Herbert II, comte de Vermandois

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  • Herbert II comte de Vermandois, comte de Meaux, de Soissons et de Vermandois

Heribert II de Vermandois, comte de Meaux, de Soissons et de Vermandois

Parents: Heribert I & his wife Liedgardis

Spouse: Adèle de Neustrie, de France (daughter of Robert I King of France.)


1. Odo (Eudes)

2. Adele (married Arnoul I de Flandre)

3. Heribert III 'le Vieux'

4. Hugues

5. Luigardis

6. Robert

7. Adalbert














http://blog.enchantedfamily.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I1807&tree=enchanted -------------------- 6. HERBERT (II) DE VERMANDOIS, b. 880 Vermandois Picardie, d. Feb 23, 943 Saint Quentin, Aisne, m. his niece, Adèle (II) Princess de France, b. 895, d. 943, daughter of Robert I King of France (and Count of Paris, born in Bourgogne and died in Soissons, France) and his sister Beatrice de Vermandois, b. 876, d. 929, daughter of Herbert (I) Comte de Vermandois and Berthe de Paris

Herbert (III) de Vermandois, Comte de Tours, b. 907, d. 987

Robert Comte de Troyes and Meaux, b. 910, d. Jun 19, 966

Leutgarde de Vermandois, Duchess de Normandy, b. 911, d. Nov 14, 977 Chartres

Adele (ou Alix) de Vermandois, b. 913, d. 959 Bruges

Eudes de Vermandois, Comte de Viennois, b. 915, d. Jun 19, 946

Albert (I) le Pieux de Vermandois, Comte de Vermandois, b. 916, d. Sep 8, 987 Saint-Quentin

Hugues de Vermandois, Archbishop of Reims, b. 920, d. 962 Meaux

-------------------- Herbert was the son of Herbert I of Vermandois.[1] He was apparently well aware of his descent from Charlemagne.[2] Herbert inherited the domain of his father and in 907, added to it the Abbey of St. Medard, Soissons. He took the position of Lay abbot entitling him to the income of those estates.[1] His marriage with a daughter of king Robert I of France brought him the County of Meaux.[3]

In 922, when Seulf became Archbishop of Rheims, in an effort to appease Herbert II Seulf solemnly promised him he could nominate his successor.[4] In 923, Count Herbert took the bold step of imprisoning King Charles III, who died still a captive in 929.[a][3] Then, on the death of Seulf in 925, with the help of King Rudolph, he acquired for his second son Hugh (then five years old) the archbishopric of Rheims.[5] Herbert took the additional step of sending emissaries to Rome to Pope John X to gain his approval, which that pope gave in 926.[4] On his election young Hugh was sent to Auxerre to study.[2]

In 926, on the death of Count Roger of Laon, Herbert demanded this countship for Eudes, his eldest son.[6] He took the town in defiance of King Rudolph leading to a clash between the two in 927.[2] Using the threat of releasing King Charles III, who he held captive, Herbert managed to hold the city for four more years.[2] But after the death of Charles in 929, Rudolph again attacked Laon in 931 successfully defeating Herbert.[2] The same year the king entered Rheims and defeated archbishop Hugh, the son of Herbert.[7] Artaud became the new archbishop of Reims.[7] Herbert II then lost, in three years, Vitry, Laon, Château-Thierry, and Soissons.[8] The intervention of his ally, Henry the Fowler, allowed him to restore his domains (except Rheims and Laon) in exchange for his submission to King Rudolph.

Later Herbert allied with Hugh the Great and William Longsword, duke of Normandy against King Louis IV, who allocated the County of Laon to Roger II, the son of Roger I, in 941. Herbert and Hugh the Great took back Rheims and captured Artaud.[9] Hugh, the son of Herbert, was restored as archbishop.[9] Again the mediation of the German King Otto I in Visé, near Liège, in 942 allowed for the normalization of the situation.

Death and legacy[edit]

Herbert II died on 23 February 943 at Saint-Quentin, Aisne (the capital of the county of Vermandois).[1] His vast estates and territories were divided among his sons.[10] Vermandois and Amiens went to the two elder sons while Robert and Herbert, the younger sons, were given the valuable holdings scattered throughout Champagne.[10] On Robert's death his brother's son Herbert III inherited them all. Herbert III's only son Stephen died childless in 1019–20 thus ending the male line of Herbert II.[10]


Herbert married Adele, daughter of Robert I of France.[11] Together they had the following children: Eudes of Vermandois, Count of Amiens and of Vienne, (c. 910–946)[1] Adalbert I, Count of Vermandois (c. 915–987), married Gerberge of Lorraine[1] Adela of Vermandois (910–960), married 934 Count Arnulf I of Flanders[1] Herbert 'the Old' (c. 910–980), Count of Omois, Meaux and Troyes, and abbot of St. Medard, Soissons, married 951 Eadgifu of Wessex daughter of Edward the Elder King of England and widow of Charles III King of France.[b][1] Robert of Vermandois, Count of Meaux and Châlons († 967)[1] Luitgarde of Vermandois (c. 915-20–978), married 940 William I, Duke of Normandy;[1] married secondly, c. 943–44, Theobald I of Blois[c][12] Their son was Odo I, Count of Blois.[10] Hugh of Vermandois (920–962), Archbishop of Reims

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Herbert II, comte de Vermandois's Timeline

Age 20
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Comté de Vermandois (Present Département de l'Aisne), (Present région Picardie), Royaume des Francs de l'Ouest (Present France)
Age 30
Meaux, Seine-et-Marne, Ile-de-France, France
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Vermandois (present Picardie), France
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Vermandois, France
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Vermandois, Normandy, France
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Vermandois, Normandy, France