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About John Emery, II
There has been much controversy over the parentage of John and Anthony Emery of newbury over the past years. these and theories that have been are @
It seems the last decade that descendants have settled upon this version:
1 John Emery was born 1546/1856. He married Alice Bante/Banet. She was born 10 MAY 1565.
[Note from D. Kaleita 09-Nov-2010: my research shows 10-May-1565 as the year that John and Alice were MARRIED, and not Alice's date of birth.]
The following "John 2" inserted by D, Kaleita:
2. "John 2 Emery was born ca 157x at Winchester, Hants. and died 29 June 1627 at Romsey, Hants. He married, in 1597 at Romsey, Hants, Agnes Northend who was born 1576 and died ca 16xx both at Romsey, Hants. That John 2 Emery’s wife was named Agnes is noted in a number of documents. That her surname is Northend is noted in the “Revised Genealogical Records of John Emery of Newbury, Ma.” compiled by Judith E. Burns, 1982. Agnes Northend is noted as being born in 1576 as the daughter of Ezekiel and Edna Halsted Northend. But the known Ezekiel Northend who married Edna Halstead was born in 1622 and married Edna Halstead in 1648. It would truly be a rare coincidence if there was another Ezekiel Northend who married an Edna Halstead ca 157x. There was a John Northend who died prior to 1608 who had a son born in 1575. If Agnes, the wife of John 2 Emery, surname was Northend, then in all probability she was the daughter of John Northend who died pr 1608. The other observation concerning Agnes “Northend” is that Hunsley, Yorks, the location of the Northends, is quite a wee bit of distance from Romsey, Hants.
John 2 Emery is not listed in a subsidy (tax roll) during the time frame of 157x to 1600 which indicates that he owned no land and probably had small personal wealth. One would have to assume that he was a tenant farmer. It is possible that he was a carpenter which was the vocation of two of his sons, i.e., Anthony and John 3. Little else of record is known of John 2 Emery and his family.
John 2 and Agnes Northen Emery had as many as six children. There were three sons, i.e., John, Anthony, and Hugh who were respectively baptized 29 March1599, 29 August 1601, and 06 October 1604. Based on Romsey parish records and chronology, it is possible that there were three daughters, i.e., Mary/Margery born ca 160x and died 1610, Ellin, maybe a delayed twin of Anthony, who was baptized 07 Sept. 1601, and Lydia, who was born ca 161x, and married James Bailey in 1640."
3 i. John Emery was born 29 SEP 1598 in Romsey, Hampshire, England, and died 03 NOV 1683 in Newbury, Essex Co., Massachusetts. He married Alice Grantham 26 JUN 1620 in Whiteparish, Wiltshire, England, daughter of Walter Grantham and Eleanor. She was born 1599 in Romsey, Hampshire, England, and died 28 APR 1649 in Newbury, Essex Co., Massachusetts. He married Mary (Shatswell) Webster 29 OCT 1650 in Newbury, Essex Co., Massachusetts, daughter of John Shatswell and Judith Dillingham. She was born ABT 1605 in England, and died 26 APR 1694 in Newbury, Essex Co., Massachusetts.
4 ii. Anthony Emery ) was born 24 AUG 1601 in Romsey, Hampshire, England, and died 30 MAR 1680 in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. He married Elizabeth wife of Anthony Emery BEF 1628. He married Frances Porter 1628 in Romsey, Hampshire, England.
