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Nicknames: "Of Glade Hollow", "of Glade Hollow", "John of Glade Hollow"
Birthplace: Opequon, Frederick, VA, USA
Death: Died in Glade Hollow, Russell, VA, USA
Managed by: Mark Fleming
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About John Counts, Sr.

ID: I16229

Name: John Coons

Sex: M

Birth: 26 MAR 1739 in Opequon, Frederick County, Virginia

Death: 25 APR 1832 in Alma, Page County, Virginia

IDNO: C0+5951.148+2

Occupation: "Elder"

Note:

The so-called Culpeper Classes is a list of the militia in January of178 1. Each of the 106 classes is composed of thirteen or fourteennames. Th us, these lists furnish about fourteen hundred names ofmales, aged 16 t o 50.

Toward the end of 1780, the Revolutionary War was heating up in theSouthe rn colonies, and Virginia was in danger, and, a resource ofmanpower. T o provide men, a draft was instituted in Virginia. Thequota was divide d among the counties, and Culpeper Co. was assigned tosupply 106 men. Cu lpeper did this by dividing the militia into 106classes and then one ma n was selected (drafted) from each class.

Provisions were made for the drafted person to be replaced by anotherpers on. One could hire a substitute. Some classes avoided the draftaltogeth er by collectively hiring a man to serve as the draft from theclass. I n some cases, it appears that a relative served in place ofthe drafted pe rson, most likely because the drafted person was marriedor essential at h ome.

There has been some argument as to the significance of a nameappearing i n one of these Culpeper classes. For a while, somepatriotic organization s took the appearance of a name in these listsas meaning the man did serv ice for the cause of the Revolution. Atother times or places, the opinio n has been the lists are an"inventory" of middle-aged males in Culpeper C ounty. One had nocontrol over whether his name was entered there or not . In theory,one could have been a Tory and opposed to the Revolution whi le stillappearing in the lists.

Class number 34 is rich in Germanna names: Joseph Coones, Jr., JohnFishba ck (son of Jacob), Jacob Fishback, Jr., James Blackwell, JohnSpillman, Jo hn Matthais, James Burdett, Frederick Coones, John Young,Jr., Frederick F ishback (son of Fred), John Coons, Peter Kamper,William Button, and Harmo n Button. In the selection process,Frederick Coones was the draft, but T homas Blackwell substituted forFred Coones. In this case, I do not kno w if there was anyrelationship between the Coones and Blackwell. These n ames come fromaround Jeffersonton in the Little Neck district of Culpepe r Co.

History of the Descendents of John Koontz. by Lowell Koontz

(6327 Phyllis Lane, Alexandria VA 22312), 1979.

"Elder John Koontz is the son of John (Cuntz) Koontz andAnna

Elizabetha Catherine Stoever married Elizabeth Baker who wasa

sister to the second wife of Daniel Mauck who owned the farm

where died W. Brubaker once resided, and died in 1802.Elizabeth

Baker's father came to this country from London, England.(Ref.

10) John married Elizabeth in the early 1760's as his eldestson

Jacob was born 1764. (Ref. tombstone cemetery 82-A)

John born 26 Mar. 1739 in Opequon, Va. in Frederick Co., Va.

(Ref. 203, p. 13) He died 25 Apr. 1832 in Page Co. nearAlma,

Va. and buried in cemetery 73. The tombstone was removedfrom

the Koontz Shuler Cemetery by Carroll R. Shuler of Stanleyand

placed in a cement and rock memorial to the Reverand JohnKoontz

which stands in the Seekford Cemetery in Alma, Va. Intalking

with Carroll R. Shuler he stated that the body had not been

disinterred and that he had taken the tombstone from nearthe

center of the Koontz Shuler Cemetery where the body still

remains. The date on the limestone slab is hand carved andis

still quite lefible. The foregoing date is correct for it isnot

only listed on the tombstone that way but Elder John had awill

probated 28 AGay 1832. Two things have confused the issue:one,

Elder John had a son who died in 1831 and his son's will was

probated Dec., 1831 and secondly the Mill Creek Churchrecords

state death in the church since the beginning of the year1832

probably recording this at the end of that calendar year.The

church record states "Edward Holmes, Eld. John Koontz; since

1832, " meaning since 1832 began not before 1832.

It is not known when Elizabeth was born as her grave was not

marked by an engraved tombstone in the Koontz ShulerCemetery

but she died between 1825-1826 as the church records (Ref.18)

show her death in the list of deceased members just before

members known to have died in 1827. (Ref. 202, p. 100) Sheis

not listed in the 1830 census of Page Co. with her husband.

