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Birthplace: Watford, Northamptonshire, England
Death: Died in Duxbury, Plymouth County, New Plymouth Colony (Present Massachusetts)
Occupation: Weaver, Came to Plymouth in 1630, Captain
Managed by: Robin Burns Hutchins
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About John Rogers, Sr.

Walter G. Ashworth,John Rogers Rogers is my 8th great grandfather.

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From the Thomas Rogers Society website:

http://www.thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i10

John Rogers [1] M,

b. 6 April 1606,

d. between 26 August 1691 and 20 September 1692

John Rogers was baptized on 6 April 1606 at Watford, co. Northamptonshire, England. He was the son of Thomas Rogers [Mayflower Pilgrim] and Alice Cosford.[2]

John Rogers probably came to Plymouth about 1630 with the last of the Pilgrims to leave the Separatist enclave.

He was first taxed in 1633 at Plymouth and on 20 Oct 1634 he bought a lot at Duxbury from Edmund Chandler. With his brother Joseph and others, he had a grant of 50 acres at Marshfield 6 April 1640.

At Duxbury he was a surveyor of highways in 1644, deputy to the General Court in 1657, and constable in 1666.

As an "ancient freeman" of the colony, he was granted land at Taunton on 3 June 1662. He had another 100 acres on Coteticutt (Titicut) River in 1667 and in 1673 another 100 acres on the northeast side of Taunto. He is called "weaver" in a deed conveying one acre in Duxbury to Wrestling Brewster in 1680.

His will dated 26 Aug 1691 was proved 20 Sept 1692.

He married Anna Churchman on 16 April 1639 at Plymouth.[1]

John Rogers died between 26 August 1691 and 20 September 1692 at Duxbury.

Children of John Rogers and Anna Churchman

  • 1. (H)Anna Rogers+ b. bt 1640 - 1650, d. a 8 Jun 1704[3]
  • 2. John Rogers+ b. c 1640, d. 28 Jun 1732[3]
  • 3. Abigail Rogers+ b. c 1640, d. 1 Aug 1727[3]
  • 4. Elizabeth Rogers+ b. b 1652, d. a 7 Mar 1703[3]

Citations

[S1] Ann T. [Revised by], (Originally compiled by Alice W. A. Westgate) Reeves, Rogers-Silver, p. 6.

[S1] Ann T. [Revised by], (Originally compiled by Alice W. A. Westgate) Reeves, Rogers-Silver, 1:1.

[S1] Ann T. [Revised by], (Originally compiled by Alice W. A. Westgate) Reeves, Rogers-Silver, p. 14.

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On his situation in Leiden 1622:

http://www.thomasrogerssociety.com/trleiden.html

Robert Wakefield’s examination of the 1622 Leiden poll tax lists reveal that when Thomas [1] Rogers left for America his wife Alice, two daughters Elizabeth and Margaret, and son John remained in Leiden.[13] In the household of Antony Clements, apparently one of the English Separatists who did not emigrate to Plymouth, are found the following persons:

Jan Thomasz orphan from England without means

Elsgen (Alice) [14] Rogiers, widow of Thonis Rogiers an English woman in the back part of the house or in the kitchen

Lysbeth (Elizabeth)

Grietgen (Margaret)

In the Dutch patronymic system Jan Thomasz is equivalent to John, son of Thomas. His placement above Thomas Rogers’ widow and his description as “orphan from England” suggest that he is John [2] Rogers, later of Plymouth.

References:

1. Robert M. Sherman, ed., Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, 2:James Chilton, Richard More, Thomas Rogers (Plymouth, MA 1978), pp.151-321. The Thomas Rogers material was compiled by Alice W.A. Wesgate, who observes (p. 153) that “nothing at all is known about his ancestry”.

