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About John Isaac Bates, Sr
[The following is an excerpt from the Bates-Family-History-1.pdf]
In The Beginning
“In the sixteenth century, the Bates and the Estes forefathers lived in Kent County, England. The area is marked with a green dot on the map of Southern England below. It is not known if they knew each other but they did live in the same county at the same time. One of the features of Kent County, it is where the White Cliffs of Dover are located, so we can be pretty sure that the Bates and the Estes Ancestors viewed these cliffs at one time or another...... The first Bates that left a mark in American history was John Isaac Bates born May 23, 1598 in Kent County, England. John Isaac Bates’ parents were: (estimated birth dates are in parentheses) John Bates (1576) Martha Mallory John Bates’ father was: William Bates (1550) Mother’s name unknown William Bates’ parents were: William Bate (notice spelling) (1510) Elizabeth Warcop (est. 1496) William Bate’s parents were: Robert Bate (1486) Katherine ** of England (About 1486) Robert Bate’s parents were: Richard Bate (About 1454) Leona (About 1460) "Between John Isaac Bates’ 8 th an 18 th birthdays, Sir Walter Raleigh was imprisoned in the Tower of London. However, in 1616 Raleigh was paroled from the Tower of London, after which he went on another expedition and attacked a Spanish Settlement in Orinoco (now Venezuela) where he was searching for “El Dorado”, the fabled city of gold. The expedition failed, Raleigh sailed up the East coast of America, without stopping, before returning to England to be tried and executed for treason on October 29, 1618 when John Isaac Bates was 20 years and 4 months old. "When John Isaac Bates was 15 years old, the Indian Chief, Powhatan’s daughter, Pocahontas was captured close to Jamestown. (Incidentally, Pocahontas means “frisky” or “playful” in the Powhatan language.) He was 16 years old when Pocahontas helped negotiate a peace treaty between the Jamestown settlers and the Indians and married John Rolfe, one of the negotiators. He was 18 years old when the Governor of Virginia, John Rolfe, Pocahontas and ten other Powhatan Indians sailed to England where Pocahontas and the Indians were essentially displayed to the English. .....
“John Isaac Bates was 19 years old when news was received of Pocahontas’ death at Gravesend, England. A contemporary of John Isaac Bates was Sylvester Estes who lived in Ringwould, Kent County. Sylvester was two years older than John Isaac Bates and had a son named Abraham Estes, Sr. who was a linen weaver in Sandwich, Kent County and who
immigrated to America in 1682.
“Also in Kent County in the 16 th century was a wealthy merchant named Abraham
Piersey and John Isaac Bates was one of his servants. John Isaac’s parents may have also been servants – but at this time that is unknown. Piersey resided at Maidstone, Kent, England which is about 35 miles west of where the Estes ancestors lived. He sailed to Jamestown, Virginia in 1616 on the ship 'Susan' to look over prospects in America. He returned to England the same year, again on the “Susan” apparently determined to immigrate. He sailed to Jamestown again in 1617 aboard the “George”. It is not clear when he returned to England but we do know that he was in Jamestown in August of 1619 (when he purchased the first black slaves brought to America) and he was in England in 1623 when he shipped his daughters and servants to Jamestown aboard the “Southampton”. It was during this period of time that Piersey’s wife, Elizabeth Draper, died in England, so when Abraham did return to Jamestown he was a widower.
Coming To America
“So, on January 20, 1624, 24 year old John Isaac Bates set foot in Jamestown after crossing the Atlantic on the Southampton and became the first Bates family ancestor to come to America. He was one of 21 passengers on the ship that were servants of Abraham Piersey. Piersey’s two daughters aged 11 and 15 were also on board. To put the thinking in 1624 into perspective, Galileo was just inventing his telescope and working on the theory that the sun did not revolve around the earth but the opposite. It would be 8 years later before Galileo published a “novel” where one of the characters alleges that the earth revolves around the sun – a book that got him punished by the Pope via the Roman Inquisition.
“The same year that John Isaac Bates arrived, Piersey purchased a tract of land up the
James River about 20 miles from Jamestown named Flowerdew Hundred. It was owned by the then Governor of Virginia, Yeardley, who had been given the tract by the Chief of the Weyanoke Indians in 1617. In 1618 Yeardley added 1000 acres to it and named it after his wife, Flowerdieu and it became “Flowerdew Hundred” which today is still noted on the Virginia maps (red circles on the map on the next page).