5 iii. Hugh Emery was born BEF 06 OCT 1604 in Romsey, Hampshire, England
his parentage has also been given as Richard Emery & Ellen BUNTINGE - the only sourcing that has been given is as listed
Birth Abt 1548 of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England
Died 1 May 1611 Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
Buried 1 May 1611 Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
Family Ellen BUNTINGE, b. Abt 1552, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England , d. 13 Jan 1616, Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
Children > 1. John Emery, b. 1572, Of Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 25 Jun 1627, Romsey, Hampshire, England
2. Roger Emery, b. Abt 1573, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England , bur. 10 Dec 1624 ; m. ALice [-?-]
3. Ellen Emery, b. Abt 1579, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England m. 28 Nov 1602 Thomas BUNDIE
4. Elizabeth Emery, b. Abt 1581, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England m. Family John BYWORTH
Married 20 Apr 1602 John BYWORTH
5. Richard Emery, b. Abt 1584, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England m. 1 Feb 1609 Agnes MOKES
6. Bridget Emery, b. Abt 1588, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England m. 29 Oct 1609 John CHESSAM
Notes From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
Birth 1572 Of Romsey, Hampshire, England
Died 25 Jun 1627 Romsey, Hampshire, England
Buried 22 Jan 1634 Milton Ernest, Beds, EN
Father Richard Emery, b. Abt 1548, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England , d. 1 May 1611, Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
Mother Ellen BUNTINGE, b. Abt 1552, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England , d. 13 Jan 1616, Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
Sealed P (LDS) 21 Oct 1969 SLAKE
Married 25 Nov 1583 Milton Ernest, Beds, EN
Family 2 Agness Northend, b. 1576, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. Bef 1604, Romsey, Hampshire, England
Married 27 Oct 1597 St. Peters, Rowley, Yorkshire, England
Children 1. Elizabeth Emery, b. Abt 1584/1587, Romsey, Hampshire, England
2. John Emery, b. 1594, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 16 Jun 1594, Romsey, Hampshire, England
3. John Emery, b. 29 Sep 1598, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 3 Nov 1683, Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts
4. Anthony Emery, b. 29 Aug 1601, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 30 Mar 1680, Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts
5. Ellin Emery, b. 7 Sep 1602, Romsey, Hampshire, England
6. Hugh Emery, b. 6 Oct 1604, Romsey, Hampshire, England
7. George Emery, b. 1609, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 20 Feb 1687, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts
8. Margery Emery, b. 14 Sep 1610, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 14 Sep 1614, Romsey, Hampshire, England
9. Edward Emery, b. Abt 1612, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 30 Oct 1637, Mary At Rooting, Essex, England
10. Helena Emery, b. 7 Nov 1624, Romsey, Hampshire, England
Also stated as a possible brother to john and Anthony has been: George Emery was born 1609 in Romsey, Hampshire, England.m. _ He died 20 Feb 1686/7 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.
Other Salem physicans were George Emery who settled in the town in 1636 and sat on the gallows with a rope around his neck in 1668, for an unnatural crime. Everyday Life in the Massachusetts Bay Colony (1935, Reprint 1988) Dover Publishers, NY. George Francis Dow. The following entry from the records of Rev. S. Danforth of Roxbury, Ma. for the date 5 Sep. 1668, recorded in New England Historic Genealogical Register (1880, 34:299) probably refers to the incident and implies the crime. One of Salem was Executed for murdering her child born in fornication. Doctor Emery & ye mother of ye woman sat upon ye Gallows an Hour. Quarterly Courts of Essex co. Massachusetts Vol. 1- VIII Essex Institute, Salem, Ma. 1911-21 is found that he was punished for public drunkeness a least eight times between 1667 and 1674 and forcursing and swearing in 1679.
There is still confusing conflicting data being given - most have occured because of past LDS IGI records - this is on such instance and is th result of people merging records without throughly reading the contents .
Found at http://dkwilde.com/gedcomHTML/hunsaker_f/933.html is the following note the son married his mother or his father married is son's wife
Husband: John EMERY
Born: ABT 1546 at:
Buried: 16 Jun 1549 at:
Wife: Alice BANET
Born: 10 May 1565 at:
Born: 1572 at: of Romsey, Hampshire, England
Died: 25 Jun 1627 at: Romsey, Hampshire, England
Buried: 22 Jan 1634 at: Milton Ernest, Bedfordshire, England
Married: Alice BANTE 10 May 1565 at: St. Bartholomew, Winchester, Hampshire, England
Married: Agnes ALLYN 25 Nov 1583 at: Milton Ernest, Bedfordshire, England
Married: Agnes NORTHEND 27 Oct 1597 at: Romsey, Hampshire, England
This came from, Reminiscences of a Newburyport, Nonagenarian by Sarah Anna Emery (1879) pg. 149-50.
EMERY RECORDS FROM THE PARISH RECORDS OF ROMSEY, HANTS, ENGLAND EXTRACTED FROM
NEHGS REGISTER OCT. 1935 pgs. 376-7
John and Anthony Emery both carpenters, came from Romsey, co., Hants, England, embarked of the James at Southampton in 1635 for New England. The former settled at Newbury, Massachusetts and the latter at Kittery, Maine. In Jan. 1935 Miss Marian K. Dale a former assistant of Miss Lillian J. Redstone and now engaged in independent genealogical research, examined the parish records of Romsey, with the object of obtaining all entries at the proper period under the name Emery and its variants. Miss Dale states that the vicar of Romsey said to her: "Almost everybody who have searched the register has been looking for Emery's". It seems a pity that this work should be constantly repeated and therefore the results of Miss Dale's search are set forth below. The Romsey Registers begin in the year 1569 and were examined for all entries until 1635 and for burials until 1640.
