Gilbert “Crispin”, Comte de Brionne

Parents: Geoffroi de Brionne & his (unknown) wife

Spouse: (Gunnor d'Aunou?)

Children:

1. Richard, married Rohese Giffard

2. Guillaume

3. Bauduoin

4. Adela m. Neel II (IV) de Saint Sauveur, Vct de Cotentin

LINKS

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GeoffreyBrionnedied1015B

MEDIEVAL LANDS

GILBERT de Brionne "Crespin" ([979/1000]-murdered [Mar] 1040). Guillaume de Jumièges names "le comte Gilbert fils du comte Godefroi", recording that he was Comte d'Eu after his father before being murdered[1321]. Named as son of "Godfrey" by Orderic Vitalis[1322]. Comte d'Eu. "Gislebertus filius Godefridi comitis…" witnessed the charter dated to [1030] under which Robert II Duke of Normandy confirmed rights of Mont Saint-Michel[1323]. He was appointed guardian of Guillaume II Duke of Normandy after the death in 1040 of Alain III Duke of Brittany[1324]. He invaded Le Vimeu but was defeated by Enguerrand Comte de Ponthieu[1325]. He was murdered by his cousin Raoul de Waco, after which Brionne was kept by Guillaume II Duke of Normandy[1326]. Robert of Torigny names "Radulfo de Waceio filio Roberti archiepiscopi Rothomagensis" as murderer of "Gislebertus filius…Godefridi"[1327]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Raoul de Vacé, fils de Robert l'archevêque…et…Robert fils de Giroie" were those responsible for the murder of Gilbert Comte d'Eu[1328]. The necrology of Saint-Nicaise de Meulan records the death of "Gislebertus comes Briognensis", undated but listed among other deaths recorded in Mar[1329].

m ---. The name of Gilbert's wife is not known.

Gilbert & his wife had four children:

a) RICHARD de Brionne (before 1035-[Apr] [1090], bur St Neots, Huntingdonshire). Guillaume de Jumièges names "Richard" as sons of "le comte Gilbert fils du comte Godefroi", recording that he made donations to the church of Bec with his own sons[1330]. He and his brother are named sons of Gilbert de Brionne by Orderic Vitalis, recording that they took refuge in Flanders after their father was murdered[1331]. Seigneur de Bienfaite et d'Orbec, after Guillaume II Duke of Normandy restored them to him after being requested to do so by his father-in-law Baudouin V Count of Flanders[1332]. Lord of Clare and Tonbridge. Regent of England 1075.

- UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY.

b) GUILLAUME de Brionne (-after 29 Aug 1060). "Milite…Richardo…fratribus Willelmo…atque Balduino" donated "Gausberti Villa" to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated 29 Aug 1060, which states that "Nigello" married "sororem suam", witnessed by "Willelmus filius Osberti, Walterius Giffardus…Rodbertus Bertrannus, Willelmo Marmio…Willelmus Corbucionis filius…Raberius et Willelmus de Vernone…Bernardus filius Vulmari"[1333].

c) BAUDOUIN de Brionne (-[Feb] 1090). He and his brother are named as sons of Gilbert de Brionne by Orderic Vitalis, recording that they took refuge in Flanders after their father was murdered[1334]. Seigneur de Sap et de Meules, Normandy, after Guillaume II Duke of Normandy restored them to him after being requested to do so by his father-in-law Baudouin V Count of Flanders[1335]. After the Norman conquest of England, William I King of England gave Baudouin about 160 lordships in Devon, Dorset and Somerset, among which he became Lord of Okehampton, Devon. “…Halduini [Balduini?] filii comitis Gilberti…” witnessed the charter dated 1082 under which William I King of England granted land at Covenham to the church of St Calais[1336]. Sheriff of Devon 1080 to 1086. The necrology of Saint-Nicaise de Meulan records the death of "Baldoinus filius comitis", undated but listed among deaths recorded in Feb[1337].

m ALBERADE, daughter of ---. Orderic Vitalis describes Alberade as the daughter of the amita of William II King of England[1338]. The Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey records that “dominus Baldewinus de Brionis” married “Albredam neptem domini Willelmi Bastardi…ducis Normanniæ”[1339]. Her precise parentage has not yet been ascertained.

d) ADELA ). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the charter dated 29 Aug 1060 under which "milite…Richardo…fratribus Willelmo…atque Balduino" donated "Gausberti Villa" to Chartres Saint-Père, which states that "Nigello" married "sororem suam", witnessed by "Willelmus filius Osberti, Walterius Giffardus…Rodbertus Bertrannus, Willelmo Marmio…Willelmus Corbucionis filius…Raberius et Willelmus de Vernone…Bernardus filius Vulmari"[1351]. m NEEL Vicomte [de Cotentin], son of NEEL [I] Vicomte [de Cotentin] & his wife --- (-Aug 1092).

