Gauthier III de Mantes, comte de Mantes (c.1030 - 1063) MP

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Birthplace: Mantes, Pays de France (Present Ile-de-France), France
Death: Died in Falaise, Duche de Normandie, France
Cause of death: Poisoned while held in captivity after losing war over claim to Maine.
Occupation: Comte de Mantes, Claimant to the County of Maine
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About Gauthier III de Mantes, comte de Mantes

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Parents:

  • Father: Dreux/Drogo de Mantes (d. 13 August 1035, somewhere west of Nicaea en route to Europe), Comte de Mantes, Comte d"Amiens
  • Mother: Godgifu/Goda of England (d. before 1049)

Siblings:

  • 2. Gauthier III de Mantes (1031-1063, poisoned at Falaise by henchmen of Guillaume II de Normandie after capture in war contesting the Comte du Maine), Comte de Mantes (1035-1063), m. Biote du Maine (poisoned to death around same time)
  • 3. Foulques de Mantes, Bishop of Amiens (possibly listed as Foulques de Valois, the nephew, served 1057-c1077)

Spouse:

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Paris Region Nobility, Chapter 7 Comte de Mantes (covering his birth family):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#RaoulHereforddied1057A

DREUX [Drogo] de Mantes (-[13 Aug] [1035]).

  • "Walterius comes" donated property "prope nostrum castellum…Medanta" to "Carnotensi monasterio Sancti Petri", for the soul of "coniugis mee Adelidis filiorumque meorum", by charter to [1006], signed by "Walterii comitis, Rodulfi filii eius, Drogonis filii eius…"[1301].
  • He succeeded his father as Comte de Mantes.
  • Comte d'Amiens. "Droco comes Ambianensium" donated property to "Sancti Petri Gismoensis" by undated charter, signed by "Droconis comitis, Eotde comitissæ, Falconis fratris comitis, Rodulfi filiii comitis, Gualterii alterius filii…"[1302].
  • He accompanied Robert II Duke of Normandy to Jerusalem and died on the journey[1303]. According to Orderic Vitalis, Henri I King of France took back the Vexin after the death of Comte Drogo[1304]. The necrology of Reims Saint-Rémi records the death "X Kal Aug" of "Drogo comes"[1305].

m ([1025 or before]) as her first husband, GODGIFU [Goda] of England, daughter of ÆTHELRED II "the Unready" King of England & his second wife Emma de Normandie (-before 1049).

  • Her parentage is stated by Orderic Vitalis, who says that Godgifu went into exile in Normandy with her brother[1306] in 1013. According to Orderic Vitalis, her first marriage was arranged by Robert II Duke of Normandy[1307], indicating that she probably did not return to England. This information is suspect, assuming that the charter of "Robertus Rex", which names "Comes Drogo…cum duobus fratribus Fulcone…et Rodulpho necnon uxore cum filiis supra memorati Drogonis", is correctly dated to 1025 as Duke Robert did not succeed as duke until 1027[1308].
  • Another possibility is that Drogo's children at that date were born from an earlier otherwise unrecorded marriage. There is no indication of the birth dates of his known children shown below, but the fact that none of them was given a typically Anglo-Saxon name also suggests that Godgifu may not have been the mother of all of them (although she is attested as mother of the son Raoul, see below).
  • "Droco comes Ambianensium" donated property to "Sancti Petri Gismoensis" by undated charter, signed by "Droconis comitis, Eotde comitissæ, Falconis fratris comitis, Rodulfi filiii comitis, Gualterii alterius filii…"[1309].
  • Godgifu married secondly ([1036]) as his first wife, Eustache [II] Comte de Boulogne . Her second marriage is referred to by Florence of Worcester[1310].

Comte Drogo & his wife had three children:

a) RAOUL de Mantes (-21 Dec 1057, bur Peterborough).

  • His parentage is given by Orderic Vitalis[1311].
  • Florence of Worcester calls Raoul the "son of King Edward's sister"[1312]. "Droco comes Ambianensium" donated property to "Sancti Petri Gismoensis" by undated charter, signed by "Droconis comitis, Eotde comitissæ, Falconis fratris comitis, Rodulfi filiii comitis, Gualterii alterius filii…"[1313]. Simeon of Durham names "earl Rodulph the son of king Eadward's sister Goda" in 1051[1314].
  • Earl of Hereford.

b) GAUTHIER [III] de Mantes (before [29 Mar 1030/10 Apr 1031]-poisoned Falaise [2 Aug] 1063).