1594 Jun. 16 - - John Emery buried
1597 Oct. 24 - - Thomas Emery and Thomasine Carter married
1599 Nov. 29 - - John Emery s/o John Emery baptized
1601 Aug. 29 - - Anthony Emery s/o John Emery baptized
1601 Sep. 7 - - - Ellin Emery baptized
1604 Oct. 6 - - - Hugh Emery s/o John Emerye baptized
1610 Sep. 14 - - Margery Emory buried
1624 Nov. 7 - - Helena d/o John Emmorie baptized
1626 Nov. 1 - - - Anne Emry buried
1627 Jun. 25 - - John Emry buried
1628 Feb. 3 - - - John s/o John Emry baptized (1628/9)
1631 Sep. 18 - - James s/o Anthony Emry baptized
1632 Mar. 18 - - Anne d/o John Emry baptized (1632/3)
As the registers contain no Emery entries between 1569 and 1594 it seems certain that this family came to Romsey from some other parish about the latter date.
Miss Dale also examined Emery wills and administrations (1502-1652) in the various probate registries for Hampshire at Winchester and found nothing which related to the Emery family of Romsey.
A copy of a Hampshire subsidy roll (1620-28) in the office of Alfred Trego Butler, Windsor herald at the College of Arms, lists Emery's in the parish of N. Baddesley, Besterns, Liphan, and Middletown and Forton but none in Romsey.
Miss Dale also examined the Romsey portion of the Hampshire subsidies of 36 Elizabeth (174/418) and 40 Elizabeth (174/448), Rentals and surveys and 33 Elizabeth (D. L. Misc. Br. 116) and court rolls of Romsey 3,31,35,40 Elizabeth (Portf. 201/42,43,46) all in the public record office, and the account rolls of the manor of Romsey 1358-50 (Harleian rolls I,13,Fo 22 and I, 14) in the British Museum, and found no reference to Emery.
From the entries in the register it appears that the emigrants were the brothers John and Anthony Emery, baptized 1599 and 1602 respectively sons of John who was buried in 1627.
Both brothers married before coming to New England.
James son of Anthony baptized in 1631 was with his father at Kittery.
Of the children of John Emery, emigrant, Helena, baptized in 1624 was doubtless Eleanor who married John Bailey of Newbury and Anne baptized 1632/3 married Newbury, November 25, 1653 James Ordway.
Passenger List of the ship James
In "The Planters of the Commonwealth" by Charles Edward Banks we find the passenger list of the James and this comment: "James of London, William Cooper, Master, three hundred tons. She sailed from Southampton April 5 and arrived June 3 with passengers and cattle. Winthrop calls me master 'Mrs. Graves' and says that 'he had come every year for these seven years'." Among the passengers our emigrants are listed as:
John Emery, 34 of Romsey Hants, Newbury, Carpenter
Anthony Emery of Romsey Hants, Newbury and Kittery, Carpenter
Mrs. Frances Emery
William Kemp, servant to Anthony Emery, Duxbury
There was a total of thirty-six men and fifty men and women aboard from Romsey.
The Rev. Joseph Avery, vicar of Romsey, had come to New England in 1634 and no doubt influenced many of his parishioners to follow; unfortunately, he drowned in 1635 while sailing from Newbury to Marblehead, Massachusetts. As has been noted, there is reason to believe that head lent money at least to John Emery to bring himself and his family.
The passenger list refers to both of the Emery brothers as carpenters, but Anthony is seldom if ever referred to as such in later years. John evidently did follow the carpentry and cabinet making trade in New England, as we have seen, and both may have been so trained. Furthermore, their passage to New England was often better assured if they claimed a trade, even if they had no intention of following it.
John Emery, II's Timeline
Romsey, Hampshire, England
October 27, 1597
Romsey, Hampshire, England
September 29, 1598
Romsey, Hampshire, UK
Romsey, Hampshire, England
June 25, 1627
Romsey, Hampshire, England