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John Emery, II

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Romsey, Hampshire, England
Death: Died in Romsey, Hampshire, England
Immediate Family:

Son of John Emery and Alice Emery
Husband of Agnes Emery and Agnes Emery
Father of Elizabeth Emery; John (child) Emery; Ellen Emery; Hugh Emery; George Emery, Dr. and 5 others
Brother of Thomas Emery; Anthony Emery and Hugh Emery

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About John Emery, II

There has been  much controversy over the parentage of John and Anthony Emery of newbury  over the past years.   these and  theories  that have been  are  

It seems the last decade that descendants have settled upon this version:

1 John Emery was born 1546/1856. He married Alice Bante/Banet. She was born 10 MAY 1565.

[Note from D. Kaleita 09-Nov-2010: my research shows 10-May-1565 as the year that John and Alice were MARRIED, and not Alice's date of birth.]

The following "John 2" inserted by D, Kaleita:

Ahnentafel for siblings DeWolf Melvin STANLEY and Lorraine Ellsworth STANLEY

2. "John 2 Emery was born ca 157x at Winchester, Hants. and died 29 June 1627 at Romsey, Hants. He married, in 1597 at Romsey, Hants, Agnes Northend who was born 1576 and died ca 16xx both at Romsey, Hants. That John 2 Emery’s wife was named Agnes is noted in a number of documents. That her surname is Northend is noted in the “Revised Genealogical Records of John Emery of Newbury, Ma.” compiled by Judith E. Burns, 1982. Agnes Northend is noted as being born in 1576 as the daughter of Ezekiel and Edna Halsted Northend. But the known Ezekiel Northend who married Edna Halstead was born in 1622 and married Edna Halstead in 1648. It would truly be a rare coincidence if there was another Ezekiel Northend who married an Edna Halstead ca 157x. There was a John Northend who died prior to 1608 who had a son born in 1575. If Agnes, the wife of John 2 Emery, surname was Northend, then in all probability she was the daughter of John Northend who died pr 1608. The other observation concerning Agnes “Northend” is that Hunsley, Yorks, the location of the Northends, is quite a wee bit of distance from Romsey, Hants.

John 2 Emery is not listed in a subsidy (tax roll) during the time frame of 157x to 1600 which indicates that he owned no land and probably had small personal wealth. One would have to assume that he was a tenant farmer. It is possible that he was a carpenter which was the vocation of two of his sons, i.e., Anthony and John 3. Little else of record is known of John 2 Emery and his family.

John 2 and Agnes Northen Emery had as many as six children. There were three sons, i.e., John, Anthony, and Hugh who were respectively baptized 29 March1599, 29 August 1601, and 06 October 1604. Based on Romsey parish records and chronology, it is possible that there were three daughters, i.e., Mary/Margery born ca 160x and died 1610, Ellin, maybe a delayed twin of Anthony, who was baptized 07 Sept. 1601, and Lydia, who was born ca 161x, and married James Bailey in 1640."

children:

  • 3 i. John Emery was born 29 SEP 1598 in Romsey, Hampshire, England, and died 03 NOV 1683 in Newbury, Essex Co., Massachusetts. He married Alice Grantham 26 JUN 1620 in Whiteparish, Wiltshire, England, daughter of Walter Grantham and Eleanor. She was born 1599 in Romsey, Hampshire, England, and died 28 APR 1649 in Newbury, Essex Co., Massachusetts. He married Mary (Shatswell) Webster 29 OCT 1650 in Newbury, Essex Co., Massachusetts, daughter of John Shatswell and Judith Dillingham. She was born ABT 1605 in England, and died 26 APR 1694 in Newbury, Essex Co., Massachusetts.
  • 4 ii. Anthony Emery ) was born 24 AUG 1601 in Romsey, Hampshire, England, and died 30 MAR 1680 in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. He married Elizabeth wife of Anthony Emery BEF 1628. He married Frances Porter 1628 in Romsey, Hampshire, England.
  • 5 iii. Hugh Emery was born BEF 06 OCT 1604 in Romsey, Hampshire, England
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his parentage has also been given as Richard Emery & Ellen BUNTINGE - the only sourcing that has been given is as listed

Richard Emery,

  • Birth Abt 1548 of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England
  • Gender Male
  • Died 1 May 1611 Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
  • Buried 1 May 1611 Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
 
Ellen BUNTINGE,  
  • b. Abt 1552, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England ,
  • d. 13 Jan 1616, Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
  

