John Green, Jr. (1813 - 1882)

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Birthplace: Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England
Death: Died in Alice, Amatole, Eastern Cape, South Africa
Managed by: Eldon Clark (C)
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About John Green, Jr.

1820 British Settler

John Green 6, together with his parents and 6 siblings, were members of William Menezes' Party of 51 Settlers on the Weymouth.

Party originated from Kent.

Departed London, 7 January 1820. Arrived Table Bay, Cape Town on 16 April 1820. Final Port - Algoa Bay, Port Elizabeth 15 May 1820.

Area Allocated to the Party : Reitfontein then Kareiga River

Children :

  • Hannah Green, 9
  • Mary Green, 7
  • John Green, 6 (Later married Margaret Kirkman of George Smith's Party)
  • James Green 5
  • Thomas Green 3
  • William Green 2
  • Joseph Green - (born at sea)

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OBITUARY: Grahamstown Journal, Mon., 13 February, 1882 Page 3, col. 1. DEATH AT ALICE. The Alice Times regrets to record the death of Mr. John Green, which sad event took place in Alice on Sunday afternoon last. The deceased had been ailing for some years back, and some months ago when he came here he was in a low state of health. The late Mr. John Green has brothers living both in Alice and Balfour, was formerly a resident of Grahamstown and Alexandria. Laterly for many years he practised as a law agent in Stockenstrom, where he was well known, and gained a reputation of being a legal practitioner of marked ability.

DEATH_DATE: Family Records have the year 1883. The publication date for the newspaper death notice was Monday 13 Feb 1882. In 1883 the 13th was a Tuesday and the Sunday preceeding was the 4th. In 1882 however, the 13th was indeed a Monday and the Sunday preceeding was the 5th. I use 1882.

His father was a British soldier, took part in the Peninsular War, and was awarded a tract of land in South Africa for his service. His parents' family emigrated from England to South Africa in 1820, setting sail from Portsmouth aboard the ship Weymouth. John Jr. was seven.

In South Africa John Jr. became a school teacher and eventually was admitted to the bar and became a lawyer.

The family of John and Margaret Kirkman Green joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saits in 1854 and their lives changed forever. Elder William H. Walker wrote of his baptism: "I went farther up the country to the borders of the Kaffir land to extend my labors. I found John Green, the one of my dream, on Kat River; his wife had been baptized some time before, but he was favorable impressed. I had lost my horse which Brother Parker had given me, which left me on foot. A few days later as I was about to start on my regular circuit, Mr. Green came to me and tried to get a horse for me, for he did not like to see me go on foot. I told him if he desired to be baptized I would stay, if not I would continue my journey. Before I had gone far he overtook me with a horse and asked me to get on and ride. I did so; we travelled on for about two miles, when we came to the forks of the road; here we talked for some time, he insisting on me going back. I said I would go on one condition, as he hesitated, I continued my journey. He called to me and said if I would go back and stay till the next day, he would be baptized. I readily consented and returned. In the meantime he went some twenty miles away on business, and when he returned he had with him the horse I had lost some three weeks before. On September 29, 1854, I baptized John Green and confirmed him a member of the Church." Many years later Alexander Dawson of Layton, Utah said that John Green was the best Gospel speaker he had ever heard in his life.

In 1863 His wife Margaret and all their children except Mary Ann left South Africa for Utah. John remained to dispose of their property and to settle an estate for which he was solicitor. He was to come to Utah the following year, but for some reason or other, never came.

(edited from a history in my grandmother's records - Author's name not given)

Son of John Green & Ann Rowney.

These children are not listed in the family links below:

  • John Albert
  • Mary Ann
  • Margaret Matilda.

Family links:

Spouse:
  • Margaret Kirkman Green (1817 - 1883)*
Children:
  • James Kirkman Green (1838 - 1903)*
  • George William Green (1841 - 1908)*
  • John Green (1846 - 1930)*
  • Henry Benjamin Green (1851 - 1875)*
  • Margaret Matilda Green Peterson (1853 - 1919)*
  • Joseph Brigham Green (1856 - 1916)*
  • Hannah Martha Green Williams (1857 - 1938)*

Burial: Alice Cemetery Cape Town Western Cape, South Africa -------------------- Birth: Dec. 23, 1813 Wellingborough Northamptonshire, England Death: Feb. 5, 1882, South Africa

My 2nd great grandfather.