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Died in 1040, said to have been murdered by his cousin, Ralph of Gacé (Wace)

For a short period in the autumn of 1040 following the sudden death (murder?) of Count Alan of

Brittany, Gilbert was chief tutor to the young William the Conqueror.

Gilbert had the following

sons:

· Richard FitzGilbert de Clare, mentioned next.

· Baldwin FitzGilbert

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Gilbert or Giselbert "Crispin", (1000-1040) was a Norman noble, Count of Eu, and Count of Brionne in northern France.

Parentage

The reference listed below states he was the son of Geoffrey, Count of Eu (b. 962) who was an illegitimate child of Richard the Fearless. Some sources say Gislebert was the son of Godfrey of Brionne and Eu, others that he was the son of Gilbert, Baron of Bec. Still others claim that his father was Crispin de Bec (b. 940). Gislebert's mother was apparently Haloise de Guînes (b. 942).

Life

Whatever his parentage, he inherited Brionne, becoming one of the most powerful landowners in Normandy. He married Gunnora d'Aunou (Gunmore d'Ainon) in 1012. He had children by his wife and a mistress. The name "Crispin" is said to have referred to the family's erect curly hair.

Gislebert was a generous benefactor to Bec Abbey founded by his former knight Herluin in 1031.

When Robert II, Duke of Normandy died in 1035 his illegitimate son William inherited his father's title. Several leading Normans, including Gilbert of Brionne, Osbern the Seneschal and Alan of Brittany, became William's guardians.

Death

A number of Norman barons including Raoul de Gacé would not accept an illegitimate son as their leader. In 1040 an attempt was made to kill William but the plot failed. Gilbert however was murdered while he was peaceably riding near Eschafour. It is believed two of his killers were Ralph of Wacy and Robert de Vitot. This appears to have been an act of vengeance for wrongs inflicted upon the orphan children of Giroie by Gilbert, and it is not clear what Raoul de Gacé had to do in the business. Fearing they might meet their father's fate, his sons Richard and his brother Baldwin were conveyed by their friends to the court of Baldwin, Count of Flanders.

Children

Gilbert was the great progenitor of the illustrious house of Candia of the Viscount of Geneva and in England of the illustrious house of de Clare, of the Barons Fitz Walter, and the Earls of Gloucester and Hertford.

Esilia Crispin, (1028-1072), m. William Malet, Seigneur of Granville, (ca. 1042).

Roger Crispin de Candiæ, (1029-10--), m. Lady of Burgundes, Seigneur of Chateau de Candie in Chambery, latter Viscount of Geneva; founder of the family de Candiæ.

Sir Richard Fitz Gilbert (1030-1090), m. Rohese Giffard (1034-1133)

Baldwin FitzGilbert (d. 1090)

References

The Royal Ancestry Bible Royal ancestors of 300 American Families By Michel L. Call ISBN 1-933194-22-7 (chart 1696)

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Count Gilbert "Crispin" de Brionne - was born about 0979 and died about 1040 . He was the son of Duke Godfrey de Brionne.

Count Gilbert married Constance de Eu. She is the daughter of William Eu and Beatrice Goz.

Count Gilbert - - Count of Brionne, in Normandy

Children: (Quick Family Chart)

i. Earl Richard "De Tonbridge" FitzGilbert was born about 1024, lived in Bienfaite, Normandy, France and died about 1090 in St. Neots, Huntingdonshire, England .

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Gilbert, Count of Brionne, Gilbert or Giselbert "Crispin", (1000-1040) was a Norman noble, Count of Eu, and Count of Brionne in northern France.

Parentage

The reference listed below states he was the son of Geoffrey, Count of Eu (b. 962), also known as Godfrey of Brionne and Eu) who was an illegitimate child of Richard the Fearless. Some sources say Gislebert was the son of Gilbert, Baron of Bec. Still others claim that his father was Crispin de Bec (b. 940). Gislebert's mother was apparently Haloise de Guînes (b. 942).