Children

  • 1. John Emery, b. 1572, Of Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 25 Jun 1627, Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • 2. Roger Emery, b. Abt 1573, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England , bur. 10 Dec 1624 ; m. ALice [-?-]
  • 3. Ellen Emery, b. Abt 1579, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England m. 28 Nov 1602 Thomas BUNDIE
  • 4. Elizabeth Emery, b. Abt 1581, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England Married 20 Apr 1602 John BYWORTH
  • 5. Richard Emery, b. Abt 1584, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England m. 1 Feb 1609 Agnes MOKES
  • 6. Bridget Emery, b. Abt 1588, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England m. 29 Oct 1609 John CHESSAM

Notes From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.

  • John Emery
  • Birth 1572 Of Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • Gender Male
  • Died 25 Jun 1627 Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • Buried 22 Jan 1634 Milton Ernest, Beds, EN
  • Father Richard Emery, b. Abt 1548, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England , d. 1 May 1611, Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
  • Mother Ellen BUNTINGE, b. Abt 1552, of, Roxton, Bedfordshire, England , d. 13 Jan 1616, Roxton, Bedsfordshire, England
  • Sealed P (LDS) 21 Oct 1969 SLAKE

Married 25 Nov 1583 Milton Ernest, Beds, EN

Family 2 Agness Northend, b. 1576, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. Bef 1604, Romsey, Hampshire, England Married 27 Oct 1597 St. Peters, Rowley, Yorkshire, England Children

  • 1. Elizabeth Emery, b. Abt 1584/1587, Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • 2. John Emery, b. 1594, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 16 Jun 1594, Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • 3. John Emery, b. 29 Sep 1598, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 3 Nov 1683, Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts
  • 4. Anthony Emery, b. 29 Aug 1601, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 30 Mar 1680, Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts
  • 5. Ellin Emery, b. 7 Sep 1602, Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • 6. Hugh Emery, b. 6 Oct 1604, Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • 7. George Emery, b. 1609, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 20 Feb 1687, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts
  • 8. Margery Emery, b. 14 Sep 1610, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 14 Sep 1614, Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • 9. Edward Emery, b. Abt 1612, Romsey, Hampshire, England , d. 30 Oct 1637, Mary At Rooting, Essex, England
  • 10. Helena Emery, b. 7 Nov 1624, Romsey, Hampshire, England

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There is still confusing conflicting data being given - most have occurred because of past LDS IGI records - this is on such instance and is th result of people merging records without thoroughly reading the contents .

Found at Descendents of Hartmann Hunsaker is the following note the son married his mother or his father married is son's wife

Husband: John EMERY

  • Born: ABT 1546 at:
  • Buried: 16 Jun 1549 at:
  • Wife: Alice BANET Born: 10 May 1565 at:
 

CHILDREN:

John EMERY

  • Born: 1572 at: of Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • Died: 25 Jun 1627 at: Romsey, Hampshire, England
  • Buried: 22 Jan 1634 at: Milton Ernest, Bedfordshire, England
  • Married: Alice BANTE 10 May 1565 at: St. Bartholomew, Winchester, Hampshire, England
  • Married: Agnes ALLYN 25 Nov 1583 at: Milton Ernest, Bedfordshire, England
  • Married: Mary
  • Married: Agnes NORTHEND 27 Oct 1597 at: Romsey, Hampshire, England
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PARISH RECORDS

EMERY RECORDS FROM THE PARISH RECORDS OF ROMSEY, HANTS, ENGLAND EXTRACTED FROM

NEHGS REGISTER OCT. 1935 pgs. 376-7

John and Anthony Emery both carpenters, came from Romsey, co., Hants, England, embarked of the James at Southampton in 1635 for New England. The former settled at Newbury, Massachusetts and the latter at Kittery, Maine. In Jan. 1935 Miss Marian K. Dale a former assistant of Miss Lillian J. Redstone and now engaged in independent genealogical research, examined the parish records of Romsey, with the object of obtaining all entries at the proper period under the name Emery and its variants. Miss Dale states that the vicar of Romsey said to her: "Almost everybody who have searched the register has been looking for Emery's". It seems a pity that this work should be constantly repeated and therefore the results of Miss Dale's search are set forth below. The Romsey Registers begin in the year 1569 and were examined for all entries until 1635 and for burials until 1640.

