John Downing, III (1710 - 1793) MP

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Nicknames: "Major John Downing II", "Major John Downing III"
Birthplace: England, United Kingdom
Death: Died in Georgia, United states
Cause of death: Burned at the stake
Occupation: Major, British Army
Managed by: Glenda Elizabeth Chandler
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About John Downing, III

This may be a picture of Major John B. Downing or one of his son who resembled him greatly.

(Ben M. Angel notes: The first permanent photographic print was developed in 1826 in France. Therefore, this was likely a photograph of his son.)

Birth: 1710, England

Death: Oct. 14, 1793

Cherokee South

Cherokee County

Georgia, USA

MAJOR JOHN B. DOWNING

Born About 1710-1720 in England

migrated to the United States Colonies

located in Georgia and

Died in Northumberland County, Virginia

on October 14, 1793.

According to the book by Emmett Starr "the History of the Cherokee" Major John B. Downing was said to have been an Officer in the British Army, who supervised the manufacturer of gun powder for the British troops. Major Downing was one of the white settlers who lived amongst the Cherokee Indians in the 1700's. He was said to have married Hanna (Cherokee) Fawling who was born about 1720 in the Cherokee Nation (East) and she died after 1755. She was the daughter of Redman Fawling and Annie Beehunter. Hanna Fawling was a full-blooded Cherokee and was a member of the Wolf Clan (N Fawling).

Major John B. Downing was the son of then Major John Downing who resided in England, and was born in 1667 and died Feburary, 1717/1718 and Elizabeth Downing born about 1669 in England._______>

Major Downing lived many dangerous adventures while living amongst the Indians. For example in 1752 the Creek Indians attacked the lower Cherokee's and plundered three packhorsemen at the Keowee Village, and those were James Welch, Major John Downing and William Bailus. By 1753 many mixed settlers White and Indian came down from the Cherokee Nation to live at Fort 96 and among them was Major John Downing and family. On any Cherokee list, East or West, you are likely to find names like Welch, Murphy, Downing and Bushyhead names or decendents close together. Major John Downing partnered with James Welch when they worked for James Beamer in the Lower Towns of the Cherokee Nation. Also, the Downing name was closely related to the infamous Vanns of his day, by intermarriage. And the Crittenden, McCarter, Johnson name decended down from the Downing name. In addition to these things, Major John Downing was the great-great-grandfather of "Principal Chief of the Cherokee's" Lewis Downing.

Also in 1760 Major Downing and Benard Hughes fled some unfriendly Cherokee's and stayed at John Vann's house on the Board River in Georgia . These were the types of events that formed family ties that endured and are still written about.

There are other events that are written about Major John B. Downing but finally, again written by Emmett Starr, "Major John B. Downing was captured by the attacking Cherokee's who were not friendly to the British Army at or near Fort 96 in South Carolina, he was tortured, mutilated, and finally burned at the stake. His body was compeletly destroyed by the fire and no burial was recorded. There is a gravestone placed in the area where it is believed he was tortured and died.



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Birth: 1710, England

Death: Oct. 14, 1793

Cherokee South

Cherokee County

Georgia, USA


MAJOR JOHN B. DOWNING

Born About 1710-1720 in England

migrated to the United States Colonies

located in Georgia and

Died in Northumberland County, Virginia

on October 14, 1793.

According to the book by Emmett Starr "the History of the Cherokee" Major John B. Downing was said to have been an Officer in the British Army, who supervised the manufacturer of gun powder for the British troops. Major Downing was one of the white settlers who lived amongst the Cherokee Indians in the 1700's. He was said to have married Hanna (Cherokee) Fawling who was born about 1720 in the Cherokee Nation (East) and she died after 1755. She was the daughter of Redman Fawling and Annie Beehunter. Hanna Fawling was a full-blooded Cherokee and was a member of the Wolf Clan (N Fawling).

Major John B. Downing was the son of then Major John Downing who resided in England, and was born in 1667 and died Feburary, 1717/1718 and Elizabeth Downing born about 1669 in England._______>

Major Downing lived many dangerous adventures while living amongst the Indians. For example in 1752 the Creek Indians attacked the lower Cherokee's and plundered three packhorsemen at the Keowee Village, and those were James Welch, Major John Downing and William Bailus. By 1753 many mixed settlers White and Indian came down from the Cherokee Nation to live at Fort 96 and among them was Major John Downing and family. On any Cherokee list, East or West, you are likely to find names like Welch, Murphy, Downing and Bushyhead names or decendents close together. Major John Downing partnered with James Welch when they worked for James Beamer in the Lower Towns of the Cherokee Nation. Also, the Downing name was closely related to the infamous Vanns of his day, by intermarriage. And the Crittenden, McCarter, Johnson name decended down from the Downey name. In addition to these things, Major John Downing was the great-great-grandfather of "Principal Chief of the Cherokee's" Lewis Downing.