OBITUARY: Grahamstown Journal, Mon., 13 February, 1882 Page 3, col. 1. DEATH AT ALICE. The Alice Times regrets to record the death of Mr. John Green, which sad event took place in Alice on Sunday afternoon last. The deceased had been ailing for some years back, and some months ago when he came here he was in a low state of health. The late Mr. John Green has brothers living both in Alice and Balfour, was formerly a resident of Grahamstown and Alexandria. Laterly for many years he practised as a law agent in Stockenstrom, where he was well known, and gained a reputation of being a legal practitioner of marked ability.

DEATH_DATE: Family Records have the year 1883. The publication date for the newspaper death notice was Monday 13 Feb 1882. In 1883 the 13th was a Tuesday and the Sunday preceeding was the 4th. In 1882 however, the 13th was indeed a Monday and the Sunday preceeding was the 5th. I use 1882.

His father was a British soldier, took part in the Peninsular War, and was awarded a tract of land in South Africa for his service. His parents' family emigrated from England to South Africa in 1820, setting sail from Portsmouth aboard the ship Weymouth. John Jr. was seven.

In South Africa John Jr. became a school teacher and eventually was admitted to the bar and became a lawyer.

The family of John and Margaret Kirkman Green joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saits in 1854 and their lives changed forever. Elder William H. Walker wrote of his baptism: "I went farther up the country to the borders of the Kaffir land to extend my labors. I found John Green, the one of my dream, on Kat River; his wife had been baptized some time before, but he was favorable impressed. I had lost my horse which Brother Parker had given me, which left me on foot. A few days later as I was about to start on my regular circuit, Mr. Green came to me and tried to get a horse for me, for he did not like to see me go on foot. I told him if he desired to be baptized I would stay, if not I would continue my journey. Before I had gone far he overtook me with a horse and asked me to get on and ride. I did so; we travelled on for about two miles, when we came to the forks of the road; here we talked for some time, he insisting on me going back. I said I would go on one condition, as he hesitated, I continued my journey. He called to me and said if I would go back and stay till the next day, he would be baptized. I readily consented and returned. In the meantime he went some twenty miles away on business, and when he returned he had with him the horse I had lost some three weeks before. On September 29, 1854, I baptized John Green and confirmed him a member of the Church." Many years later Alexander Dawson of Layton, Utah said that John Green was the best Gospel speaker he had ever heard in his life.

In 1863 His wife Margaret and all their children except Mary Ann left South Africa for Utah. John remained to dispose of their property and to settle an estate for which he was solicitor. He was to come to Utah the following year, but for some reason or other, never came.

(edited from a history in my grandmother's records - Author's name not given)

Son of John Green & Ann Rowney.

These children are not listed in the family links below: John Albert, Mary Ann.


Family links:

Spouse:
 Margaret Kirkman Green (1817 - 1883)*

Children:
 James Kirkman Green (1838 - 1903)*
 George William Green (1841 - 1908)*
 John Green (1846 - 1930)*
 Henry Benjamin Green (1851 - 1875)*
 Margaret Matilda Green Peterson (1853 - 1919)*
 Joseph Brigham Green (1856 - 1916)*
 Hannah Martha Green Williams (1857 - 1938)*
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Burial: Alice Cemetery Cape Town Western Cape, South Africa


Created by: VaunaMri Record added: Jan 04, 2009 Find A Grave Memorial# 32623519

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John Green, Jr.'s Timeline

1813
December 23, 1813
Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England
1835
December 23, 1835
Age 22
Grahamstown, Cape, South Africa
1837
January 7, 1837
Age 23
Grahamstown, Western District, Eastern Cape, South Africa
1838
September 25, 1838
Age 24
Grahamstown, Cape, South Africa
1841
May 18, 1841
Age 27
Elephant Hook, Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa
1843
November 2, 1843
Age 29
1846
March 24, 1846
Age 32
Grahamstown, Cape, South Africa
1851
February 22, 1851
Age 37
Phillipstown,, Cape, South Africa
1853
November 1, 1853
Age 39
Ft. Beaufort, Crown Colony South Affrica
1857
April 27, 1857
Age 43
South Africa