2. One of the early Rogers genealogies to present in print this erroneous notion was Annie Arnoux Haxtun, Signers of the Mayflower Compact (repr. Baltimore, 1968); originally published in three parts from 1897 to 1899, this more properly a collection of fairy tales for children than a serious genealogical study. Without reference to the work of Chester or Waters, and with vague allusions to “authentic” sources, Haxtun championed the idea that Thomas [1] Rogers descended from John Rogers the Martyr. She also believed that William [1] Rogers of Long Island and James [1] Rogers of New London were sons of the Pilgrim Thomas [1] Rogers. In 1911 John C. Underwood further elaborated on Haxtun’s claims in his Lineage of the Rogers Family – England: Embracing John Rogers the Martyr, Emigrant Descendants to America and Issue. Now Thomas [1] Rogers acquired not only a wife named Grace but also a descent from royalty! (Chester had in fact documented a royal line for the Martyr John Rogers, but Underwood failed to cite any real documentation for the generations between the martyr and the Pilgrim.) Although this “ancestry” was many years ago rejected by the Thomas Rogers Society and the General Society of Mayflower Descendants, the undocumented claims of Haxtun and Underwood continue to appear in print as predictably as the swallows’ return to Capistrano. Most recently, for example, Helen Rogers Skelton and Clarence C. Skelton, Rogers-Skelton and Allied Families (Baltimore, 1987) copies Underwood almost verbatim and even adds additional royal descents.

(Ben M. Angel notes: An example of the rejected "Traditional Ancestry of Thomas Rogers" by R. Walters, which includes birth and death dates for John Rogers without sources to back them, is presented by Richmond Family Ancestry at: http://www.richmondancestry.org/rogers.shtml )

13. Robert S. Wakefield, “Mayflower Passengers Turner and Rogers: Probable Identification of Additional Children”, The American Genealogist 52:110-13 (1976).

14. Although Wakefield read “Elsgen” as Elizabeth, Bangs, supra note 12, p. 207, read its English equivalent as Alice Anthony Clements Married Clara Rogiers, widow of Jan Jansz. The relationship if any between Thomas [1] and Clara has not been determined.

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From Steadman's Mayflower Database on RootsWeb:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~steadman/wga62.html

Rogers, John (~1614 - 1692)

b. Abt 1614

d. 1691/1692

father: Rogers, Thomas(1581 - 1621)

mother: Cosford, Elsgen Elizabeth Alice(~1581 - )

per Mayflower records born in England or Holland died between 26 Aug 1691 and 20 Sep 1692, Duxbury

per THOMAS ROGERS, PILGRIM, AND SOME OF HIS DESCDNDANTS by Elizabeth S. Daniel and Jeanne E. Sawtelle, 1980

"Pilgrim Thomas Rogers was born, probably in England, before 1590. The first certain reference to him was in 1618, when he became a citizen of Leiden, Holland, sponsored by two of the Pilgrim community who had come from Worksop, Notts., and Sandwich, Kent, both in England. Therefore, Thomas himself may have come from one ot those towns.

In April 1620, Thomas sold his Leiden home in preparation for the voyage across the Atlantic, and he died early in 1621, in Plymouth Colony. The only other information that we positively know about Thomas Rogers is that Gov. William Bradford, in 1650, wrote that "Thomas Rogers and Joseph his son" came on the MAYFLOWER, and that "Thomas died in the first sickness, but his son Joseph is still living and is married and hath six children. The rest of Thomas Roger's (children) came over and are married and have many children."

We know from the 1622 Poll Tax that the Rogers family in Leiden then consisted of widow Elsgen (or Elizabeth), son Jan (or John), and daughters Lysbeth and Geietgen (or Elizabeth and Margaret). The English equivalents were supplied by the Leiden Archivist.

John Rogers arrived at Plymouth about 1630, with last of the Leiden contingent. His identity is proved by a 1640 grant to him and Joseph Rogers, calling them brothers, and giving them each 50 acres at the North River.

If Thomas had other sons, it is highly unlikely that they lived to maturity, since they neither appear in the 1622 tax list, nor were they granted land with their brothers.

...Research among the married women of Plymouth and Salem, where many of the Leiden group landed, has so far failed to show any Margaret or Elizabeth as a likely daughter of Thomas Rogers...

To date, the MF Society recognizes only Joseph and John as children of Pilgrim Thomas Rogers. ...In 1634 he bought land in Duxbury, and was also granted 50 acres in 1640, as was his brother Joseph. John served on a jury for the first time in 1641, was made a freeman around March 1641/2, and became a highway surveyor in Duxbury in 1644. He was also a deputy at court in 1657, and was made a constable of Duxbury in 1666.

