John Kirkman, SV/PROG (1785 - 1835)

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Birthplace: Manchester, Greater Manchester, England, United Kingdom
Death: Died in Fort Beaufort, Amatole, Eastern Cape, South Africa
Managed by: Bruce Ian Trollip
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About John Kirkman, SV/PROG

Sue Mackay <rhoosesue@outlook.com>

SA List <south-africa-l@rootsweb.com>, ZA-IB List <south-africa-immigrants-british-l@rootsweb.com>, south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com


In my quest to add as much pre 1820 additional information as I can from original images on the eggsa site, I came across a marriage at the Collegiate Church of St.Mary, St.Denys and St.George (later Manchester Cathedral) between John KIRKMAN and Mary HEALES on 7 December 1806. John was a weaver, and their first child was baptised in the same church in April 1808. I thought this a more likely marriage than the one listed on all the various online trees, which give his wife as Mary Alice ASHWORTH, with a marriage in Cheshire (no parish given). I contacted Peter Kirkman to see if there is any proof amongst South African records as to what her maiden name was, and he tells me that there isn't. The Cheshire marriage seems to have originated from a submitted IGI entry which has been imported into many trees.

I sent Peter the image of the Manchester marriage and he had the bright idea of comparing the signature with the signature of John KIRKMAN on the 1823 Settler Statement. He has had a handwriting expert look at the signatures, and allowing for the fact that the marriage one was squeezed into a small space, the match seems very good. We are therefore pretty sure that Mary HEALES was John's first wife. The surname is a bit unclear. She made her mark, and the vicar appears to have written the name as HEALSE in one place and HEALES in another.

The signatures, as well as information on the marriage and the baptisms of the children born in the UK, can be viewed athttp://www.eggsa.org/1820-settlers/index.php/additional-information/k-surnames/1793-kirkman-john-extra-data

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John Kirkman, SV/PROG's Timeline

1785
May 26, 1785
Manchester, Greater Manchester, England, United Kingdom
1807
May 20, 1807
Age 21
Kiwi Barracks, Wiltshire, United Kingdom
1808
January 26, 1808
Age 22
Manchester, Greater Manchester, England, United Kingdom
1809
November 15, 1809
Age 24
Manchester, Greater Manchester, UK
1813
1813
Age 27
1814
December 9, 1814
Age 29
Manchester, Greater Manchester, England, United Kingdom
1817
April 11, 1817
Age 31
Manchester, Lancashire, England
1819
June 14, 1819
Age 34
Manchester, Greater Manchester, England, United Kingdom
1822
August 6, 1822
Age 37
August 6, 1822
Age 37