Whatever his parentage, he inherited Brionne, becoming one of the most powerful landowners in Normandy. He married Gunnora d'Aunou (Gunmore d'Ainon) in 1012. He had children by his wife and a mistress. The name "Crispin" is said to have referred to the family's erect curly hair. Gislebert was a generous benefactor to Bec Abbey founded by his former knight Herluin in 1031.

When Robert II, Duke of Normandy died in 1035 his illegitimate son William inherited his father's title. Several leading Normans, including Gilbert of Brionne, Osbern the Seneschal and Alan of Brittany, became William's guardians.

A number of Norman barons including Raoul de Gacé would not accept an illegitimate son as their leader. In 1040 an attempt was made to kill William but the plot failed. Gilbert however was murdered while he was peaceably riding near Eschafour. It is believed two of his killers were Ralph of Wacy and Robert de Vitot. This appears to have been an act of vengeance for wrongs inflicted upon the orphan children of Giroie by Gilbert, and it is not clear what Raoul de Gacé had to do in the business. Fearing they might meet their father's fate, his sons Richard and his brother Baldwin were conveyed by their friends to the court of Baldwin, Count of Flanders.

Children

Gilbert was the great progenitor of the illustrious house of Candia of the Viscount of Geneva and in England of the illustrious house of de Clare, of the Barons Fitz Walter, and the Earls of Gloucester and Hertford.

   * Esilia Crispin, (1028-1072), m. William Malet, Seigneur of Granville, (ca. 1042).

   * Roger Crispin de Candiæ, (1029-10--), m. Lady of Burgundes, Seigneur of Chateau de Candie in Chambery, latter Viscount of Geneva; founder of the family de Candiæ.

   * Sir Richard Fitz Gilbert (1030-1090), m. Rohese Giffard (1034-aft. 1113)

   * Baldwin FitzGilbert (d. 1090)

References

   * The Royal Ancestry Bible Royal ancestors of 300 American Families By Michel L. Call ISBN 1-933194-22-7 (chart 1696)

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There is a great deal of disagreement and there has been much confusion about one or several Gilberts (Giselbertus) who were living in Normandy in the early 11th century, one or more of whom may have been called "Crispin". It appears that some historical sources have merged all of these into one while others keep them separate. The same children (and wives, in many cases) have been attributed to any and all, which males it very difficult to esptablish any credible family lineages. One, the most historically prominent due to his murder, was Gilbert, the Count de Brionne et d"Eu. Another is sometimes attributed as the Baron of Bec, while a fourth title is that of Castellan or Seigneur de Tillieres. Finally, the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy's Medieval Lands Project has a category for "Untitled English Nobility" and includes "Crispin" as among this group [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3.htm#_Toc222722378. In this research, based on a 12th century manuscript by Miles Crispin, the Gilbert and Gunnora who were the parents of Hesilia (Esilia) who married Sir William Malet were not Gilbert Count of Brione and Gunnora D'Aunou, as many claim, but were:

"Gislebertus" who was the first named "Crispini" because of his erect hair [and] GUNNORA, daughter of BALDRIC & his wife ---. The De nobili genere Crispinorum records that "Gislebertus…Crispini cognomen" married "senioris Fulconis de Alnou germanam…Gonnorem"[325]. The identity of her father is confirmed by Orderic Vitalis who names "…Fulco de Alnou…" as one of the sons of Baldric[326].

The following Wikipedia article, however, states that Esilia's father was Gilbert de Brionne. However, FMG's research puts this Gilbert as the son of Geoffroy de Brionne, illegitimate son of Richard I Duke of Normandy, and not the son of Crispin de Bec. As the wikipedia article does make clear, however, the parentage of Gilbert de Brionne has been debated.

Here is FMG's profile of Gilbert de Brionne:

GILBERT de Brionne "Crespin" ([979/1000]-murdered [Mar] 1040). Guillaume de Jumièges names "le comte Gilbert fils du comte Godefroi", recording that he was Comte d'Eu after his father before being murdered. Named as son of "Godfrey" by Orderic Vitalis. Comte d'Eu. "Gislebertus filius Godefridi comitis…" witnessed the charter dated to [1030] under which Robert II Duke of Normandy confirmed rights of Mont Saint-Michel. He was appointed guardian of Guillaume II Duke of Normandy after the death in 1040 of Alain III Duke of Brittany. He invaded Le Vimeu but was defeated by Enguerrand Comte de Ponthieu. He was murdered by his cousin Raoul de Waco, after which Brionne was kept by Guillaume II Duke of Normandy. Robert of Torigny names "Radulfo de Waceio filio Roberti archiepiscopi Rothomagensis" as murderer of "Gislebertus filius…Godefridi". Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Raoul de Vacé, fils de Robert l'archevêque…et…Robert fils de Giroie" were those responsible for the murder of Gilbert Comte d'Eu. The necrology of Saint-Nicaise de Meulan records the death of "Gislebertus comes Briognensis", undated but listed among other deaths recorded in Mar. m ---. The name of Gilbert's wife is not known. Gilbert & his wife had three children:

a) RICHARD de Brionne (before 1035-[Apr] [1090], bur St Neots, Huntingdonshire). Guillaume de Jumièges names "Richard" as sons of "le comte Gilbert fils du comte Godefroi", recording that he made donations to the church of Bec with his own sons. He and his brother are named sons of Gilbert de Brionne by Orderic Vitalis, recording that they took refuge in Flanders after their father was murdered

b) GUILLAUME de Brionne (-after 29 Aug 1060).

c) BAUDOUIN de Brionne (-[Feb] 1090).

Gilbert, Count of Brionne

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gilbert or Giselbert "Crispin", (1000-1040) was a Norman noble, Count of Eu, and Count of Brionne in northern France.

Parentage

The reference listed below states he was the son of Geoffrey, Count of Eu (b. 962) who was an illegitimate child of Richard the Fearless. Some sources say Gislebert was the son of Godfrey of Brionne and Eu, others that he was the son of Gilbert, Baron of Bec. Still others claim that his father was Crispin de Bec (b. 940). Gislebert's mother was apparently Haloise de Guînes (b. 942).

Life

Whatever his parentage, he inherited Brionne, becoming one of the most powerful landowners in Normandy. He married Gunnora d'Aunou (Gunmore d'Ainon) in 1012. He had children by his wife and a mistress. The name "Crispin" is said to have referred to the family's erect curly hair.

Gislebert was a generous benefactor to Bec Abbey founded by his former knight Herluin in 1031.

When Robert II, Duke of Normandy died in 1035 his illegitimate son William inherited his father's title. Several leading Normans, including Gilbert of Brionne, Osbern the Seneschal and Alan of Brittany, became William's guardians.

Death

A number of Norman barons including Raoul de Gacé would not accept an illegitimate son as their leader. In 1040 an attempt was made to kill William but the plot failed. Gilbert however was murdered while he was peaceably riding near Eschafour. It is believed two of his killers were Ralph of Wacy and Robert de Vitot. This appears to have been an act of vengeance for wrongs inflicted upon the orphan children of Giroie by Gilbert, and it is not clear what Raoul de Gacé had to do in the business. Fearing they might meet their father's fate, his sons Richard and his brother Baldwin were conveyed by their friends to the court of Baldwin, Count of Flanders.

Children

Gilbert was the great progenitor of the illustrious house of Candia of the Viscount of Geneva and in England of the illustrious house of de Clare, of the Barons Fitz Walter, and the Earls of Gloucester and Hertford.

   * Esilia Crispin, (1028-1072), m. William Malet, Seigneur of Granville, (ca. 1042).

   * Roger Crispin de Candiæ, (1029-10--), m. Lady of Burgundes, Seigneur of Chateau de Candie in Chambery, latter Viscount of Geneva; founder of the family de Candiæ.

   * Sir Richard Fitz Gilbert (1030-1090), m. Rohese Giffard (1034-aft. 1113)

   * Baldwin FitzGilbert (d. 1090)

References

   * The Royal Ancestry Bible Royal ancestors of 300 American Families By Michel L. Call ISBN 1-933194-22-7 (chart 1696)

---Pam Wilson, 7-18-2009

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Gilbert de BRUINE Count of Brionne, Normandy Count of Brionne, Eu (-1040) [Pedigree]

Son of Godfrey de BRUINE Count of Eu and Brionne (953-1015) and Hawise

   b. Normandy, France

   d. 1040 (MURDERED)

Married Gunnora

Children:

  1. Richard FitzGilbert de CLARE Lord of Clare & Tonbridge (1035-1090) m. Rohese GIFFARD (-1113)

  2. Baldwin Count Meulan, Baron Okehampton, Lord de la Sap, Nehou (1040-1090)

  3. Elise CRISPIN (-1072) m. William MALET seigneur of Graville (-1071) 

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Gilbert, Count of Brionne

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Gilbert or Giselbert "Crispin", (1000-1040) was a Norman noble, Count of Eu, and Count of Brionne in northern France.

