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Nicknames: "John Penne of Myntie"
Birthplace: Minety, Wiltshire, England
Death: Died in Codicote, Hertfordshire, England
Occupation: m. c. 1522, Barber Surgeon
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About John Penne

When St. Albans Abbey was dissolved in 1539 Codicote passed to Henry VIII. John Penne, his Barber-Surgeon, bought the manor in 1545. Penne’s descendants sold Codicote in 1653 to George Poyner, who shortly afterwards built Codicote Bury. Richard Hale, founder of the school of that name in Hertford, was born at Hollards, as was John Haynes, first Governor of Connecticut.

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He was barber- surgeon,& groom of the privy chamber of King Henry VIII .

I downloaded a portrait by Holbein of King Henry VIII surrounded by his 18 barber surgeons. They each have their names on their gowns & John Penne is in the foreground.

The Tudor royal servants were chosen by the King "from the men closest to him". They were thus courtiers "par excellence". In the sixteenth century, the court was indeed the seat of the government in England

A cousin, Sir Maurice Berkley (married to Catherine Blount),was steward to Cromwell & Queen Katherine Parr. His father, Sir Humphrey Coningsby, was Lord chief justice of the Kings Bench, Sergeant in Arms to Henry VIII.

I have downloaded his will in which he left money & propery to Lucy,his wife & Elizabeth & Dorothy,his daughters,& his sons William & Robert.

John Penne's will was made out in the reign of William & Mary.

When his son, William, married he granted his land in Wiltshire to him as a wedding present.

Another barber surgeon, John Ayliffe,was also given land in Wiltshire for his services to Henry VIII. He was made warden of the royal Savernake forest.(This land was owned by the Seymour family).

John Penne was given land in Wiltshire for his services to Henry VIII including a hunting lodge on the edge of the royal forest of Braydon(also owned by the Seymours).The Seymour family home was in Wiltshire.He was made warden of the royal forest of Braydon.( a hereditory post) which was passed on to future generations of Penn's.

After his marriage to Lucy Cheval (who was the heiress to 2 manors in Hertfordshire)- Sisserfens & Coldicote Manors, it brought the 2 manors into the Penne family. This was at the time of Henry VIII.

At the Dissolution the manor of Codicote came to the king's hands, and in 1544 it was granted by him to one Robert Langley, with power of redemption within a year. (fn. 13) This redemption seems to have taken place, for in 1545 the manor with the water-mill was granted to John Penne, the king's barber-surgeon (fn. 14) and groom of the privy-chamber; he died in 1558 (fn. 15) and was succeeded by his son Thomas, who appears to have joined with his mother Lucy in selling part of the demesne lands and the site of the manor to his brother Robert, (fn. 16) who died in February 1592–3, having previously settled the site of the manor, Codicote Bury, with certain other lands on his daughter Anne, the wife of Walter Grey. (fn. 17) Thomas Penne died in 1603 seised of the manor of Codicote with the exception of the eighteen messuages and lands which he had sold to his brother, leaving Thomas son of John, his grandson and heir, under age. (fn. 18)

From: 'Parishes: Codicote', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 2 (1908), pp. 345-48. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=43291&strquery=Penne. Date accessed: 24 September 2006.

Chauncy, in his Antiquities of Hertfordshire, gives a pedigree of this family, according to which it would appear that John was succeeded in the estate by one Edmund, whose son Edmund had an only daughter Lucy; her marriage with John Penne in the early years of the reign of Henry VIII brought Sisserfens into the hands of the family who subsequently held the manor of Codicote. Sufficient evidence has not been found entirely to confirm the pedigree traced by Chauncy, but the statement with regard to the marriage of Penne with the heiress of the Chevals would seem to be correct; (fn. 32) from this time the two manors followed the same descent till 1698 when John Poyner sold Sisserfens to Thomas Kentish (fn. 33) in whose family it remained till 1814 (fn. 34) when it was held by the Rev. John Kentish.

From: 'Parishes: Codicote', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 2 (1908), pp. 345-48. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=43291&strquery=Penne. Date accessed: 24 September 2006.The estate of ABBOTS HAY was a portion of the manor of Codicote sold by John Penne to Nicholas Bristowe in 1546. (fn. 36) This estate descended with the family of Bristowe till 1697. (fn. 37) Some fifty years later it had passed to Sarah Poynter, (fn. 38) and in 1795 it had passed to Thomas Brand, (fn. 39) in whose descendant, Viscount Hampden, it is now vested.

From: 'Parishes: Codicote', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 2 (1908), pp. 345-48. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=43291&strquery=Penne. Date accessed: 24 September 2006.Another estate, called MICHELL'S FEE, was carved out of his manor of Codicote by John Penne in 1546, (fn. 40) and sold to John Michell. In 1659 John Michell received licence to alienate to his son Thomas this estate, which was held of the queen for onehundredth part of a knight's fee. (fn. 41)

The manor descended in the family of Michell till 1704, (fn. 42) when Thomas Michell held it, after which date its history is lost.

From: 'Parishes: Codicote', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 2 (1908), pp. 345-48. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=43291&strquery=Penne. Date accessed: 24 September 2006.

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up-dated 28/05/09 NN Main VARM JRTM

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  • following is from Susan Waterman, claiming relationship: cf. 'Mail' May 09

Elizabeth Crutcher

her mother

Frances Lee

her mother

George Penn

her father

John Penn

his father

William Penn

his father

George Penn

his father

William Penn

his father

Sir William Penn

his father

Captain Giles Penn

his father

William Penn

his father

William Penn

his father

John Penne

his father -------------------- When St. Albans Abbey was dissolved in 1539 Codicote passed to Henry VIII. John Penne, his Barber-Surgeon, bought the manor of Codicote in 1545. Penne’s descendants sold Codicote in 1653 to George Poyner, who shortly afterwards built Codicote Bury. Richard Hale, founder of the school of that name in Hertford, was born at Hollards, as was John Haynes, first Governor of Connecticut.

