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  • 'Lady Frances Seymour
  • 'F, #13484, b. 18 July 1728, d. 25 January 1761
  • Last Edited=24 Mar 2007
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  • ' Lady Frances Seymour was born on 18 July 1728.1 She was the daughter of Charles Seymour, 6th Duke of Somerset and Lady Charlotte Finch. She married John Manners, Marquess of Granby, son of John Manners, 3rd Duke of Rutland and Bridget Sutton, on 3 September 1750. She died on 25 January 1761 at age 32.
  • ' Her married name became Manners.
  • 'Children of Lady Frances Seymour and John Manners, Marquess of Granby
    • 1.Frances Manners+ b. 24 Mar 1753, d. 1792
    • 2.Charles Manners, 4th Duke of Rutland+ b. 15 Mar 1754, d. 24 Oct 1787
    • 3.Captain Robert Manners b. 1758, d. 12 Apr 1782
  • Citations
  • 1.[S213] Unknown author, "unknown article title," European Royal History Journal: volume 9.6, pages 23-28.
  • From: http://thepeerage.com/p1349.htm#i13484
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  • 'General John Manners, Marquess of Granby PC, (Kelham, 2 January 1721 – 18 October 1770, Scarborough), British soldier, was the eldest son of the 3rd Duke of Rutland. As he did not outlive his father, he was known by his father's subsidiary title, Marquess of Granby. He is probably best known today for being popularly supposed to have more pubs named after him than any other person - due, it is said, to his practice of setting up old soldiers of his regiment as publicans when they were too old to serve any longer.[1]
  • He was educated at Eton and Trinity College, Cambridge,[2] and was returned as Member of Parliament for the family borough of Grantham in 1741.[3]
  • Four years later he received a commission as colonel of a regiment raised by the Duke of Rutland to assist in quelling the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745.[3] This corps never got beyond Newcastle, but young Granby went to the front as a volunteer on the Duke of Cumberland's staff, and saw active service in the last stages of the insurrection.[3] Very soon his regiment was disbanded, but he retained his rank and campaigned in Flanders in 1747.[3]
  • In 1752, the Government suggested to George II that Granby be appointed colonel of the prestigious Royal Horse Guards (Blues), in order to secure the parliamentary support of his family.[3] The king initially refused to make the appointment.[3] In the meantime, Granby advanced his parliamentary career, and was returned for Cambridgeshire in 1754.[3] Though he despised faction in government, he allied himself with Viscount Royston, the other knight of the shire, a government whig. The king came to view him more favorably, and he defended the Newcastle ministry in the House of Commons. He was promoted major-general in 1755,[3] and was at last made Colonel of the Blues in 1758.[3]
  • During the Seven Years' War Manners was sent to Germany in command of a cavalry brigade.[3] While leading a charge at the Battle of Warburg, he is said to "have lost his hat and wig, forcing him to salute his commander without them". This incident is commemorated by the British Army tradition that non-commissioned officers and troopers of the Blues and Royals are the only soldiers of the British Army who may salute without wearing headdress.[4] He was promoted to Lieutenant General in 1759: later that year he fought at the Battle of Minden as commander of the second line of cavalry.[3] He was then appointed overall commander of the expedition replacing Lord George Sackville in August 1759.[3] He went on to lead the troops to victory at the Battle of Warburg in 1760 and the Battle of Villinghausen in 1761.[3] His opponent, the duc de Broglie, was so impressed that he commissioned a portrait of Granby by Sir Joshua Reynolds.[3]
  • Granby returned to England as a hero: a painting by Edward Penny, The Marquess of Granby Relieving a Sick Soldier, showed him acting as a man of charity rather than as a soldier and this assured his appeal to the people.[3] He sought to steer a path independent of party politics but supported the Treaty of Paris.[3] He trusted George Grenville who promptly appointed him Master-General of the Ordnance under his ministry in 1763.[3]
  • Granby supported the government's issue of general warrants and prosecution of Wilkes,[3] but in 1765 spoke against the dismissal of army officers for voting against the government in Parliament.[3] In May 1765, Lord Halifax attempted to persuade George III to appoint Granby Commander-in-Chief of the Forces, in the hopes that his popularity would help quell the riot of the London silk weavers.[3] The king refused, having promised the reversion of the post to the Duke of Cumberland, but obtained Granby's retention as Master-General of the Ordnance in the new Rockingham ministry, although Granby did not co-operate with the ministry and voted against the repeal of the Stamp Act.[3]
  • Under the Chatham Ministry, Granby was appointed commander-in-chief on 13 August 1766.[3] Despite rumors of his retirement, he vigorously electioneered during the 1768 season, and increased the Rutland interests seats to seven, at some expense.[3] With the resignation of Chatham, he found himself somewhat isolated in the Grafton Ministry.[3] While he had opposed the attempts of the government to expel Wilkes from his seat in Middlesex, his personal dislike of Wilkes overcame his principles, and he voted in favor of the expulsion on 3 February 1769 and for the seating of Henry Luttrell afterwards.[3] It was to prove a serious political mistake.[3] Junius, a political writer, attacked the ministry accusing Granby of servility towards the court and personal corruption.[3] Granby's great popularity might have let him ride out the affair, but his reversal on Wilkes provided new ammunition.[3] Worse still, a reply to Junius by his friend Sir William Draper, intended in his defense, essentially validated the charge that the hard-drinking and personable Granby was easily imposed upon by less scrupulous acquaintances.[3]