Contents

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   * 1 Parentage

   * 2 Life

   * 3 Death

   * 4 Children

   * 5 References

[edit] Parentage

The reference listed below states he was the son of Geoffrey, Count of Eu (b. 962) who was an illegitimate child of Richard the Fearless. Some sources say Gislebert was the son of Godfrey of Brionne and Eu, others that he was the son of Gilbert, Baron of Bec. Still others claim that his father was Crispin de Bec (b. 940). Gislebert's mother was apparently Haloise de Guînes (b. 942).

Life

Whatever his parentage, he inherited Brionne, becoming one of the most powerful landowners in Normandy. He married Gunnora d'Aunou (Gunmore d'Ainon) in 1012. He had children by his wife and a mistress. The name "Crispin" is said to have referred to the family's erect curly hair.

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Arms: fuzele d'argent & de gueules.

Gilbert de Brionne dit Crespin, baron du Bec-Crespin1

    Castellan of Tillières at the Vexin.2 Arms: fuzele d'argent & de gueules.3 Also called Gilbert Crespin.1 Gilbert de Brionne dit Crespin, baron du Bec-Crespin married Gunnor d'Aunou, daughter of N. N. d'Aunou.1

Family

Gunnor d'Aunou

Children

   * Guillaume Crespin I, seigneur du Bec-Crespin+ 1

   * Elise Crespin+ b. c 10312,1

Citations

  1. [S1345] Anselme de Sainte-Marie (augustin déchaussé), Pere Anselme's Histoire, 3rd Ed., VI:632.

  2. [S1278] K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants, pg. 1022.

  3. [S1345] Anselme de Sainte-Marie (augustin déchaussé), Pere Anselme's Histoire, 3rd Ed., VI:631.

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Gilbert CRISPIN 1, 2 was born 995 in Tillieres, Eure, France. He married Gunnor on 1021 in Tillieres, Eure, France.

Gunnor 1, 2 was born 999 in Tillieres, Eure, France. She married Gilbert CRISPIN on 1021 in Tillieres, Eure, France.

They had the following children:

     		F 	i 	Esilia CRISPIN was born 1022 and died 1087.

     		M 	ii 	William CRISPIN was born 1025 and died Jan 1074.

Sources:

   1Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166 (Woodbridge: The Boydell Press, 1999.), p. 193, Los Angeles Public Library, Gen 942.02 K25.

   2Hart, Cyril, "William Malet and His Family," Anglo-Norman Studies, v. 19 (1996) (New England Historic, Genealogical Society.), pp. 123-165, Library of Congress, DA195 .B33a.

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Gilbert, Count of Brionne

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gilbert or Giselbert "Crispin", (1000-1040) was a Norman noble, Count of Eu, and Count of Brionne in northern France.

Parentage

The reference listed below states he was the son of Geoffrey, Count of Eu (b. 962) who was an illegitimate child of Richard the Fearless. Some sources say Gislebert was the son of Godfrey of Brionne and Eu, others that he was the son of Gilbert, Baron of Bec. Still others claim that his father was Crispin de Bec (b. 940). Gislebert's mother was apparently Haloise de Guînes (b. 942).

Life

Whatever his parentage, he inherited Brionne, becoming one of the most powerful landowners in Normandy. He married Gunnora d'Aunou (Gunmore d'Ainon) in 1012. He had children by his wife and a mistress. The name "Crispin" is said to have referred to the family's erect curly hair.

Gislebert was a generous benefactor to Bec Abbey founded by his former knight Herluin in 1031.

When Robert II, Duke of Normandy died in 1035 his illegitimate son William inherited his father's title. Several leading Normans, including Gilbert of Brionne, Osbern the Seneschal and Alan of Brittany, became William's guardians.

[edit]Death

A number of Norman barons including Raoul de Gacé would not accept an illegitimate son as their leader. In 1040 an attempt was made to kill William but the plot failed. Gilbert however was murdered while he was peaceably riding near Eschafour. It is believed two of his killers were Ralph of Wacy and Robert de Vitot. This appears to have been an act of vengeance for wrongs inflicted upon the orphan children of Giroie by Gilbert, and it is not clear what Raoul de Gacé had to do in the business. Fearing they might meet their father's fate, his sons Richard and his brother Baldwin were conveyed by their friends to the court of Baldwin, Count of Flanders.

