Joan Talbot (c.1426 - d.)

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Birthplace: Grafton Flyford, Worcestershire, England
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About Joan Talbot

  • 'Joan Talbot1,2,3,4,5,6
  • 'F, d. after 26 May 1474
  • Father Sir John Talbot, 4th Earl Shrewsbury, Wexford, Waterford, 7th Lord Talbot, Count of Clermont3,4,5,7 b. c 1392, d. 17 Jul 1453
  • Mother Margaret Beauchamp3,4,5,7 b. 1404, d. 14 Jun 1467
  • ' A settlement for the marriage Joan Talbot and Sir James de Berkeley, 6th Lord Berkeley was made on 25 July 1457.1,3,4,5,6 Joan Talbot died after 26 May 1474; When she married Edmund Hungerford, Esq.
  • 'Family Sir James de Berkeley, 6th Lord Berkeley b. 1394, d. Nov 1463
  • Citations
  • 1.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. II, p. 132.
  • 2.[S147] Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage, 1938 ed., by Sir Bernard Burke, p., 2237.
  • 3.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 100.
  • 4.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 704.
  • 5.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 181.
  • 6.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 172.
  • 7.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 169-170.
  • http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1488.htm#i44730
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James Berkeley, 1st Baron Berkeley (c. 1394 – 22 October[1] 1463), also known as "James the Just", was an English peer.

Berkeley was the son of Sir James de Berkeley and his wife Elizabeth (née Bluet). He was made heir to his uncle Thomas de Berkeley, 5th Baron Berkeley. He was married four times. His third wife was Lady Isabel, daughter of Thomas Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk, and his 'fourth wife was Lady Joan Talbot, daughter of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury'. Lord Berkeley was involved in a bitter feud with his cousin Elizabeth, daughter of the fifth Baron Berkeley and wife of Richard de Beauchamp, 13th Earl of Warwick. He was unable initially to claim Berkeley Castle, as it was taken in possession by the Earl and Countess of Warwick. In 1421, when the Warwicks finally gave up Berkeley Castle, James was summoned to Parliament by writ as Lord Berkeley. The feud did not end there as his third wife Isabel was captured by the Countess of Warwick's son-in-law the Earl of Shrewsbury, and held imprisoned until her death in 1452.

Lord Berkeley was succeeded by his son from his third marriage, William, who was created Marquess of Berkeley in 1489.

References

  • Kidd, Charles, Williamson, David (editors). Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage (1990 edition). New York: St Martin's Press, 1990.
  • Leigh Rayment's Peerage Pages [self-published source?][better source needed]
  • www.thepeerage.com

Notes

John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and 1st Earl of Waterford KG (1384/1387 Blakemere, Shropshire – 17 July 1453 Castillon, France), known as "Old Talbot" was an important English military commander during the Hundred Years' War, as well as the only Lancastrian Constable of France.

First marriage

Talbot was married before 12 March 1407 to Maud Neville, 6th Baroness Furnivall, daughter and heiress of Thomas Neville, 5th Baron Furnivall, the son of John Neville, 3rd Baron Neville de Raby. He was summoned to Parliament in her right from 1409.

The couple are thought to have four children:

  • Thomas Talbot (19 June 1416 Finglas, Ireland - 10 August 1416)
  • John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury (c. 1417 – 11 July 1460)
  • Sir Christopher Talbot (1419–10 August 1443),
  • 'Lady Joan Talbot (c 1422), married James Berkeley, 1st Baron Berkeley.

In 1421 by the death of his niece he acquired the Baronies of Talbot and Strange. His first wife, Maud died on 31 May 1422. It has been suggested as an indirect result of giving birth to daughter 'Joan, although due to a lack of evidence of her life before her marriage to Lord Berkeley has even led to a theory that she was actually Talbot's daughter-in-law through marriage to Sir Christopher Talbot'.

Second marriage

On 6 September 1425, he married Lady Margaret Beauchamp, eldest daughter of Richard de Beauchamp, 13th Earl of Warwick and Elizabeth de Berkeley in the chapel at Warwick Castle. They had five children:

  • John Talbot, 1st Viscount Lisle (1426 – 17 July 1453)
  • Sir Louis Talbot (c 1429-1458)
  • Sir Humphrey Talbot (before 1434 – c. 1492)
  • Lady Eleanor Talbot (c February/March 1436 - 30 June 1468) married to Sir Thomas Butler and mistress to King Edward IV.
  • Lady Elizabeth Talbot (c December 1442/January 1443). She married John de Mowbray, 4th Duke of Norfolk.

Talbot is known to have had at least one illegitimate child, Henry. He may have served in France with his father as it is known that a bastard son of the Earl of Shrewsbury was captured by the Dauphin on August 14, 1443.[5]

References

  • This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press.
  • 1.^ Domesday Book: a complete translation (2002), p. 568; K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday People, vol. 1: Domesday Book (1999), p. 368.
  • 2.^ K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday People, vol. 2: Domesday Descendants (2002), p. 1123.
  • 3.^ G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959), volume XII/1, p. 610.
  • 4.^ John Ashdown-Hill, "Eleanor The Secret Queen", Page 14 The History Press, 2009 ISBN 978 0 7524 5669 0
  • 5.^ John Ashdown-Hill, Eleanor The Secret Queen, Page 35 The History Press, 2009 ISBN 978 0 7524 5669 0
  • 6.^ John Ashdown-Hill, Eleanor The Secret Queen, Page 16 The History Press, 2009 ISBN 978 0 7524 5669 0
  • 7.^ Otway-Ruthven, A.J. History of Mediaeval Ireland Barnes and Noble 1993
  • 8.^ John Ashdown-Hill, "Eleanor The Secret Queen", Page 15 The History Press, 2009 ISBN 978 0 7524 5669 0
  • 9.^ John Ashdown-Hill, Eleanor The Secret Queen, Page 17 The History Press, 2009 ISBN 978 0 7524 5669 0
  • 10.^ John Ashdown-Hill, Eleanor The Secret Queen, Page 26 The History Press, 2009 ISBN 978 0 7524 5669 0
  • 11.^ John Ashdown-Hill, Eleanor The Secret Queen, Page 29 The History Press, 2009 ISBN 978 0 7524 5669 0
  • 12.^ Calendar of Patent Rolls, 1441-1446, pp 397-398; p220
  • 13.^ "Whitchurch". Shropshire Tourism. http://www.shropshiretourism.co.uk/whitchurch/. Retrieved 2008-03-13.
  • From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Talbot,_1st_Earl_of_Shrewsbury
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