There were a number of land transactions in which John was involved between 1662 and 1685. As one of the "ancient freemen,: he was given land in 1662 on the northerly side of Taunton.

In 1664 he sold half his meadow northwest of "Joanes River," with the consent of wife Anna. This is the only time she is called by name except at their marriage. In 1667 he was granted 100 acres on Coteticutt River, and in 1670 John Rogers of Duxbury weaver "and his wife" acknowledged a deed made in 1654, through which he had sold the 50 acres granted to him in 1640. He sold another 100 acres in 1673.

His last recorded land transaction was the sale of an acre of his Duxbury land to Wrestling Brewster, acknowledging his signature in 1685.

The original will of John Rogers, probated 20 Sep 1692, is no longer in existence, but the copy entered in the records of Plymouth Colony at his death appoints his son John Rogers as "sole Executor and Administrator."

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Should not be confused with Reverend John Waters of Dedham. From Richmond Family Ancestry:

http://www.richmondancestry.org/thomasrogers.shtml

Although there are variations, the usual descent claimed for Thomas [1] Rogers is as son of Thomas Matthew, son of Bernard, son of the Martyr. Chester found no evidence that Bernard had any posterity. Another source would make Thomas [1] son of (Rev.) John Rogers of Dedham, son of Noah, son of the Martyr (History of Suffolk county, New York (New York 1822), "Town of Huntington", p.6) But Waters proved that (Rev.) John Rogers, father of (Rev.) Nathaniel Rogers of Ipswich, MA, has an entirely different ancestry.

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Added by his 8th Great Grandson Walter G. Ashworth

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ID: I421017

Name: John Rogers

Sex: M

Birth: ABT 6 APR 1606 in Watford, Northampton, England

Death: AFT 26 AUG 1691 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co. Massachusetts

Note:

Ref; Clifford Stoot, "The English Ancestry of the Pilgrim Thomas Rogers and His Wife Alice (Cosford) Rogers", the Genealogist, 10: 138-149

Ref; Robert S. Wakefield, "Mayflower Passengers Turner and Rogers: Probable Identification of Additional Children," The American Genealogis 52:110-113.

Ref: Genealogies of Mayflower Families , 1500s-1800s, CD #171

Ref; Parish Register, of Watford, Northampton, England ; Baptism, 6 Apr 1606.

Father: Thomas Rogers , Pilgrim b: BEF 1572 in Of Watford, Northampton, England

Mother: Alice Cosford b: BET 1560 AND 1580 in England

Marriage 1 Anna Churchman b: BET 1617 AND 1618 in Huntingon, Suffolk, England

Married: 16 APR 1639 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co. Massachusetts

Children

  • 1. John Rogers b: 1 MAR 1639/40 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., Massachusetts
  • 2. Hannah "Anna" Rogers b: ABT 1644 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co. Massachusetts
  • 3. Elizabeth Rogers b: BET 1646 AND 1647 in Suffolk Co. Massachusetts
  • 4. Abigail Rogers b: 1641 in Duxbury, Plymouth Co., Massachusetts

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Children of Thomas1 Rogers

John2 Rogers (Thomas1), married Ann(a) Churchman.

Joseph2 Rogers married Hannah _____

Lysbeth, living 1622, and may have come over, but no further record

Grietgen (or Margaret) living 1622, may have come over, but no further record.

Children of John2 and Ann(a) Churchman Rogers

  • 1. John3 Rogers, married, 1st, Elizabeth Pabodie3 (Elizabeth2 Alden, John1); married, 2d, Hannah (Hobart) Brown; married, 3d, Marah (---) Browning, a widow.
  • 2. (H)Anna3 Rogers, married, 1st, John Tisdale; married, 2d, Thomas Terry; married 3d, Samuel Williams (Taunton Family)
  • 3. Abigail3 Rogers, married John Richmond as his second wife. .
  • 4. Elizabeth3 Rogers, married Nathaniel Williams.(Taunton Family)

Joseph2 Rogers (Thomas1), and Hannah _______. (She may not have been his only wife, nor the mother of his children MF5G V2:157) A copy of his will is written in the Plymouth Colony Record Book.