Also in 1760 Major Downing and Benard Hughes fled some unfriendly Cherokee's and stayed at John Vann's house on the Board River in Georgia . These were the types of events that formed family ties that endured and are still written about.

There are other events that are written about Major John B. Downing but finally, again written by Emmett Starr, "Major John B. Downing was captured by the attacking Cherokee's who were not friendly to the British Army at or near Fort 96 in South Carolina, he was tortured, mutilated, and finally burned at the stake. His body was compeletly destroyed by the fire and no burial was recorded.




-------------------- Said to have been burned at the stake by the Cherokee. His wife's name was supposedly "Nannie" although other sources state her name was Hanna Fawling. According to poncy-mclean.net geneology, this John Downing was "the third." It states he was an Ordinance Expert for the British Army. It also lists his parents and grandparents, which I have incorporated in this history. I have (to date) no other source for confirmation or denial of this lineage but have faith that it is correct.

In Emmet Starr's "History of the Cherokee Indians," 1921, reprint 2009, p.335 starts the Downing Family as one of the "Old Families." This is the Major Downing that starts the Downing Family in Starr's book. It says that Maj Downing had four children: George, John, William, and Nannie. It does not list a husband for Nannie but her children are listed as Petit and Crittenden so it is assumed she married at least twice [note: later evidence points to Nannie/Nancy as having married 3 times to: 1) Joshua Petit, 2) Charles Crittenden, and 3) Alexander McSwain.] It has John Downing with Jennie and Nannie listed as wives. George and WIlliam do not have wives listed, however, grandchildren to George are listed. The most curious thing is that William is totally skipped in Starr's "History..." I believe I have "found" him going "backwards" up one side of the family tree in which he is married to Alice.

On the website "familytreemaker.com" in the "Descendants of John Downing, Major," section, it states that Maj Downing had four children: George, John, William, and Nannie (Fawling). "Nannie" was a very common name (and was also used as a nickname for "grandmother") so the records can get confused as to which Nannie is which. I believe that the "Nannie (Fawling)" on this site is actually the sister to George, John, William as I have found evidence (as listed above) to this Nannie having been married 3 times, none to a Fawling.

Things get curious-er in that according to poncy-mclean.net, contribution by Christine Walters, Hannah Fawling may have been ONE of Major John Downing, III's, wives. According to Christine, John's "other" wife was Annie Beehunter who was the full-blooded Cherokee of the Wolf Clan who probably started the Cherokee lineage. Hannah Fawling (Fallin) is supposed to have only roots going back to a very old Virginia family, starting with Charles Fallin from Northumbridge, Virginia, around 1650, and no Cherokee roots whatsoever. [Note: according to other sources, Annie Beehunter is Hannah Fawling's mother.]

In studying Christine Walter's geneology (rootweb.ancestry.com, Thomas Kesterton Family) about HER Hannah Fallin (born 1720) and Hannah's marriage in 1737 to a John Downing (b.1710), I found that her John Downing's parents were John and Elizabeth but that the father died in 1689, 21 years BEFORE her John Downing was born. I also discovered that her John's grandfather's name was William whereas the grandfather of the John Downing here was also a John Downing. She then lists Hannah and John Downing's children as: Charles (b.1738), Elizabeth (b.1740), Hannah (b.1742), Nancy (b. 1743/2), Edward (b. 1750), Sarah (B. 1753) and John (b. after 1754.) Since the John Downing/Nannie couple in Starr's history had their four children in years 1739, 1742 (a second son named John???), 1736, and 1744, then EITHER this John Downing had two wives at the same time OR they are NOT the same John Downings. My vote is that they are not the same couple.

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Maj. John Downing, III's Timeline

1710
1710
England, United Kingdom
1736
1736
Age 26
Cherokee Nation Georgia
1736
Age 26
Province of Georgia
1738
February 4, 1738
Age 28
Cherokee Nation East Georgia, USA
1739
1739
Age 29
Cherokee Nation, Province of Georgia
1740
April 19, 1740
Age 30
Cherokee Nation East, Province of Georgia
1742
April 19, 1742
Age 32
Cherokee Nation East Georgia, USA
1743
1743
Age 33
Cherokee Nation, Province of Georgia
1744
January 20, 1744
Age 34
Cherokee Nation, Probably Province of Georgia
1750
April 22, 1750
Age 40
Cherokee Nation, Province of Georgia