John of Norwich Loveland, Jr. (c.1556 - 1649)

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Birthplace: Catheryne Hill, Guildford, Surrey, England
Death: Died in St. Lawrence, Norwich, England
Occupation: Weaver
Managed by: Bill Krueger
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About John of Norwich Loveland, Jr.

The Facts: We can now say with some certainty that Widow Loveland's husband was John Loveland, baptised 11-Sep-1599 at St.Lawrence, Norwich, the son of John Loveland a prominent citizen of that city. Like his father, John first became a worsted weaver before moving to London to become involved with shipping. His elder brother William (bap 1584) and younger brothers Jeremy (bap 1605) and Robert (bap 1607) were also merchants. John and Jeremy owned part shares in ships from time to time. Their only other brother, Joseph, became a priest and his memorial can be seen in Norwich Catherdral.

The fateful voyage to the New World occurred sometime before 3 February 1639 when John's brother Robert was granted Letters of Administration in London, John having died 'in parts beyond the sea' probably six month or so earlier. We cannot yet say for sure whether the Widow was Elizabeth Busfield who married John Loveland, a Spanish Merchant, in 1631 but this is certainly a possibility.

John left two sons John and Thomas who grew up with their mother in Connecticut. Work continues to locate the birth details of John and Thomas, but the evidence of their grandfather's 1649 will (John of Norwich) suggests that John was the elder. It is possible that the Widow also had a daughter Mary, born about 1644 but this child was certainly not by her husband John. The Widow remarried Thomas Edwards around 1651 and had a daughter Ruth.

Available evidence suggests that the Widow's son John married but had no issue while his brother Thomas married Charity Hart by whom he had nine children.

It is Thomas Loveland from whom the majority of North American Lovelands are descended.

The Robert Loveland who appears frequently in the New England archives until at least 1668 was the Widow's brother-in-law, her late husband's brother.

Brother Jeremy also died relatively young - at the age of 45. Letters of Administration were granted to his brother Joseph in December 1650. If it is assumed that the 'three brothers' of Family Tradition were John, Robert and Jeremy, then Jeremy is a candidate for the one who died in the Connecticut River.

As other pages at this site show, a great deal is now known about this family.

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~djmurphy/loveland/norwich1.htm

John Loveland of Norwich, Co.Norfolk -

JOHN LOVELAND was born 1556 in Norwich,Co. Norfolk, England, and died Bef. 1647 in Norwich, County Norfolk., Eng.. He married ALYCE TRYME June 26, 1582 in City of Norwich, Eng.. She was born in Norwich, County Norfolk., Eng., and died Unknown.

     

Children of JOHN LOVELAND and ALYCE TRYME are:

i.   WILLIAM LOVELAND, b. January 24, 1584/85; d. Abt. November 1623, Norwich Co., Eng..  
ii.   JOHN LOVELAND, b. Abt. September 11, 1599, Norwich, County Norfolk., Eng.; d. Abt. 1646, on sea, ship to the New World. 
iii.   JOSEPH LOVELAND, b. Abt. June 3, 1604, Norwich, Norwich Co., Eng.; d. May 20, 1695, Norwich, Norwich Co., Eng.. 
iv.   JEREMY LOVELAND, b. Abt. January 27, 1604/05; d. Bef. December 10, 1650, CT. 
 v.   ROBERT LOVELAND, b. Abt. November 20, 1607, Norwich, Norwich Co., Eng.; d. Abt. November 17, 1668, New London, CT.. 

The principal clue to the UK roots of the Lovelands who settled in Wethersfield (Glastonbury) and New London, CT in the middle of the 17C can be found in the Will of John Loveland of Norwich, Co.Norfolk (proved Norwich, 10 April 1649). Taken together with other contemporary records, this shows that Widow Loveland (who lived in Wethersfield from about 1647) was almost certainly the wife of John Loveland, the testator's son. Family tradition holds that the Widow's husband died on the journey to the New World.

However, the 'patriarch' of the Norwich Loveland family is John Loveland who married Alyce Tryme at Norwich, St.Michael Coslany (26 June 1582). According to City of Norwich records he was 86 years of age in 1642, (Norwich Genealogy 1453-1835, Vol 21) placing his birth at about 1556. Alyce Tryme may possibly not have been his first wife since the burial of a daughter Annis (Agnes) is recorded at Norwich, St.Margaret (the family's parish at the time) on 24-Dec-1583. A matching baptism for this child has not so far been located unless it is the 21-Sep-1579 Worplesdon, Co.Surrey baptism of Agnes Loveland, daughter of John Loveland. Apart from this very slim piece of circumstantial evidence, we have no way of knowing at present where John may have come from. The same St.Margaret burial record refers to the family as being 'strangers for the past three years' - suggesting that they arrived in Norwich (or at least that particular parish) in 1580.

John Loveland went on to have a long and interesting life in Norwich, holding numerous parochial civic and posts right up until his death in 1648 at the age of 92. Even more remarkable perhaps was the fact that he married at least three times and fathered no fewer than twenty-two children. He was a hosier by trade, no doubt benefiting from the opportunities afforded by the newly invented 'knitting frame' which had brought great prosperity to the East Midlands in general and to Norwich in particular.

Four of his five sons surviving to adulthood (William, John, Jeremy and Robert) became merchants, trading with Spain and the New World while the fifth (Joseph) became a Canon at the Cathedrals of both Norwich and York, as well as a parish priest.

It is almost certain that his eldest son John was the husband of 'Widow Loveland' of Wethersfield/Glastonbury, Connecticut while son Robert was certainly the man who witnessed a document in Boston, MA in 1645 and later became a citizen of New London, CT. It is possible that Jeremy also emigrated to the New World with his brothers and was the man whom family tradition holds was drowned in the Connecticut River soon after arriving.

John Loveland lived in three Norwich parishes at different times of his live:

St.Margaret (1582-1588 approx.)

St.Lawrence (1588-1610 approx)

St.Gregory (1610-1649 approx)

The parishes are grouped in the same small area of the old city and the churches remain to this day in very much the form that he would have known them. The reference in the Loveland Genealogy to a funeral monument to John Loveland existing at St.Michael's, Cook's Lane is confusing. It is probable that the church in question is really St.Michael's Coslany (the parish immediately to the north of St. Gregory's and where he was married in 1582) but the parish register of St.Gregory's church clearly states that both he and his wife were buried there (she in 1643 and he in 1648, in accordance with his wishes).

The official memorial records of St.Gregory's indicate that there is no monument to him there. John's previous wife (also Mary) was buried 12-May-1593 Norwich St.Lawrence. The burial of his wife Alice (née Tryme) has not so far been located.

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John of Norwich Loveland, Jr.'s Timeline

1556
1556
Catheryne Hill, Guildford, Surrey, England
1578
June 26, 1578
Age 22
Norwich, Norfolk, England
1579
1579
Age 23
Worplesdon, Surrey, England
1580
1580
Age 24
1582
1582
Age 26
Norwich, Norfolk, England
1583
1583
Age 27
Norwich, Norfolk, England
1585
January 24, 1585
Age 29
Loveland Manor, St Lawrence, Norwich, England
1585
Age 29
St Lawrence, Norwich, Norfolk, England
1587
1587
Age 31
Norwich, Norfolk, England
1589
November 1589
Age 33
St Lawrence, Norwich, Norfolk, England