John, living near Winchester, Va. was impressed by themessage

of Baptist preachers and hence traveled to Fauquier Co. andwas

baptized there December, 1768. With his return to theWinchester

area he began preaching, and in November, 1770 he visitedhis

brother George who lived in the area of Mill Creek and soon

began preaching there. John continued to live nearWinchester

and visited lilill Creek. (Ref. 212, pp. 184-189, Ref. 18,Ref.

213, Ref 214) He converted Martin Kaufman It from theMennonite

religion to the Baptist faith. Martin Kaufman's father,SIartin

Eaufman I, was a Mennonite minister who came to the valleyfrom

Lancaster Co., Penn and on 23 Feb. 1736 bought the landalong

the Shenandoah River uhere Route 211 crosses it. (Ref. 94)John

Koontz and Martin Kaufman II both could speak German andEnglish

and were very successful preachers and by 1772 had organizeda

Baptist congregation. John was ordained a minister andgained

his title of Elder John Koontz betueen 17721775. (Ref. 212,pp.

184-189) In October, 1776 John Countz was deeded 86 acres of

landin Shenandoah Co., that section that later became PageCo.

(Ref. 215 "B", p. 426) It is thought John Counts came tolive in

the Mill Creek section about this same time.

[Monument to Elder John Koontz - This inscription isinscribed

on the memorial: "In Memory of Elder John Koontz died Apr.25,

1832 between 80 and 90 sic, (93) years of age, No primitive

Baptist preacher suffered more at the hands of opposers, No

primitive Baptist preacher surpassed him in his devotion tohis

Lord and his people. Like Abraham of old Elder Koontz was

"Strong in the faith, giving glory to God; and being fully

persuaded that what he had promised he was able also toperform,

Rom. 4:20. "]

Elder John Koontz was pastor of the Mill Creek BaptistChurch

for about 50 years. German Mennonites from Pennsylvania sent

several preachers to the Valley to work against Elder Johnand

the Baptist movement. Some of the local people opposed Elder

John Koontz more physically. Once while he was on his way to

preach he was seized on the road by a mob and was severely

beaten. He was later seized and threatened with imprisonmentfor

preaching without authorization. (Ref. 202, pp. 242-247)John

Countz and Martin Kaufman were so successful in converting

Mennonites to Baptist that there are very few Mennonitesfound

in Page Co., Va. today. On 25 Aug. 1785 John Counts obtained

certification to perform marriages bom Shenandoah Co., Va.and

signed his name clearly Counts.

In the year 1805 there was a disagreement in the practice of

slavery which resulted in Martin Kaufman, Lewis Seits, and

Samuel Comer separating from the Mill Creek Church with agroup

of followers that moved to Fairfield Co., OH. The churchthere

was called Pleasant Run and in 1806 the OH Association ofwhich

Pleasant Run was a member stated the following "We do notwish

to correspond with any association or church that does in

principle or practice hold involuntary slavery. " Not farfrom

Granville in OH is a small place caHed Luray after Luray,Va.

There is also a Luray in Fayette Co., OH. (Ref. 17, pp.272-275)

Elder John Koontz and his wife Elizabeth are found in the

following Deeds of Shenandoah Co., Va. (1) Oct. 1776 David

Coffman of Dunmore Co. to John Countz of Dunmore Co. 86acres as

listed before. (Ref. 215 Book "B", p. 4263 (Note: Part of

Shenandoah Co. was known as Dumnore Co. till 1778. ) (2)March

24, 1784 Christian Bumgardner to John Countz 2 acres on

Hawksbill Creek. (Ref. 215 Book "E", p. 49) (3) March 29,1786

John Koontz to Daniel Mauck 86 acres sold him by Coffman and

deed signed by John's wife Elizabeth. Ref. 215 Book "F", p.16)

(4) Aug. 31, 1786 Lewis Bibber sic (Biedler)and Barbara hiswife

to John Koontz 127 acres. (Ref. 215 Book "F", pv 239) (5)June

14, 1806 John Koontz, Sr. and Elizabeth his wfe to IsaacKoontz

134 acres bought from Bibber dc. (Biedler)and Coffnan. (Ref.215

Book "P", p. 201)

The will of Elder John Koontz was dated 14 Mar. 1807 but not

probated until 28 May 1832. (Ref. 211 Book "A", pp. 26-27)The

following is the will of Elder John Koontz.