My Notes for John Penne.

John Penne was barber- surgeon,& later groom of the privy chamber of King Henry VIII . This was probably after the demise of Anne Boleyn & the gentlemen grooms of the privy chamber. ie in 1536 - 1540. He was granted land in Wiltshire,( probably at the request of Jane Seymour) I downloaded a portrait by Holbein of King Henry VIII surrounded by his 18 barber surgeons. They each have their names on their gowns & John Penne is in the foreground. Another barber surgeon, who I believe to be an R. Fereby (another ancestor) is also in the picture. The Tudor royal servants were chosen by the King "from the men closest to him". They were thus courtiers "par excellence". In the sixteenth century, the court was indeed the seat of the government in England

A cousin,Sir Maurice Berkley (married to Catherine Blount), was steward to Cromwell & Queen Katherine Parr. Sir Humphrey Coningsby who married Isabel Fereby, was Lord chief justice of the Kings Bench, Sergeant in Arms to Henry VIII.

I have downloaded his will in which he left money & propery to Lucy,his wife & Elizabeth & Dorothy,his daughters,& his sons William & Robert. John Penne's will was made out in the reign of William & Mary. When his eldest son, William, married he granted his land in Wiltshire to him as a wedding present. Another barber surgeon, John Ayliffe,was also given land in Wiltshire for his services to Henry VIII. He was made warden of the royal Savernake forest.(This land was owned by the Seymour family). John Penne was given land in Wiltshire for his services to Henry VIII including a hunting lodge on the edge of the royal forest of Braydon(also owned by the Seymours).The Seymour family home was at Wolf Hall, Savernake, Wiltshire. He was made warden of the royal forest of Braydon.( a hereditory post) which was passed on to future generations of Penne's

  

At the Dissolution the manor of Codicote came to the king's hands, and in 1544 it was granted by him to one Robert Langley, with power of redemption within a year. (fn. 13) This redemption seems to have taken place, for in 1545 the manor with the water-mill was granted to John Penne, the king's barber-surgeon (fn. 14) and groom of the privy-chamber; he died in 1558 (fn. 15) and was succeeded by his son Thomas, who appears to have joined with his mother Lucy in selling part of the demesne lands and the site of the manor to his brother Robert, (fn. 16) who died in February 1592–3, having previously settled the site of the manor, Codicote Bury, with certain other lands on his daughter Anne, the wife of Walter Grey. (fn. 17) Thomas Penne died in 1603 seised of the manor of Codicote with the exception of the eighteen messuages and lands which he had sold to his brother, leaving Thomas son of John, his grandson and heir, under age. (fn. 18)

From: 'Parishes: Codicote', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 2 (1908), pp. 345-48. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=43291&strquery=Penne. Date accessed: 24 September 2006.

Chauncy, in his Antiquities of Hertfordshire, gives a pedigree of this family, according to which it would appear that John was succeeded in the estate by one Edmund, whose son Edmund had an only daughter Lucy; her marriage with John Penne in the early years of the reign of Henry VIII brought Sisserfens into the hands of the family who subsequently held the manor of Codicote. Sufficient evidence has not been found entirely to confirm the pedigree traced by Chauncy, but the statement with regard to the marriage of Penne with the heiress of the Chevals would seem to be correct; (fn. 32) from this time the two manors followed the same descent till 1698 when John Poyner sold Sisserfens to Thomas Kentish (fn. 33) in whose family it remained till 1814 (fn. 34) when it was held by the Rev. John Kentish.

From: 'Parishes: Codicote', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 2 (1908), pp. 345-48. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=43291&strquery=Penne. Date accessed: 24 September 2006.The estate of ABBOTS HAY was a portion of the manor of Codicote sold by John Penne to Nicholas Bristowe in 1546. (fn. 36) This estate descended with the family of Bristowe till 1697. (fn. 37) Some fifty years later it had passed to Sarah Poynter, (fn. 38) and in 1795 it had passed to Thomas Brand, (fn. 39) in whose descendant, Viscount Hampden, it is now vested.

From: 'Parishes: Codicote', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 2 (1908), pp. 345-48. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=43291&strquery=Penne. Date accessed: 24 September 2006.Another estate, called MICHELL'S FEE, was carved out of his manor of Codicote by John Penne in 1546, (fn. 40) and sold to John Michell. In 1659 John Michell received licence to alienate to his son Thomas this estate, which was held of the queen for onehundredth part of a knight's fee. (fn. 41) The manor descended in the family of Michell till 1704, (fn. 42) when Thomas Michell held it, after which date its history is lost.

From: 'Parishes: Codicote', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 2 (1908), pp. 345-48. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=43291&strquery=Penne. Date accessed: 24 September 2006.

Will proved 1559 — John Penne, Esquire, of Codycote, co. Herts. ; to be bur. in Church of Codynte ; to churches of C. & Welwyn ; dans. Elen, Elizabeth & Dorothye each 40 li at marriage; son Robert's wif; son Robert Penne my mylle of Codynte; son William ; wife Lucy Residuary Legatee & Extrix. Wit. Michael Hogkin; Signed John Pen; dat. 15 Aug. 1556; pro. 6 May 1559 by wid. second grant 10 Oct. 1560 to Gyles

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John Penne's Timeline

1492
1492
Minety, Wiltshire, England
1522
1522
Age 30
Minety, Wiltshire, England
1522
Age 30
1525
1525
Age 33
Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England, (Present UK)
1544
1544
Age 52
1557
August 21, 1557
Age 65
Codicote, Hertfordshire, England
????
Hitchin, Hertfordshire, UK