  • 1594 Jun. 16 - - John Emery buried
  • 1597 Oct. 24 - - Thomas Emery and Thomasine Carter married
  • 1599 Nov. 29 - - John Emery s/o John Emery baptized
  • 1601 Aug. 29 - - Anthony Emery s/o John Emery baptized
  • 1601 Sep. 7 - - - Ellin Emery baptized
  • 1604 Oct. 6 - - - Hugh Emery s/o John Emerye baptized
  • 1610 Sep. 14 - - Margery Emory buried
  • 1624 Nov. 7 - - Helena d/o John Emmorie baptized
  • 1626 Nov. 1 - - - Anne Emry buried
  • 1627 Jun. 25 - - John Emry buried
  • 1628 Feb. 3 - - - John s/o John Emry baptized (1628/9)
  • 1631 Sep. 18 - - James s/o Anthony Emry baptized
  • 1632 Mar. 18 - - Anne d/o John Emry baptized (1632/3)

As the registers contain no Emery entries between 1569 and 1594 it seems certain that this family came to Romsey from some other parish about the latter date.

Miss Dale also examined Emery wills and administrations (1502-1652) in the various probate registries for Hampshire at Winchester and found nothing which related to the Emery family of Romsey.

A copy of a Hampshire subsidy roll (1620-28) in the office of Alfred Trego Butler, Windsor herald at the College of Arms, lists Emery's in the parish of N. Baddesley, Besterns, Liphan, and Middletown and Forton but none in Romsey.

Miss Dale also examined the Romsey portion of the Hampshire subsidies of 36 Elizabeth (174/418) and 40 Elizabeth (174/448), Rentals and surveys and 33 Elizabeth (D. L. Misc. Br. 116) and court rolls of Romsey 3,31,35,40 Elizabeth (Portf. 201/42,43,46) all in the public record office, and the account rolls of the manor of Romsey 1358-50 (Harleian rolls I,13,Fo 22 and I, 14) in the British Museum, and found no reference to Emery.

From the entries in the register it appears that the emigrants were the brothers John and Anthony Emery, baptized 1599 and 1602 respectively sons of John who was buried in 1627.

Both brothers married before coming to New England.

James son of Anthony baptized in 1631 was with his father at Kittery.

Of the children of John Emery, emigrant, Helena, baptized in 1624 was doubtless Eleanor who married John Bailey of Newbury and Anne baptized 1632/3 married Newbury, November 25, 1653 James Ordway.

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Passenger List of the ship James

In "The Planters of the Commonwealth" by Charles Edward Banks we find the passenger list of the James and this comment: "James of London, William Cooper, Master, three hundred tons. She sailed from Southampton April 5 and arrived June 3 with passengers and cattle. Winthrop calls me master 'Mrs. Graves' and says that 'he had come every year for these seven years'." Among the passengers our emigrants are listed as:

John Emery, 34 of Romsey Hants, Newbury, Carpenter

  • Mrs. ......Emery
  • Anne Emery
  • Elinor Emery
  • John Emery

Anthony Emery of Romsey Hants, Newbury and Kittery, Carpenter

  • Mrs. Frances Emery
  • Rebecca Emery
  • William Kemp, servant to Anthony Emery, Duxbury

There was a total of thirty-six men and fifty men and women aboard from Romsey.

The Rev. Joseph Avery, vicar of Romsey, had come to New England in 1634 and no doubt influenced many of his parishioners to follow; unfortunately, he drowned in 1635 while sailing from Newbury to Marblehead, Massachusetts. As has been noted, there is reason to believe that head lent money at least to John Emery to bring himself and his family.

The passenger list refers to both of the Emery brothers as carpenters, but Anthony is seldom if ever referred to as such in later years. John evidently did follow the carpentry and cabinet making trade in New England, as we have seen, and both may have been so trained. Furthermore, their passage to New England was often better assured if they claimed a trade, even if they had no intention of following it.



            
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1576
1576
Romsey, Hampshire, England
1587
1587
Age 11
Romsey, Hampshire, England
1594
1594
Age 18
Romsey, Hampshire, England
1597
October 27, 1597
Age 21
Romsey, Hampshire, England
1598
September 29, 1598
Age 22
Romsey, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
1600
1600
Age 24
1601
August 29, 1601
Age 25
Romsey, Hampshire, England
1602
September 7, 1602
Age 26
Romsey, Hampshire, England
1604
October 6, 1604
Age 28
Romsey, Hampshire, England
1609
1609
Age 33
Romsey, Hampshire, England