In the Name of God, Amen - I John Koontz of Shenandoah Co.and

State of Virginia, being in common bodily health and perfect

mind and recollection, thanks be unto God for tbe same - domake

and ordain this my last will and testament in mannerfollowing,

(to- wit). Firstly: It is my will that all my just debtsshould

be paid first; Secondly: I give and bequeath to my belovedwife

Elizabeth, all the property which I have and possess to herown

proper use and enjoyment as she may choose to apply it orfind

necessary during her natural life time, and after her deathI

give and bequeath unto my three sons, Jacob, John and Isaac

Koontz each one and equal part in that which may remain Asto my

daughter, Elizabeth, which is dead I have had given her inher

lifetime all which I intended to give her or her heirs;Thirdly:

I do hereby appoint my three sons, Jacob, John, and IsaacKoontz

my sole executors of my last will and testament; Fourthly: Ido

hereby disannul and make void all former wills by me made,

ratifying, confirming and declaring this and no other to bemy

last will and testament in witness whereof. I have hereuntoset

my hand and seal this 14th day of March, Eighteen hundredand

seven

[John Koontz (seal) Signed, sealed and delivered in thepresence

of us. Roads, Joseph Mauch, Jonas Rufiner, David Varner,

Christian Aleshire, Benjamin Wood.

Acknowledge before me on the 9th day of Dec., 1828.

Jos. Strickler At a court held for the Co. of Page on Mondaythe

28th day of May 1832. The written will of John Koontz was

produced to the Court by Isaac Koontz and proved by the oathof

Jonas Ruffner and Joseph Strickler, witnesses thereto, and

ordered to be recorded.

Teste: William A. Harris, Clerk]

The preceding will is taken from (Ref. 211 Book "A", pp.26-27

(Ref. 17, p. 282) lists W.B. "A" p. 153 which is incorrect.

Just across the Shenandoah River from Alma, Va. on the north

side of 340 is located the home of Elder John Koontz. ElderJohn

Koontz bought this house and property of 112 A. on 27 Aug.1814

from David and Margaret Huffman. (Ref. 215 B30k "V", p. 303)

John willed this to his ch. (Ref. 211 Book "A", pp. 26-27)The

house was later deeded to Isaac Koontz then to AndrewJackson

Shuler as verified by the following refs. (Ref. 204 Book"E", p.

477, Book "G", pp. 116-118, Book "IsI", p. 274) EarlierElder

John Koontz liered on the Hawksbill Creek.

Jacob bought land from John Pence on 29 Sept. 1791. (Ref.215

Book "H", p. 204) The 1830 census shows Elder John Koontzand

Isaac lived in the 2 1/2 story log structure with irnmenserock

chimneys at both ends and tiny paned windows. It had a full

cellar beneath. (Ref. 216, pp. 47 & 53) The house was justbelow

the old Koontz Shuler Cemetery 73. The compiler firstvisited

the house in 1973. It had been torn down since Ann Kerkhoffhad

written about it. It had been used as a chicken house forsome

time before it was torn down as one could see from oldchicken

feeders still under some of the floor boards and debris.BZhat a

poor fate for Rlleh an hictarir loz home

During the Civil War in the winter of 1862 a small group of

Yankees used the house as their winter quarters. (Ref. 216,pp.

56, 57, 60) At this time Andrew Jackson Shuler was livingthere

as he had married Juliana Ann Koontz the great granddaughterof

Elder John Koontz. The property had passed from Isaac Newton

Koontz, Sr., son of Elder John Koontz, born 1777 to IsaacNewton

Koontz, Jr born 1810 to Andrew Jackson Shuler born in 1831."

The Will of John Counts From Some Descendants of John Counts of GladeHol low by Elihu Jasper Sutherland:

In the name of God Amen, I John Counts, Senior, of Russell County andComm onwealth of Virginia being old and frail in body, but perfect inmind an d memory, blessed be God, but Calling to mind the Mortality ofmy body an d knowing it is appointed once for all men to die, I do makeand Constitut e this my last Will and Testament in manner and formfollowing. And firs t I give my body to the Earth from whence it wastaken desiring it may b e buried in a Christian manner without ppom&c., and my soul I give to Go d who save it hoping it may find peace inthe Arms of his Mercy, and as to uching what worldly Goods and estatewhich I possess I give, devise and be queath in manner following towit: Eve Maticks my eldest daughter I give o ne Shilling. MaryRarsnake I give on Shilling. John Counts Junior als o I give oneShilling, Lissey Willard I give one shilling. Item, I give t o HarryWillard's eldest son Martin Willard Catherine my daughter one shil lingChristian my daughter one shilling, my son Philip one shilling. Item, I give and bequeath to my son George with whom I live the plantationon wh ich I live with all apputenances thereunto belonging out of whichI am t o be maintained in a good comfortable manner while I live withvictuals an d cloathing and at my death everything possessed by meshall belong to Geo rge Counts and to his heirs forever and I do herebyrevoke and disannul al l former wills by me made and ratifying andconfirming this to be my Las t Will and Testament. In witness whereof Ihave hereunto set my hand and s eal this third day of April onethousand eight hundred and two. Singed Sea led and delivered publishedand Declared to be my last will in the presenc e of these Witnesses. Xhis (John Counts) mark Teste John Hargis x her (Ly dia Hargis) DuriteeCounts -------------------- descendants of Jost Kuntze