  • Ultimately, it was not the attacks of Junius, but the return of Chatham that brought about his departure from politics.[3] Granby had always respected Chatham, and through the intermediation of John Calcraft, was eventually persuaded to break with the ministry.[3] On 9 January 1770, he announced that he had reversed himself once more on the propriety of expelling Wilkes, and shortly thereafter resigned as commander-in-chief and master-general of the ordnance, retaining only the colonelcy of the Blues.[3]
  • Once out of office, Granby found himself hard-pressed by his creditors, and the loss of his official salaries had weakened his financial position.[3] In the summer of 1770, he unsuccessfully campaigned for George Cockburne at the Scarborough by-election.[3]
  • Granby died at Scarborough, Yorkshire, in 1770.[3] The outpouring of grief was real and sustained.[5] His friend and associate Levett Blackborne, a Lincoln's Inn barrister and Manners family adviser who frequently resided at Belvoir, was away at the time, visiting a family relation of Manners' and received the disturbing news on his return to Belvoir. He wrote to George Vernon at Clontarf on 12 February 1771, bemoaning Granby's proclivities that had brought him to ruin:
    • "You are no stranger to the spirit of procrastination. The noblest mind that ever existed, the amiable man whom we lament was not free from it. This temper plunged him into difficulties, debts and distresses; and I have lived to see the first heir of a subject in the Kingdom have a miserable shifting life, attended by a levee of duns, and at last die broken-hearted."[6][7]
  • He had two illegitimate children by an unknown mistress:[8]
    • George Manners (c. 1746–1772)
    • Anne Manners, married John Manners-Sutton, her first cousin
  • 'He married Lady Frances Seymour (1728–1761), daughter of Charles Seymour, 6th Duke of Somerset on 3 September 1750. They had six children:
    • John Manners, Lord Roos (29 August 1751 – 2 June 1760, London)
    • Lady Frances Manners (1753 – 15 October 1792)
    • Charles Manners, 4th Duke of Rutland (1754–1787)
    • Lady Catherine Manners, died young
    • Lord Robert Manners (1758–1782)
    • Lady Caroline Manners, died young
  • References
    • This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.
    • Massie, Alastair W. (May 2006) [2004]. "Manners, John, marquess of Granby (1721–1770)". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press. http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/article/17958. Retrieved 18 October 2006.
    • Descendants of Sir Robert Manners
    • Mannings, David (2000). Sir Joshua Reynolds: a complete catalogue of his paintings. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press. pp. 321–325. ISBN 0300085338.
  • Footnotes
    • 1.^ Richard Boston "Beer and Skittles"
    • 2.^ Venn, J.; Venn, J. A., eds. (1922–1958). "John Manners, Marquess of Granby". Alumni Cantabrigienses (10 vols) (online ed.). Cambridge University Press.
    • 3.^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z aa ab ac ad ae af ag ah ai John Manners, Marquess of Granby at Oxford Dictionary of National Biography
    • 4.^ Interpretive sign at the Household Cavalry Museum in London.
    • 5.^ The Manuscripts of His Grace the Duke of Rutland, Preserved at Belvoir Castle, Charles Manners Rutland, Richard Ward, John Horace Round, Robert Campbell, Published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1889
    • 6.^ Some Account of the Military, Political and Social Life of the Right Hon. John Manners, Marquis of Granby, Walter Evelyn Manners, Macmillan & Co. Ltd., London, 1899
    • 7.^ Blackborne had served Granby's father during the Duke of Rutland's term as Lord Steward of the Household as his Steward of the Court of the Board of Green Cloth.
    • 8.^ This mistress was likely connected to Lincoln's Inn barrister Levett Blackborne, grandson of Sir Richard Levett, Lord Mayor of London, who was one of John Manners's closest advisers, as well as frequently in residence at Belvoir Castle.[1] Following the Marquess of Granby's death, Levett Blackborne wrote to Lord George Vernon, brother of the deceased Marquess of Granby: "Indeed my dear Sir this hath been a terrible stroke to the family.... I had been spending a week with my sister Chaplin at Tathwell when an itinerant clergyman... mentioned at dinner news of what happened at Scarborough the preceding Thursday.... The next morning brought me a letter from Tom Thoroton (Col. Thomas Thoroton, Levett Blackborne's stepbrother) confirming the whole and insisting on my speedy return to Belvoir, where I arrived the night after poor Lord Granby's remains had been deposited at Bottesford."[2] Other observers also confirmed that a close relationship existed between the families of Thoroton and the Manners, Dukes of Rutland. In her diary, Abigail Gawthem of Nottinghamshire commented that the woman-in-question was "mistress to the old John, Duke of Rutland, and mother to old Mrs. Thoroton of Screveton." The unexplained conjugal connection helps explain the close relationships between the Suttons, Manners, Thorotons, Levetts, Chaplins and other families. Who the woman-in-question was remains to be solved. Contemporary legal accounts confirm the illegitimacy of at least one of the Manners offspring.[3] And the subsequent lawsuit of Thoroton v. Thoroton, which arose over disputed rights of illegitimate heirs, was a landmark of case law in the field.
  • From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Manners,_Marquess_of_Granby
  • See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Seymour,_6th_Duke_of_Somerset
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Frances Manners's Timeline

1728
July 18, 1728
1750
September 3, 1750
Age 22
Oakham Castle, Rutland, England or St. George's, Hanover Square, London, Middlesex, England
1751
August 29, 1751
Age 23
Oakham Castle, Rutland, England
1753
March 24, 1753
Age 24
1754
March 15, 1754
Age 25
1758
February 6, 1758
Age 29
1761
January 25, 1761
Age 32
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