“Piersey renamed it “Piersey Hundred” and setup his plantation at that location. On the
next page is a modern day map of Jamestown and surrounding area. Piersey Hundred is denoted by a red circle up the James River from Jamestown.
“John Isaac Bates was put to work on the Piersey Hundred and is counted as one of 28
servants at the plantation in the Virginia Census of 1624. One of the other servants was William Garrett, a brick layer that is probably a relative of my ancestors. Growing tobacco was the thing to do when John Isaac Bates arrived in his new country. Ever since 1614 (when John Isaac was 16 and still living in England) John Rolfe had started growing tobacco at Jamestown. Apparently with the help of Pocahontas he became an expert on it and in 1616, what has been called the most momentous event of the 17 th century, Rolfe’s first shipment of tobacco to London was sold. Tobacco became the rage, tobacco and nothing else. There are reports of it being grown in the very streets of Jamestown. By 1619 (four years before John Isaac Bates’ arrival), 10 tons of tobacco had been sold to Europe and Jamestown was a boomtown. The export business was going so well the colonists used tobacco for money bringing over 90 young women from England and buying 20 blacks for slaves. Concerning black slaves, the first had been bought by Abraham Piersey when according to John Rolfe’s diary, “About the last of August (1619) came in a dutch man of warre that sold us twenty negars” By the time that John Isaac Bates was 40, the area was prosperous and was called the “Tobacco Coast” “John Isaac Bates was likely an indentured servant and therefore would have to work for Piersey for seven years. But, servant or not, within 5 months of arriving, he met and married (on May 15, 1624) Mary Elizabeth Winston born August 12, 1605 in England. I can not find the time and ship on which Mary Elizabeth Winston immigrated but I doubt that she was one of the 90 “young maids to make wives” for the Jamestown men that had arrived 5 years earlier – since she would have been only 14 at that time To put John Isaac Bates’ place in history in perspective, when the first Estes, Abraham Estes, Sr. immigrated to America in 1680 (also as an indentured servant), he had been dead for 14 years; his son George Bates had been dead for 3 years; and his grandson, John Bates II (the Quaker) was 25 years old and well on his way to becoming a wealthy merchant. Also, John Bates II (the Quaker) was a young man when President Thomas Jefferson’s ancestor also named Thomas Jefferson immigrated and settled a few miles upstream on the James River from the well-known Flowerdew Hundred. Jefferson’s settlement location is the green dot on the page 9 map.
Children of John Isaac BATES and Mary Elizabeth Winston are:
George BATES was born May 23, 1625 in York Co., VA and died April 24, 1677 in Skimino, York Co., VA. John Bates I was born 1627 in York Co., VA. Anne Bates was born 1630 in York Co., VA Alice Bates was born 1632 in York Co., VA. Susannah Bates was born 1635 in York Co., VA. Elizabeth Bates was born 1637 in York Co., VA.
“After Abraham Piersey died in October of 1628, (four years after John Isaac Bates
landed at Jamestown) his daughter, Elizabeth, inherited the plantation and restored it to its original name, “Flowerdew Hundred”. Some time, thereafter, John Isaac and wife, Mary Elizabeth, apparently became independent farmers.
“John Isaac Bates died on March 3, 1666 at the age of 68. He had a will, a copy of which
is reproduced below with grammar and spelling unchanged.
"In the name of God, Amen
I John Bates of the County of York in Middletowne parish being very sick and weak yet in perfect memorie do here make my last will and testament. FIRST I comitt my soul to my Creator and Redeemer, Next my body to the earth to be buried in Xtian burial at ye disposing of my wife and for my other worldly estate as followeth, ITEM I give and bequeath unto my eldest daughter Anne Bellbee one pide cowe called Primrose to be delivered after my decease. ITEM I give and bequeath to my sonne George Bates one cowe called Souarkin to be delivered after my decease. ITEM I give and bequeath unto my daughter Alse Deane one two year old Heifer called Marigold to be delivered to her after my decease. ITEM I give and bequeath unto John Bates my youngest sonne one cowe called Cole and one two year old heifer called Stone and one cowe calf to be delivered him after my decease, and likewise one featherbed, bowlster and likewise I give all my land which I now hold by patent unto my said sonne John Bates, likewise I give unto my sonne John Bates one younge sowe with pigge to be delivered after my decease. ITEM I give and bequeath unto my wife Elizabeth Bates all my other estate moveable not moveable and likewise my will is that my wife shall enjoy my land during her life. Furthermore I make my wife Elizabeth Bates my whole sole Executrix of what estate I have not bequeathed to my children, and I doe appoint my oldest son George Bates my overseer of this my last will and Testament to see it performed, as witness my hand this 21st day of September 1666 Furthermore I the sd. John Bates do bequeath to my wife Elizabeth three barrells and a halfe of corne to be at her disposing. I doe give and bequeath to my sonne George Bates my best hatt and Cloth coat and breeches. I doe give and bequeath to my sonne John Bates one hogshead of tobacco and one young horse, my son in respect thereof to pay all my debts in Generall.