  • His parentage is given by Orderic Vitalis, who lists him after his brother Raoul[1315]. "Drogo comes" agreed to donate property to Jumièges by charter dated to [29 Mar 1030/10 Apr 1031] subscribed by "Walterii filius eius"[1316]. "Droco comes Ambianensium" donated property to "Sancti Petri Gismoensis" by undated charter, signed by "Droconis comitis, Eotde comitissæ, Falconis fratris comitis, Rodulfi filiii comitis, Gualterii alterius filii…"[1317].
  • He succeeded his father in 1035 as Comte de Mantes.
  • "Comes Walterius" confirmed a donation of property, held by "pater meus Droco comes", to "cœnobii sancti Petri Carnotensis" by charter dated Feb 1055, witnessed by "Teduinus vicecomes Mellentis castri, Gualo vicecomes castri Calidi Montis…"[1318]. "Comes Gualterius" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 22 Jan 1060 which names "pater meus Drogo comes"[1319].
  • He claimed the county of Maine, by right of his wife, after the death in Mar 1062 of her nephew Héribert [II] Comte du Maine and took possession[1320]. Guillaume II Duke of Normandy defeated and imprisoned him end-1063.
  • Orderic Vitalis records that Gauthier and his wife died "poisoned - so the rumour goes - by the evil machinations of their enemies", and that Duke Guillaume took control over Maine after this[1321]. The necrology of Saint-Père-en-Vallée records the death "IV Non Aug" of "Gualterius comes"[1322], which may refer to Comte Gauthier [III].
  • m BIOTE du Maine, daughter of HERIBERT [I] "Eveille-Chien" Comte du Maine & his wife --- (-poisoned Falaise 1063). Guillaume de Poitiers names "la sœur de Hugues" as wife of "Gautier comte de Mantes", when recording the latter's claim to Maine[1323]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.

c) FOULQUES de Mantes . His parentage is given by Orderic Vitalis, who lists him after his two brothers and specifies that he was Bishop of Amiens[1324].

References:

  • [1301] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Septimus, Cap. XLIII, p. 170.
  • [1302] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Septimus, Cap. XLVI, p. 173.
  • [1303] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. II, Book III, p. 117, and Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
  • [1304] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
  • [1305] 'Obits mémorables tirés de nécrologes luxembourgeois, rémois et messins', Revue Mabillon VI (1910-1911), p. 274.
  • [1306] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
  • [1307] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
  • [1308] RHGF X, L, p. 622.
  • [1309] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Septimus, Cap. XLVI, p. 173.
  • [1310] Forester, T. (trans.) (1854) The Chronicles of Florence of Worcester with two continuations (London), 1051, p. 150.
  • [1311] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
  • [1312] Florence of Worcester 1055, p. 157.
  • [1313] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Septimus, Cap. XLVI, p. 173.
  • [1314] Stevenson, J. (trans.) (1855) The Historical Works of Simeon of Durham (London) (“Simeon of Durham”), p. 535.
  • [1315] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
  • [1316] Vernier, J. J. (ed.) (1916) Chartes de l'abbaye de Jumièges, Tome I c 825-1169 (Rouen, Paris) 14, p. 46.
  • [1317] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Septimus, Cap. XLVI, p. 173.
  • [1318] Chartres Saint-Père I, Liber Septimus, Cap. LXXIV, p. 199.
  • [1319] Chartres Saint-Père, II, Codex Diplomaticus Pars Tertia ex Schedis D. Muley, 4, p. 625.
  • [1320] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. II, Book III, p. 117.
  • [1321] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. II, Book III, p. 119.
  • [1322] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de Saint-Père-enVallée, p. 193.
  • [1323] Davis, R. H. C. and Chibnall. M. (eds. and trans.) (1998) The Gesta Guillelmi of William of Poitiers (Oxford), p. 362.
  • [1324] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
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Gauthier III de Mantes, comte de Mantes's Timeline

1030
March 29, 1030
Mantes, Pays de France (Present Ile-de-France), France
1063
August 2, 1063
Age 33
Falaise, Duche de Normandie, France
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