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Griffin de Warren (Warenne)

Nicknames: "Griffin de Whitchurch"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Ightfield, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom
Death: Died in Newbourne, Woodbridge, Suffolk Co, England.
Immediate Family:

Son of John de Warenne, 6th Earl of Surrey and Audelin de Albo Monasterio/Whitchurch
Husband of Wynifreda Warren
Father of John de Warren
Half brother of Alice PERCY; Eleanor de Warenne, Vicomtesse de Surrey; Isabella de Warenne, Baroness of Bywell and Sir William de Warenne

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About Griffin de Warren (Warenne)

Research Question: Is Griffin de Warenne really Griffen de la Pole? http://books.google.com/books?id=tcQ_AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=Griffin+de+Whitchurch&source=bl&ots=WR7JlVKaqs&sig=JbDDct4Wq1mMAWO8ReQs_4ldmXQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=FqJHU4iCFYqu8AGTsoGoAw&ved=0CG8Q6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Griffin%20de%20Whitchurch&f=false The de la Poole name was taken when they became lords of Powys, under the English King. AKA Griffin of Whitchurch

William de WHITCHURCH [Parents] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 was born 1199 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England. He died Mar 1253 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England. William married Eve FITZ WARIN on 1241 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

Also:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hwbradley/aqwg782.htm#12858 Other marriages: AUDLEY, Amice de Eve FITZ WARIN [Parents] 1, 2, 3, 4 was born 1216 in Whittington, Shropshire, England. She married William de WHITCHURCH on 1241 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

Other marriages: IORWERTH, Llywelyn "The Great" ab They had the following children:

		F	i	 Joan de WHITCHURCH was born 1242 and died after Jan 1293.
		F	ii	 Maud de WHITCHURCH was born 1244.
		F	iii	 Eve de WHITCHURCH was born 1246.
		F	iv	 Eleanor de WHITCHURCH was born 1248 and died 1305.
		M	v	 Griffin WARREN was born 1251 and died 1285.

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   * Illegitimate Son of John de Warenne, 7th Earl of Surrey
   * Born abt. 1288 in Arundel, England.
   * Died in Newbourne, Woodbridge, Suffolk Co, England. 

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From the information I have, the first Griffen Warren was a natural son of The 6th Earl of Warren and Surrey but not by his wife and therefore illegitimate. The name of his mother seems to have been lost but this is a known line and further details together with family trees can be found in "Memoirs of the Earls of Warren and Surrey", by Watson, first published in 1782 and recently reproduced on CD rom - see Tomburch@aol.com

Another reference can be found in " A History and genealogy of the Warren Family", by Rev. Thomas Warren, first published in 1902 This has been reprinted on several occasions and I have an address in UK where to the best of my knowledge, these can still be obtained.

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But here is the descent as it is usually given:

   * 1. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey, son of Hameline "Plantagenet." 
   * 2. Griffin de Warren, illegitimate son, dead 1286, m. Isabel de Pulford, sister of Robert, rector of Coddington, Cheshire, widow 1286 and 1298. 
   * 3. John de Warren, lord of Ightfield jure ux (through marriage), liv. 1289, m. Audelin, daughter and heir of Griffin de Albo Monasterio/Whitchurch [these earliest two generations seem kind of suspicious]. 
   * 4. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Wynifred, d. & coh. of William Broxlon of Chester. 
   * 5. John de Warren of Ightfield, liv. 1314, 1335, m. Ellen, d. of John Chorleton. 
   * 6. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, d. 1356, m. Maud/Matilda, d. of Fulke, Lord Strange of Blackmere, afterwards married Sir Piers (or Peter) de Cornwall, lord of Kinlet, Shropshire. 
   * 7. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Margaret Corbet, daughter of Sir Piers de Corbet. 
   * 8. John Warren of Ightfield, d. ca. 1413, m. Matilda/ Margaret/ Emma, daughter of Sir John Cheney of Willaston. 
   * 9. Margaret Warren, sister and coheir, m. William Mainwaring, d. 1498/9, had Ightfield, Shropshire, and Stratton, in Tilston, Cheshire, with lands in Broxton. But I don't have Morris's notes to the pedigree so I don't know what further evidence he uses to estrablish the line. 

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   * John Warren 1320 

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   * Not son of William de Warenne 1256, he died too early in 1286.
   * Not son of William de Warenne 6th Earl of Surrey, he also died too early - 1240. 

-------------------- 4.Griffin de Warrenne Ightfield was mentioned as ISTEFELT in the Domesday Book and though not as important as some parishes in the area, it had its own priest which implies an established community which had its own church. The constant necessity of defending their territories against the Welsh prompted the Norman lords of Shropshire to such activity in castle-building that out of 186 castles in England no less than 32 are in this county. Shropshire became a key area within the Welsh Marches

Here is the descent as it is usually given: 1. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey, son of Hameline "Plantagenet." 2. Griffin de Warren, illegitimate son, dead 1286, m. Isabel de Pulford, sister of Robert, rector of Coddington, Cheshire, widow 1286 and 1298. 3. John de Warren, lord of Ightfield jure ux (through marriage), liv. 1289, m. Audelin, daughter and heir of Griffin de Albo Monasterio/Whitchurch [these earliest two generations seem kind of suspicious]. 4. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Wynifred, d. & coh. of William Broxlon of Chester. 5. John de Warren of Ightfield, liv. 1314, 1335, m. Ellen, d. of John Chorleton. 6. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, d. 1356, m. Maud/Matilda, d. of Fulke, Lord Strange of Blackmere, afterwards married Sir Piers (or Peter) de Cornwall, lord of Kinlet, Shropshire. 7. Griffin de Warren of Ightfield, m. Margaret Corbet, daughter of Sir Piers de Corbet. 8. John Warren of Ightfield, d. ca. 1413, m. Matilda/ Margaret/ Emma, daughter of Sir John Cheney of Willaston. 9. Margaret Warren, sister and coheir, m. William Mainwaring, d. 1498/9, had Ightfield, Shropshire, and Stratton, in Tilston, Cheshire, with lands in Broxton. But I don't have Morris's notes to the pedigree so I don't know what further evidence he uses to establish the line. Sources: Memoirs of the Ancient Earls of Warren and Surrey, and Their Descendants to the Present Time by John Watson pg 215-220. He cites Vincent's Cheshire that is said to contain a complete pedigree of this Griffinus de Warenna, son of John Warenne, Earl of Surrey.

http://www.warrenfamilyhistory.com/http://www.bigelowsociety.com/rod/warren1.htm - Warren Family History from Bigelow Family Society. ◾http://www.edmund-rice.org/ - Edmund Rice 1638 Association - Family Genealogical Database and research. - His Ancestors and Descendants. ◾The Generations of the Warren Family ◾The New England historical and genealogical register - Volume 64 - Page 353-360. Summarizes the Generations of Robert Warren to John Warren in medieval England.

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Warenne_Family_Ancestry

Source: http://www.thevalleyfamily.org/getperson.php?personID=I17558562194&tree=fitzvalley

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Griffin de Warren's Timeline

1288
1288
Ightfield, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom
1300
1300
Age 12
Ightfield, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
1315
1315
Age 27
Newborne, England
1338
1338
Age 50
Newbourne, Woodbridge, Suffolk Co, England.