John2 ROGERS (Thomas1) was born before 6 Apr 1606. He was baptized on 6 Apr 1606 Watford, Northampton, England.2 Conflicting evidence indicates he was born in 1614 England or Holland.4 He married Anna CHURCHMAN, daughter of Hugh CHURCHMAN, on 16 Apr 1639 Plymouth, Plymouth County, Massachusetts.5,6,2 He wrote a will on 26 Aug 1691.7 He died before 20 Sep 1692 Duxbury, Plymouth County, Massachusetts.5 His will was probated on 20 Sep 1692.7

He was living in Leyden, Holland, with his mother and two sisters. No further records have been found. She may have come to New England and married.1 He came to New England about 1630 with the last of the Leyden Pilgrim community, and was first taxed in Plymouth Colony 25 Mar 1633.5 On 20 Oct 1634 he bought a lot of land "on Duxbery side." He first served on a jury 7 Dec 1641, was admitted a freeman as early as 1 Mar 1641/2, and was appointed a highway surveyor 5 Jun 1644. He served as a deputy at court on 3 Jun 1657. On 3 Jun 1662, he was one of the "ancient freemen" who was given land on the northerly side of Taunton.

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Death date between August 26, 1691 and September 20, 1692.

4 children; 1st John.

Emigrated 1630. -------------------- Thomas became the father of John Rogers before 1606 in England or Holland. As John Rogers's father, Thomas, presented him at his baptism 06 April 1606.

John Rogers came to Plymouth about 1630, when the last of the Leiden contingent arrived and was in Plymouth Colony on 25 March 1633 when he was taxed 9 shillings. The proof of his identity lies in a grant made 6 April 1640 to "Joseph Rogers and John Rogers his brother...fifty acres apiece of upland....at the North River." Both then had growing families to carry forward the Rogers heritage, although only Joseph's descendants would carry forward the Rogers name beyond the fourth generation."

Children of John2 and Ann(a) Churchman Rogers

John3 Rogers, married, 1st, Elizabeth Pabodie3 (Elizabeth2 Alden, John1); married, 2d, Hannah (Hobart) Brown; married, 3d, Marah (---) Browning, a widow.

(H)Anna3 Rogers, married, 1st, John Tisdale; married, 2d, Thomas Terry; married 3d, Samuel Williams (Taunton Family)

Abigail3 Rogers, married John Richmond as his second wife.

Elizabeth3 Rogers, married Nathaniel Williams.(Taunton Family) -------------------- He came to Plymouth in 1630. He married Anna Churchman in Plymouth on April 16, 1639. They had four children.

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John Rogers, Sr.'s Timeline

1606
April 6, 1606
Watford, Northamptonshire, England
April 6, 1606
Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
1622
1622
Age 15
Leyden, South Holland, The Netherlands

According to Roger Wakefield, John Rogers, his mother Alice Cosford Rogers, and sisters Elizabeth and Margaret Rogers were still living in Leiden within the home of Antony Clements, an English Separatist who did not go on to Plymouth. Tax rolls this year list the following:

Jan Thomasz orphan from England without means

Elsgen (Alice) Rogiers, widow of Thonis Rogiers an English woman in the back part of the house or in the kitchen

Lysbeth (Elizabeth)

Grietgen (Margaret)

1630
1630
Age 23
Plymouth, MA

The Thomas Rogers Society speculates that John Rogers left Leiden with the last group of Separatists to come to Plymouth Colony from their enclave in Holland. No information has been found on what ship he was a passenger to the New World.

1633
1633
Age 26
Plymouth, MA, USA
1634
October 20, 1634
Age 28
Duxbury, MA, USA

John Rogers purchases land in Duxbury from Edmund Chandler.

1639
April 16, 1639
Age 33
Plymouth, (Present Plymouth County), Plymouth Colony (Present Massachusetts)
1640
March 1, 1640
Age 33
Duxbury, Plymouth
April 6, 1640
Age 34
Marshfield, MA, USA

Receives 50 acres at Marshfield, along with his brother Joseph and others.

1640
Age 33
Duxbury, (Present Plymouth County), Plymouth Colony