[edit]Children

Gilbert was the great progenitor of the illustrious house of Candia of the Viscount of Geneva and in England of the illustrious house of de Clare, of the Barons Fitz Walter, and the Earls of Gloucester and Hertford.

Esilia Crispin, (1028-1072), m. William Malet, Seigneur of Granville, (ca. 1042).

Roger Crispin de Candiæ, (1029-10--), m. Lady of Burgundes, Seigneur of Chateau de Candie in Chambery, latter Viscount of Geneva; founder of the family de Candiæ.

Sir Richard Fitz Gilbert (1030-1090), m. Rohese Giffard (1034-1133)

Baldwin FitzGilbert (d. 1090)

[edit]References

The Royal Ancestry Bible Royal ancestors of 300 American Families By Michel L. Call ISBN 1-933194-22-7 (chart 1696)

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Gilbert or Giselbert "Crispin", (1000-1040) was a Norman noble, Count of Eu, and Count of Brionne in northern France.

Parentage

The reference listed below states he was the son of Geoffrey, Count of Eu (b. 962) who was an illegitimate child of Richard the Fearless. Some sources say Gislebert was the son of Godfrey of Brionne and Eu, others that he was the son of Gilbert, Baron of Bec. Still others claim that his father was Crispin de Bec (b. 940). Gislebert's mother was apparently Haloise de Guînes (b. 942).

Life

Whatever his parentage, he inherited Brionne, becoming one of the most powerful landowners in Normandy. He married Gunnora d'Aunou (Gunmore d'Ainon) in 1012. He had children by his wife and a mistress. The name "Crispin" is said to have referred to the family's erect curly hair.

Gislebert was a generous benefactor to Bec Abbey founded by his former knight Herluin in 1031.

When Robert II, Duke of Normandy died in 1035 his illegitimate son William inherited his father's title. Several leading Normans, including Gilbert of Brionne, Osbern the Seneschal and Alan of Brittany, became William's guardians.

Death

A number of Norman barons including Raoul de Gacé would not accept an illegitimate son as their leader. In 1040 an attempt was made to kill William but the plot failed. Gilbert however was murdered while he was peaceably riding near Eschafour. It is believed two of his killers were Ralph of Wacy and Robert de Vitot. This appears to have been an act of vengeance for wrongs inflicted upon the orphan children of Giroie by Gilbert, and it is not clear what Raoul de Gacé had to do in the business. Fearing they might meet their father's fate, his sons Richard and his brother Baldwin were conveyed by their friends to the court of Baldwin, Count of Flanders.

Children

Gilbert was the great progenitor of the illustrious house of Candia of the Viscount of Geneva and in England of the illustrious house of de Clare, of the Barons Fitz Walter, and the Earls of Gloucester and Hertford.

Esilia Crispin, (1028-1072), m. William Malet, Seigneur of Granville, (ca. 1042).

Roger Crispin de Candiæ, (1029-10--), m. Lady of Burgundes, Seigneur of Chateau de Candie in Chambery, latter Viscount of Geneva; founder of the family de Candiæ.

Sir Richard Fitz Gilbert (1030-1090), m. Rohese Giffard (1034-1133)

Baldwin FitzGilbert (d. 1090)

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Gilbert may not be Richard's father. Gilbert was the husband of Richard's mother, Herleva, but she also began having an affair with Robert "the Devil" around 1023. Sources as far back as the Annals of the Four Masters claim that Richard's great grandson, Richard "Strongbow", was the direct descendant of Robert "the Devil". Gilbert "Crispin" is a descendant of Robert's cousin, but not Robert himself.

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Tutor to Wm the Conqueror

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Gilbert or Giselbert "Crispin", (1000-1040) was a Norman noble, Count of Eu, and Count of Brionne in northern France.