“Note that oldest son George Bates, was appointed “overseer”. Also, note that the will is
dated after his death – so either the will should have been dated 1665 or his date of death should have been 1667.....”
In 1623, JOHN ISAAC BATES, 23 years old, arrived aboard the ship, "Southampton". He was the servant of Abraham Piersey, living on "Pierseys Hundred" ( plantation) in 1624, & must have married ELIZABETH WINSTON shortly after since their 1st son was born in May of 1625.
He became a farmer and died in about 1666. His will leaves principally livestock to his heirs (the cows: Primrose, Souarkin, Marigold, Cole & Stone; and "one younge sowe with pigge") though tobacco and "corne" are also mentioned. Since Quakers arrived in Virginia as early as 1655, & Quaker George Fox visited in 1672-73, his son GEORGE BATES may have become a Friend while JOHN ISAAC BATES was still alive. The BATES family would become leaders in the Quaker movement and were members of the "Skimino Meeting of the Society of Friends" (Quakers), which was started around 1690 at Skimino Creek just west of Williamsburg. Many times the homestead was used as the Meeting House of the Quakers in the early days of the Society. (There is an interesting report of the excavation of the BATES site near Williamsburg, the site of the store and home of his grandson.)
Unfortunately for those who descended through John and Elizabeth's daughter Susannah and who are trying to certify some family Quaker roots, her husband Stephen Tarleton was not a Quaker by any measure. He was charged by a servant girl with fathering her child, participated in and pardoned for his involvement in "Bacon's Rebellion", and was eventually arrested for inciting the "Tobacco Riots."
Elizabeth Bate's lineage can be traced back to 1623, when John Bates, who was born about 1598, arrived in Jamestown, probably from Kent Co. near Canterbury in England. He is listed as a passenger aboard the Southhampton, a 180-ton ship bringing provisions and 57 new settlers from England to help rebuild the Virginia Colony that had been shattered by Indian attacks. At first, John worked as an indentured servant on the plantation known as Flowerdieu Hundred belonging to Abraham Piercey. He soon paid off his indenture and was listed in the 1626 census as being a merchant.
John (1) married Elizabeth Winston, the daughter of Sir Isaac Winston, and the couple had six children. John (1) patented 50 acres of land lying at the middle plantation butting entirely upon the old paile (palisado) (middle plantation is near what is now Williamsburg.)
He and the family prospered, and by 1719, when his grandson, John (3),died, the estate was valued at nearly 2000 British pounds and included 2500 acres of land, 37 slaves, and two grist mills.
John Isaac Bates's Timeline
May 23, 1598
Canterbury, Kent, England
November 17, 1598
Lydd, Kent, England
February 21, 1601
Lydd, Kent, England
Immigrated to Virginia on the "Southampton" in 1623.
March 31, 1624
(from Deetz, Flowerdew Hundred, The Archaeology of a Virginia Plantation,
THE MUSTER OF THE INHABITANTS
THE MUSTER OF MR GRIVELL POOLEY MINISTER
THE MUSTER OF HUMFREY KENT
THE MUSTER OF THOMAS DOUGHTIE
THE MUSTER OF EDWARD AUBORN
THE MUSTER OF WILLIAM BAKER
THE MUSTER OF JOHN WOODSON
THE MUSTER OF EDWARD THRENORDEN
THE MUSTER OF NICHOLAS BALY
THE MUSTER OF JOHN LIPPS
THE MUSTER OF MR ABRAHAM PEIRSEYS SERVANTS
EDWARD HUBBERSTEAD 26 }
JOHN UPTON aged 26 on the Bona Nova 1622
ALICE THOROWDEN }
PROVISIONS, ARMES ETC. of Mr PIERSEY at Peirseys hundred: Corne and Pease,
Mr SAMUELL ARGALLS CATTELL: Neat Cattell young and old, 8
DEAD at Peirseys hundred Anno Dni 1624
May 23, 1625
Skiminon Bruton Parish, York, Virginia
Middletown, Brunton Parish, York, Virginia, United States