotten's Early American Emigrants (The Mary Ann of Yarmouth, 1637) we find: "May 19th, 1637. The examination of Thomas Paine, of Wrentom, in Suffolcke, weauear (weaver), aged 50 yeares (years), and Elizabeth, his wife, ageed (aged) 53 yeares (years), with 6 children, Thomas, John, Marey (Mary), Elizabeth, Dorethry (Dorothy), and Sarah, are desirous to goe (go) for Salem in New England to inhabitt (inhabit)" (Family Tree Maker CD364 American Source Records in England, 1600's-1800's) Broderbund Software, Inc.).

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Last updated March 2015.

The source of Elizabeth's maiden name of ?Tuthill is Torrey's New England marriages. However an early 20th century Tuthill researcher (Lucy D. Ackerly) could find no English Tuthill family where she could fit, and the early 20th century Paine researcher (Nathaniel Emmons Paine) believed she could be related to the Henry Bloomfield (of England) named as "kinsman" in Thomas Payne's will ... but with no further information.

Please continue discussion of Elizabeth's ancestry here:

http://www.geni.com/discussions/145935

The Geni tree shows her as "parents unknown" but reflecting the commonly seen maiden name.

notes

From http://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/tuthill_index.html

Elizabeth Tuthill (1584-1657) md Thomas Paine?

Torrey reports that Thomas Paine (1586-1644), of Salem, married Elizabeth ?Tuthill (1584-1657), in England on Nov 22, 1610. Is she related to our Tuthill family?

 

From http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Tuthill-46

  • Daughter of John Tuthill III and Elizabeth (Woolmer) Tuthill
  • Sister of William Tuttle, John Tuthill IV and Henry J. Tuthill I
  • Wife of Thomas Paine Jr. — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
  • Mother of Mary (Paine) Dickerson

Elizabeth was born in 1584. She was the daughter of John Tuthill and Elizabeth Woolmer. She passed away in 1658. [2]

Also seen as daughter of Richard Tuttle (Toothill) with no supporting evidence provided.

From http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/paine.html

Thomas Payne came on the Mary Anne of Yarmouth on August 21, 1637. Thomas Paine was received into the town of Salem, Massachusetts; at the age of 51.

Thomas was listed as a weaver who had come from Wrentham, Suffolk County, England. As stated in generation one, Thomas was born on December 11, 1586. He married Elizabeth---? on November 22, 1610.

From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mbwheeler&id=I020995

Note: According to Lucy D. Ackerly, "The Corey Family of Southampton & Southold, Long Island, NY", (Genealogies of Long Island Families, Vol. 1), "CD-ROM," pg. 310, the inventories of both Peter Paine and his mother, Elizabeth, were dated at Southold, Long Island 15 Sept. 1658. She died 1657, per Horace M. Paine, M.D., "Southold Branch of The Paine Family", (in Paine Family Records, H.D. Paine, 1880-1883), pg. 12 and per Torrey, pg. 552.

From Thomas Payne of Salem and his descendants the Salem branch of the Paine family, Author: Nathaniel Emmons Paine; H M Paine Publisher: Haverhill, Mass., Record Pub. Co., 1928. (view at Hathitrust) page 17:

"Henry Bloomfield may have been a brother to his wife Elizabeth or Bloomfield's wife may have been his sister. A search of the parishes in Colchester may give additional light on this point."

From http://www.deloriahurst.com/deloriahurst%20page/3540.html

Elizabeth Bloomfield

  • Born: Abt 1584, Wrentham, Suffolk, England
  • Married 22 Nov 1610, England, to Thomas Paine
  • Died: 2 May 1620, Southold, Suffolk, NY (???)

Settled in Yarmouth in 1639.

From "Library of Cape Cod History & Genealogy #70 Paine or Payne of Truro, by Shebnah Rich and #32 Early Settlers of Eastham by Joshua Paine of Harwich": "Thomas-1 Paine b. 11 Dec 1588 England; d.1640 [Virkus 7:1586-1650] (Son of Thomas Payne (ca. 1540-1631) & Katherine (Harssant) Payne), of Cooklie, co. Suffolk, England.) [Virkus 7]:m. 22 Nov 1610 Elizabeth ?.

He was a weaver from Wrentown, co. Suffolk, England. He came over in his own ship, the "Mary Ann", 1637, and settled at Salem, Mass.

From "The Planters of the Commonwealth" by Charles Edward Banks, 1930: The "Mary Anne" of Yarmouth, William Goose, master, sailing from Ipswich, Eng. in May and arriving at Boston June 20, 1637. Thomas Paine 50 weaver of Wrentham, co. Suffolk to Salem Mrs. Elizabeth Paine 53 Thomas Paine Jr. John Paine Mary Paine Elizabeth Paine Dorothy Paine Sarah Paine Margaret Neave 58 widow, of Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, to Salem Rachel Dixon

Apparently another immigrant: [Virkus 7] Thomas Paine (1586-1650) from England, with his son Thomas, to Plymouth, Mass., 1621; settled at Yarmouth; freeman 1639; 1st dep. to Gen. Ct. Married Margaret, dau. of Sir Thomas Pultney.

However, this second thomas is questionable. First of all, the only known ship to arrive in 1621 was the Fortune with its 35 passengers (number from writings of Bradford and Winslow), and the passenger list did not include either Thomas Paine.

Credible traditionary accounts that were committed to writing early in several branches of the family state that his son Thomas immigrated at about age 10 with his father Thomas.

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There was more than one Thomas Payne (or Paine) in New England and genealogists often confuse them. The constable of Eastham in 1653 was a Thomas Paine who married Mary Snow, of Mayflower pedigree. His will is dated 12 MAY 1705 and is therefore unlikely to have been related to the Thomas Payne who came over on the Mary Anne of Yarmouth in 1637, who was aged 50, and had a son named Thomas who was about 10 years old. The Eastham Thomas Paine usually is thought to be the son of Thomas Paine and Margaret Pultney. Unfortunately, some genealogists have thought that Thomas Payne, who married Elizabeth Bloomfield, must have been the same as the Eastham Thomas Paine, so that some records erroneously show both Pultney and Bloomfield as wives of one Thomas Payne. It may be that this error is also motivated by the zealous attempt to link a family to a Mayflower passenger.

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Elizabeth Paine's Timeline

1584
December 11, 1584
Wrentham, Suffolk, , England
1610
November 22, 1610
Age 25
Wrentham, Suffolk, UK

Married: 22 NOV 1610 in England, UK
Note:
from TORREY:

PAINE, Thomas (1586-1644, Salem) & Elizabeth [?TUTHILL] (1584-1657): Eng, 22 Nov 1610; Salem/Southold, LI {Reg. 5:331, 332, 53:414; EIHC 1:3, 50:325; Corey (1900) 10; Paine 1:7, 11, 12, 93; Salem 1:444; Fellowes-Davis Anc. 88; Paine (#1) 9, 18; Wickham-Billard 142}

1611
October 12, 1611
Age 26
Wrentham, Suffolk, England
1612
January 17, 1612
Age 27
Wrentham, Suffolk, England
1615
January 20, 1615
Age 30
Wrentham, Suffolk, England
1616
March 9, 1616
Age 31
Tharston, Norfolk, , England
March 9, 1616
Age 31
Tharston, Norfolk, England
March 9, 1616
Age 31
Tharston, Norfolk, Eng
1617
March 14, 1617
Age 32
Wrentham, Suffolk, England
1618
March 26, 1618
Age 33