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Gilbert "Crispin" Comte de Brionne

born about 0979 Normandy, France

died 1023 France

father:

• Geoffroy Comte d'Eu & Brionne

born about 0953 Brionne, Normandie

died about 1015

siblings:

• Adela d'Eu born about 1021 St. Saveur, Normandie, France
• son of Geoffroy Comte d'Eu & Brionne

spouse:

• Gunnora d'Aunou (Anjou)

born about 0984 France

children:

• Richard "de Tonbridge" "de Clare" Fitzgilbert

born about 1024 Bienfaite, Normandy, France

christened Brionne, Normandy, France

died about 1090 St Neot's, Huntingdonshire, England

buried Priory, St Neot's, Huntingdonshire, England

• Baldwin Fitzgilbert born about 1022 Meules, Normandy, France

christened Okehampton, Devonshire, England died 1090

• Hesila Crispin born about 1030 died about 1060
• Gilbert Seigneur de Tellieres born before 1038 Normandy, France

died after 1058

-------------------- Gilbert I* CRISPIN (Earl de Brionne & Eu)

1000 - 1054

   * TITLE: Earl de Brionne & Eu

   * BIRTH: 1000, Tillieres,Anjou,France

   * DEATH: 1054 

Father: Godfrey* DE BRIONNE

Mother: Hawise* Heloise DE GUINES

Family 1 : Gunnora* D'AUNOU

  1. +Richard* FitzGilbert de Tonebrugh DE CLARE

  2. +William DE BRAOSE

  3. +Hesila* Elisie CRISPIN

  4. +Baldwin* FITZGILBERT 

Family 2 : Herleva* DE FALAISE -------------------- Gilbert or Giselbert "Crispin", (1000-1040) was a Norman noble, Count of Eu, and Count of Brionne in northern France. -------------------- Gilbert was our ancestor through two different descent lines--both through his son William FitzGilbert and through his daughter Elise, each of whom was our ancestor.

See "My Lines"

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p340.htm#i7083 )

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm ) -------------------- Gilbert, Count of Brionne; benefactor of the Abbey of Bec in Normandy.[Burke's Peerage]

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Gilbert, Earl of Brion, had two sons, Richard, ancestor of the house ofClare, and Baldwin d e Brionis. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and ExtinctPeerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p . 139, Courtenay, BaronsCourtenay, Earls of Devon]

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Gislebert, surnamed Crispin, Earl of Brion, in Normandy, whose eldest son[was] Richard FitzGi lbert. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and ExtinctPeerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 118 , Clare, Lords of Clare,Earls of Hertford, Earls of Gloucester]

!CONFLICT: Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came to New England between 1623 and 1650 , Frederick Lewis Weis, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1992 (STATES Gilbert, Ct. Brienne ) Chapman Family History, Beauchamp William Chapman, private publishing, 1987 (states Gisle bert, Count of Eu and Brionne and a descendent of Emp. CHARLEMAGNE.)

Gilbert, Count of Brionne, who was son of Godfrey, Count of Brionne, illegitimate son of Rich ard I, the Fearless, Duke of Normandy. [Magna Charta Sureties, line 157-1]

Gilbert, Count of Brionne; benefactor of the Abbey of Bec in Normandy. [Burke's Peerage]

Gilbert, Earl of Brion, had two sons, Richard, ancestor of the house of Clare, and Baldwin d e Brionis. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p . 139, Courtenay, Barons Courtenay, Earls of Devon]

Gislebert, surnamed Crispin, Earl of Brion, in Normandy, whose eldest son [was] Richard FitzG ilbert. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 1 18, Clare, Lords of Clare, Earls of Hertford, Earls of Gloucester]

Note: I have Gilbert Crispin of Tillieres and Gilbert Count of Brionne as two different peopl e.

Sources: 1.Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968 Page: 94 2.Title: The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5t h Edition, 1999 Page: 157-1 3.Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999 Page: 1069 4.Repository: Name: Family History Library Salt Lake City, UT 84150

Title: Ancestral Roots Of Sixty Colonists Who Came To New England Between 1623 And 1650 Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc., 1992 5.Repository: Name: Sutro Library

Title: Chapman Family History Author: Chapman, Beauchamp William Publication: (a Private Publishing) 1987 6.Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Ed ition, 1999 Page: 157-1 7.Title: The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5t h Edition, 1999 Page: 157

-------------------- "For a short period in the autumn of 1040 following the sudden death of Count Alan of Brittany, Gilbert was chief tutor to the young William the Conqueror. Died in 1040, said to have been murdered by his cousin, Ralph of Gacé" "Count Gilbert was one of the guardians of the young Duke William, and was murdered by assassins employed by Raoul de Gacé, as already related in the memoir of the Conqueror. Orderic gives us the name of one of the assassins -- Robert de Vitot; and Guillaume de Jumièges tells us that two of the family of Giroie fell upon and murdered him when he was peaceably riding near Eschafour, expecting no evil."