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  • Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 40
  • Neville, John de by James Tait
  • NEVILLE, JOHN de, fifth Baron Neville of Raby (d. 1388), was the eldest son of Ralph de Neville, fourth baron Neville of Raby [q. v.], by his wife Alice, daughter of Sir Hugh de Audley of Stratton-Audley, in Oxfordshire, and aunt of Sir James Audley, one of the most gallant followers of the Black Prince (Beltz, Memorials of the Order of the Garter, p. 75). His brothers, Alexander, archbishop of York [q. v.], and Sir William (d. 1389?) [q. v.], are separately noticed. In the inquisition taken in 1368, after his father's death, John Neville is described as then twenty-six years of age (ib. p. 166). But this is undoubtedly an error, as both John and his next brother Robert were old enough to take part in the Earl of Derby's Gascon campaign of 1345. He was present with his father at the battle of Neville's Cross on 17 Oct. 1346, .... etc.
  • Neville was twice married: first, to Maud Percy, daughter of Henry, lord Percy (d. 1352), and aunt of the first Earl of Northumberland; and, secondly, to Elizabeth, only daughter and heiress of William, lord Latimer of Danby in Cleveland. Neville had already issue by her when, in 1381, he received livery of her inheritance. She afterwards married Robert, fourth lord Willoughby de Eresby (d. 1396), and died on 5 Nov. 1395 (Dugdale; Surtees, History of Durham, iv. 159).
  • By his first wife Neville had two sons—(1) Ralph III, sixth baron Neville of Raby and first earl of Westmorland [q. v.]; (2) Thomas, who married Joan, daughter of the last Baron Furnival, on whose death, in 1383, he was summoned to parliament as Thomas Neville ‘of Hallamshire,’ though generally called Lord Furnival (Nicolas, Historic Peerage). He was war-treasurer under Henry IV, and died in 1406, and his only child, Maud, carried the barony of Furnival to John Talbot, afterwards the great Earl of Shrewsbury.
  • The daughters of the first marriage were: (1) Elizabeth, who became a nun in the Minories, outside Aldgate, London; (2) Alice, married to William, lord Deincourt, who died on 14 Oct. 1381; (3) Mathilda, who married William le Scrope; (4) Iolande or Idina (Swallow, p. 34); (5) Eleanor, married Ralph, lord Lumley, slain and attainted in 1400. A sixth daughter is mentioned in his will.
  • By his second wife Neville had a son John, who proved his age in 1404, and was summoned to parliament as Baron Latimer until his death in 1430. He sold the Latimer barony to his eldest half-brother, the Earl of Westmorland (Dugdale).
  • Surtees adds a daughter Elizabeth, married to Sir Thomas Willoughby, third son of Robert, fourth lord Willoughby de Eresby (d. 1396).
  • [Rotuli Parliamentorum; Rymer's Fœdera, original and Record editions; Lords' Report on the Dignity of a Peer; Galfrid le Baker, ed. Maunde Thompson; Chronicon Angliæ, 1328–88, and Registrum Palatinum Dunelmense, in Rolls Ser.; Chandos Herald's Black Prince, ed. Francisque-Michel; Froissart, ed. Luce (to 1377) and Kervyn de Lettenhove; Chronique du bon Duc Louis de Bourbon, published by the Société de l'Histoire de France; Wills and Inventories, ed. James Raine for the Surtees Soc., vol. i.; Surtees's History of Durham, vol. iv.; Swallow's De Nova Villa, 1885; Dugdale's Baronage; Segar's Baronagium Genealogicum, ed. Edmondson; Nicolas's Historic Peerage, ed. Courthope; Beltz's Memorials of the Order of the Garter; Barnes's History of Edward III; Selby's Genealogist, iii. 107, &c.]
  • From: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Neville,_John_de_(DNB00)
  • https://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofnati40stepuoft#page/262/mode/1up to https://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofnati40stepuoft#page/265/mode/1up

