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John . de Sudeley, Lord of Sudeley and Toddington

Nicknames: "Baron Chandos//"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Sudeley Castle, Toddington, Gloucestershire, England
Death: Died in Sudeley Castle, Gloucestershire, , England
Immediate Family:

Son of Harold de Ewyas I, Lord of Ewyas; Harold de Mantes; Maud (Margaret) d'Avranches and Matilda de Mantes
Husband of Grace de Tracy and Grace
Father of Sir William de Tracy, Knight of Gloucestershire; Sir Ralph de Sudeley, Knt. and Sir William Tracy
Brother of Robert FitzHarold De Ewyas and Harold de Sudeley
Half brother of Ranulph III "de Briquessart" le Meschin, Earl of Chester; Geoffrey de Meschines; Robert de Meschines; Agnes (Adeliza) de Meschines, de Bayeux; Matilda Dau Of Ranoulf le Meschin and 1 other

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About John . de Sudeley, Lord of Sudeley and Toddington

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Sir John de Sudeley was Lord of Sudeley and Toddingham. The older son, he inherrited the estate of his father in county Glouchester, England. He married Grace de Traci, heiress of Barnstaple, County of Devon. They had two sons: Ralph, the heir of the father; William inherited his mother's estate and assumed her family name, de Traci.

FMG.ac states:

Secondary sources commonly show John´s wife as Grace de Tracy, daughter of William de Tracy, an illegitimate son of Henry I King of England. This appears to be the assumption of many writers, for example the Complete Peerage[1063]. Frank Barlow comments that "William [de Tracy], the second son of John de Sudeley…chose to take his name from the family of his mother, Grace daughter and heir of William (I) de Tracy, lord of Bradninch in Devon and illegitimate son of King Henry I"[1064]. However, I have not yet found any writer who provides a precise primary source citation which can be followed up to confirm this marriage. Her existence has been doubted by Professor Nicholas Vincent, who states that he could "find no reliable evidence to suggest that the royal bastard fathered a daughter named" Grace and suggests that Grace "seems to have been invented, perhaps in comparatively recent times, to explain certain irregularities in the Sudeley descent, and to justify the claims of the Hanbury-Tracy family of Toddington in Gloucestershire to be descended both from the blood royal of Henry I and from William de Tracy, the murderer of Thomas Becket"[1065]. Until more information comes to light, it appears safer to note John de Sudeley´s wife as unknown.

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John . de Sudeley, Lord of Sudeley and Toddington's Timeline

1090
1090
Sudeley Castle, Toddington, Gloucestershire, England
1130
1130
Age 40
Cheltenham, UK
1133
1133
Age 43
Gloucestershire, United Kingdom
1133
Age 43
Sudeley Castle, Toddington, Gloucestershire, England
1140
1140
Age 50
Sudeley Castle, Gloucestershire, , England
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