Generation No. 2

2. JOHN2 COUNTS, SR. (JOST1 KUNTZE)1 was born 1706 in ,, Germany, and died 1803 in Glade Hollow, Russell, VA2. He married MARY MAGDELINE3 Abt. 1750. She was born 17224, and died 25 June 1814 in , Russell, VA4.

Notes for JOHN COUNTS, SR.: "John Counts, Sr. was born unknown and died about 1803 in Russell Co., VA. Mary Magdaline Counts was born 1722 and died 25 Jun 1814 in Russell Co., VA. No further information is known on their ancestors although family tradition maintains that John Counts was "Black Dutch"."

From "Some Descendants of John Counts of Glade Hollow 1722-1977"

"They moved from Shenandoah Co., VA in 1789 and settled in Glade Hollow, Russell Co., VA." Same source

Internet msg from Ann H. Stewart (ahstewart@juno.com": "The Counts family came to VA in 1715 as part of the Germanna settlement. They were from the Palatinate in Germany. The name was originally Kunz, it got mistranslated to Koontz, then Coontz and finally Counts. There's a wealth of stuff about the Germanna settlers, look in Culpepper/Orange Co's."WILL OF JOHN COUNTS Russell County, Virginia Will Book 2, Page 33 Executed 27 Apr 1803 In the name of God Amen I John Counts Senor. Of Russell County and Commonwealth of Virginia being old and frail in body, but perfect in mind and memory blessed be God but calling to mind the mortality of my body and knowing it is appointed once for all men to die I do make and constitute this my Last will and Testament in manner and form following, And first I give my body to the earth from whence it was taken desiring it may be buried in a Christian manner without pomp &c. and my soul I give to God who gave it hoping it may find peace in the Arms of his mercy, and as touching what worldly goods or estate which I possess I give demise and bequeath in manner following to wit,

Eve Maticks my eldest daughter I give one shilling Mary Rarsnake I give one shilling John Counts Junr. also I give one shilling Lissey Willard I give one shilling.

Item, I give to Harry Willards eldest son Martin Willard

Catherine my daughter one shilling Christian my daughter one shilling, my son Phillip one shilling.

Item, I give and bequeath to my son George with whom I live the plantation on which we live with all appurtenances thereunto belonging out of which I am to be maintained in a good common manner while I live for victuals and clothing and at my death every thing possessed by me shall belong to George Counts and to his heirs forever and I do hereby revoke and disannul all former wills by me made and ratifying and confirming this to be my Last Will and Testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this third day of April one thousand eight hundred & two

his John X Counts Sen. (Seal) mark Signed sealed and delivered published and declared to be my last will in the presence of these witnesses,

Teste John Hargis

her Lydia X Hargis mark Duritee X Counts

At a court of quarterly session continued & held for Russell County April the 27th 1803. This instrument of writing was exhibited in court as and for the Last will and Testament of John Counts Senor. decd. and proven by the oath of John Hargis a witness thereto and continued for further proof.

And, at a court held for said county the 26th day of July 1803. This instrument of writing was again exhibited in court as and for the Last will and testament of the said John Counts dec'd. and proven by the oath of Duritee Counts a witness thereto and ordered to be recorded.

Teste

Nathan Ellington

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John Counts, Sr.'s Timeline

1734
1734
Opequon, Frederick, VA, USA
1738
1738
Age 4
Newberry, South Carolina, USA
1740
1740
Age 6
Shenandoah, Virginia, USA
1744
1744
Age 10
Shenandoah, Virginia, USA
1744
Age 10
1744
Age 10
Shenandoah, Virginia, USA
1744
Age 10
Shenandoah, Virginia, USA
1753
1753
Age 19
Glade Hollow, Russell, VA
1758
March 1758
Age 24
Shenandoah, Virginia, USA
1765
1765
Age 31
Cleveland, Russell County, Province of Virginia