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  • John Neville, 3rd Baron Neville de Raby, KG c.1337 – 17 October 1388) was an English peer and soldier.[a]
  • John Neville, born at Raby Castle, Durham, between 1337 and 1340, was the eldest son of Ralph Neville, 2nd Baron Neville de Raby, and Alice Audley. He had five brothers, including Alexander Neville, Archbishop of York, and four sisters.[1]
  • .... etc.
  • Neville married, before 1362, firstly, Maud Percy (d. before 18 February 1379), daughter of Henry de Percy, 2nd Baron Percy of Alnwick, Northumberland, and Idoine de Clifford, daughter of Robert de Clifford, 1st Baron de Clifford, by whom he had two sons and five daughters:[6]
    • Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland.
    • Sir Thomas Neville of Brancepeth, who married Maud Stanhope.
    • Alice Neville, who married William Deincourt, 3rd Baron Deincourt.
    • Maud Nevile.
    • Idoine Neville.
    • Eleanor Neville, who married Ralph de Lumley, 1st Baron Lumley.
    • Elizabeth Neville, who became a nun.
  • After his first wife Maud's death in 1379 Neville married secondly, before 9 October 1381, Elizabeth Latimer (d. 5 November 1395), daughter of William Latimer, 4th Baron Latimer, by whom he had a son and a daughter:[7]
  • John Neville, 6th Baron Latimer (c.1382 – 10 December 1430), who married firstly, Maud Clifford (c.26 August 1446), daughter of Thomas de Clifford, 6th Baron de Clifford, whom he divorced before 1413x17, and by whom he had no issue. She married secondly, Richard of Conisburgh, 3rd Earl of Cambridge.[8]
  • Elizabeth Neville, who married, before 27 May 1396, Sir Thomas Willoughby (died shortly before 20 August 1417) son of Robert Willoughby, 4th Baron Willoughby de Eresby (c.1348-50 – 9 August 1396), by whom she had one child, Sir John Willoughby (c.1400 – 24 February 1437).[9]
  • After Neville's death, his widow, Elizabeth, married, as his second wife, Robert Willoughby, 4th Baron Willoughby de Eresby (c.1348-50 – 9 August 1396), by whom she had a daughter, Margaret Willoughby.[10]
  • From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Neville,_3rd_Baron_Neville_de_Raby

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  • Sir John de Neville, 3rd Baron Neville, Ambassador to France, Admiral of the Fleet Northwards, Lt. of Aquitaine1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25
  • M, #11096, b. between 1337 and 1340, d. 17 October 1388
  • Father Sir Ralph de Neville, 2nd Baron Nevill of Raby, Sheriff of Hutton, Snape, Sutton in the Forest, & Wells26,27,28 b. c 1291, d. 5 Aug 1367
  • Mother Alice de Audley26,27,28 b. c 1300, d. 12 Jan 1374
  • Sir John de Neville, 3rd Baron Neville, Ambassador to France, Admiral of the Fleet Northwards, Lt. of Aquitaine was born between 1337 and 1340 at of Raby, Brancepeth, & Staindrop, Durham, England; Age 30 in 1367, 30-32 in 1368, & 30 in 1374.7,19 He married Maud de Percy, daughter of Sir Henry de Percy, 2nd Lord Percy, Baron Topcliffe & Alnwick and Idoine de Clifford, before 1362; They had 2 sons (Sir Ralph, 1st Earl of Westmoreland, 4th Lord Neville; & Sir Thomas, Lord Furnivall) and 5 daughters (Alice, wife of William, 3rd Lord Deincourt; Maud; Idoine; Eleanor, wife of Sir Ralph, 1st Lord Lumley; & Elizabeth, a Minoress nun).29,30,6,7,9,10,11,12,16,17,18,19,21,22,24 Sir John de Neville, 3rd Baron Neville, Ambassador to France, Admiral of the Fleet Northwards, Lt. of Aquitaine married Elizabeth Latimer, daughter of Sir William Latimer, 4th Lord Latimer, Constable of Dover Castle, Lt. & Captain-General of Gascony and Elizabeth FitzAlan, circa 9 October 1381; They had 1 son (Sir Sir John, 6th Lord Latimer) & 1 daughter (Elizabeth, wife of Sir Thomas Willoughby).29,31,4,5,7,13,14,17,19,23,25 Sir John de Neville, 3rd Baron Neville, Ambassador to France, Admiral of the Fleet Northwards, Lt. of Aquitaine left a will on 31 August 1386; Requested burial in Durham Cathedral by his 1st wife.29,7,19 He died on 17 October 1388 at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England.29,7,13,19,25
  • Family 1 Maud de Percy b. c 1345, d. b 18 Feb 1379
  • Children
    • Sir Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival, Treasurer of England, Keeper of Annandale, Keeper of the Castles of Berwick-on-Tweed, Alnwick, & Warkworth, Constable of Lochmaben Castle+32,33,34,7,10,11,16,19,22 d. 14 Mar 1407
    • Alice Neville+29,8,20 d. 20 Jul 1433
    • Sir Ralph Neville, 1st Earl Westmoreland, 4th Baron Neville+35,32,7,12,19,24 b. bt 1364 - 1367, d. 21 Oct 1425
    • Eleanor Neville+2,32,3,6,7,15,18,19 b. c 1365, d. a 16 Jul 1447
  • Family 2 Elizabeth Latimer b. c 1357, d. 5 Nov 1395
  • Children
    • Sir John Neville, 6th Lord Latimer7,19 b. c 1382, d. 10 Dec 1430
    • Elizabeth Neville+36,32,4,7,37,14,19 b. c 1384
  • Citations
  • [S2888] Unknown author, The Royal Descents or 500 Immigrants, by Gary Boyd Roberts, p. 354; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1490.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 479.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 41.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 333.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 185.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 80-81.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 244.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 274.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 337.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 166-167.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 258-259.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 313.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 332-333.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 573-574.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 165-166.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 52.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 136.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 670-671.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 229-230.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 277.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 350.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 117-118.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 161.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 339-340.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 359-360.
  • [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 242.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 135.
  • [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 227-228.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 539.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 575-576.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 644.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 539-540.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 702-704.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 737.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 134-135.
  • [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 130.
  • [S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 324.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p370.htm#i11096

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  • John NEVILLE (3° B. Neville of Raby)
  • Born: 1322/8, Raby, Durham, England
  • Died: 17 Oct 1388, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
  • Buried: Durham Cathedral
  • Notes: Knight of the Garter. 5th. baron Neville of Raby, Knight, builder of the greater part of Raby Castle which is located near Barnard Castle in Durham Co. Admiral of the King's fleet. Served in the wars against the Scots and French.
  • Father: Ralph NEVILLE (2° B. Neville of Raby)
  • Mother: Alice AUDLEY (B. Neville of Raby)
  • Married 1: Maud PERCY (B. Neville of Raby) Jul 1357, Alnwick, Northumberland, England
  • Children:
    • 1. Alice NEVILLE (B. Deincourt)
    • 2. Eleanor NEVILLE (B. Lumley)
    • 3. Thomas NEVILLE (6º B. Furnival)
    • 4. Idina (Iolande) NEVILLE
    • 5. Ralph NEVILLE (1° E. Westmoreland)
    • 6. Maud (Matilda) NEVILLE
    • 7. Elizabeth NEVILLE (Nun at Minories)
    • 8. Dau. NEVILLE
  • Married 2: Elizabeth LATIMER (B. Latimer of Corby) (d. 5 Nov 1395) (dau. of William Latimer, B. Latimer, and Elizabeth Fitzalan) (m.2 Robert Willoughby, 4° B. Willoughby of Eresby) BEF 9 Oct 1381, Raby, Durham, England
  • Children:
    • 9. John NEVILLE (1° B. Latimer of Corby)
    • 10. Elizabeth NEVILLE
    • 11. Margaret NEVILLE
  • From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/NEVILLE1.htm#John NEVILLE (3° B. Raby)

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  • Sir John de Neville
  • Birth: 1328 Staindrop, County Durham, England
  • Death: Oct. 17, 1388 Northumberland, England
  • John de Neville, 3rd Baron Neville de Raby
  • John was the eldest son of six sons and four daughters of Ralph Neville, 2nd Baron Neville de Raby and Alice de Audley, the grandson of Ranulph de Neville and Eupheme FitzRobert, Hugh I de Audley and Isolte de Mortimer. John was born at Raby Castle between 1337 and 1340.
  • He married Maud Percy, daughter of Henry de Percy, 2nd Baron Percy and Idoine de Clifford, in July 1357 at Alnwick Castle Northumberland. They had seven children:
    • Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland
    • Thomas Neville, 5th Baron Furnivall
    • Idione Neville
    • Alice Neville, wife of William Deincourt, 3rd Baron Deincourt
    • Maud Neville
    • Elizabeth de Neville, wife of Ralph de Lumley, 1st Baron Lumley
    • Eleanor Neville, a nun
  • After Maud died in 1379 John married a second time to Elizabeth Latimer, daughter of William Latimer, 4th Baron Latimer Their two children were:
    • John Neville, 6th Baron Latimer
    • Elizabeth Neville, wife of Thomas Willoughby
  • John received his father's title and lands in England and Scotland at his father's death in August of 1367. He fought in the Battle of Neville's Cross on 17 October 1346 as a Captain in his father's division. He was knighted in 1360 and after his father's death in 1367 he succeeded to the title of 3rd Baron Neville of Raby. In 1368 he served as the English ambassador to France. He was Admiral of the King's fleet and served in the wars against the Scots and French. He was made a Knight of the Garter in 1369, and served as Steward of the Household in 1372, serving in the Scottish borders for several years. In 1378 he received licence to fortify Raby Castle, was appointed Keeper of Fronsac Castle and became the Seneschal of Gascony.
  • Sir John died in 1388 at Newcastle Upon Tyne and is entombed at Durham Cathedral with his first wife.
  • After his death, his widow, Elizabeth Latimer, would marry her daughter's father-in-law, Sir Robert Willoughby, the 4th Baron Willoughby of Eresby, as his second wife. Sir John was succeeded by his eldest son, Sir Ralph de Neville.
  • Family links:
  • Parents:
  • Ralph de Neville (1291 - 1367)
  • Alice De Audley Neville (____ - 1374)
  • Spouses:
  • Maud de Percy Neville (1335 - 1379)
  • Elizabeth Latimer Neville (1357 - 1395)
  • Children:
    • Thomas De Neville (1362 - 1406)*
    • Ralph de Neville (1364 - 1425)*
    • John Neville (1382 - 1430)*
  • Siblings:
  • William Fitzralph Greystoke (1321 - 1359)**
  • John de Neville (1328 - 1388)
  • Alexander de Neville (1332 - 1392)*
  • Eleanor Neville Scrope (1340 - 1398)*
  • Margaret de Neville Percy (1341 - 1372)*
  • *Calculated relationship
  • **Half-sibling
  • Burial: Durham Cathedral, Durham, Durham Unitary Authority, County Durham, England
  • Find A Grave Memorial# 83998196
  • From: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=83998196

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