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John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles

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  • Birth: Apr 20 1352 - Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England
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John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles (1352–1421) was an English soldier and noble. He married Margaret (SIC: Allianore) de Mowbray (1364-1399), daughter of John, Lord Mowbray by Elizabeth, Baroness Segrave.[1]

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At a banquet in Edinburgh and presumably after too much alcohol he issued, as Champion of England, the following challenge to David Lindsay (later 1st Earl of Crawford): “Let words have no place; if ye know not the Chivalry and Valiant deeds of Englishmen; appoint me a day and a place where ye list, and ye shall have experience.”[1] As a result of the challenge, on St George’s Day, 23 April 1390[2], he fought David Lindsay in mock combat on horseback on London Bridge, losing the match by being struck from his horse in their third charge against each other.

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  1. Eudo de Welles, d.v.p., who married Maude de Greystoke, daughter of Ralph de Greystoke, 3rd Baron Greystoke and Catherine Clifford, and had: Sir William Welles, Lord Chancellor of Ireland, married to Anne Barnewall, daughter of Sir Christopher Barnewall, and had issue including Elizabeth, Lady Slane; & Lionel de Welles, 6th Baron Welles
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John De WELLES (AFN: 8J5R-GG) Pedigree

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Birth:   20 Apr 1352   
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Death:   1421      
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Father:  John WELLES (AFN: 9G89-41)  Family  
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Mother:  Maud De ROS (AFN: 9G89-56)   .
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Spouse:  Cecily (AFN: HNJ5-BX)  Family   Marriage:  1366     
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Spouse:  Eleanor De MOWBRAY (AFN: 8J5J-JT)  Family   Marriage:  May 1386  
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Cecily DE WELLES. Parents: .

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Spouse: Sir Thomas DE STRICKLAND.

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Children were: Sir Walter DE STRICKLAND, William STRICKLAND.

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John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles (1352–1421) was an English soldier and noble the English ambassador to Scotland. He married Margaret "Eleanor," daughter of John, Lord Mowbray by Elizabeth, Baroness Segrave.

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He was born in Welle, Lincolnshire, England on 20th April 1352. John De Welles died on 26 August 1421.
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Joust.. At a banquet in Edinburgh , after arguing over who was the most gallant of their countrymen, he issued, as Champion of England, the following challenge to David Lindsay (later 1st Earl of Crawford): “Let words have no place; if ye know not the Chivalry and Valiant deeds of Englishmen; appoint me a day and a place where ye list, and ye shall have experience.”

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As a result of the challenge, on St George’s Day, 23rd April 1390, in the presence of Richard II of England , he fought David Lindsay in a jousting tournament on London Bridge.

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The day for the encounter arrived, and the two knights fully armed in the plate armour of the period were conducted to the Bridge, where a daïs had been erected for Richard II and the members of his Court.

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All the suitable positions were occupied by the nobility, and elsewhere the populace crowded every available corner. When all was in readiness the heralds gave the signal and the two horsemen, spurring their heavy horses, charged full at one another.

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Spears were broken, but both warriors remained seated firmly in their saddles. "The people beholding how stiffelie earle (sic) David sat without moving, cried that the Scottisman was locked in his saddle. He hearing this, leapt beside his horse, and verie nimblie mounted up againe into the saddle, armed as he was, to the great wonder of the beholders."

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With fresh spears a second course was taken and once more the weapons were splintered "and yet without anie great hurt on either part." At the third collision Lord Welles was borne from his saddle and fell heavily to the ground, being "sore hurt."

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The onlookers appear to have thought he was killed, but Lindsay was quickly off his horse, and, kneeling by his side, he tenderly held him in his arms until the doctor came to tend his wounds.

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John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles, is our 20th Great Grandfather

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John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles (1352 - 1421) was an English soldier and noble. He married Margaret 'Eleanor', daughter of John, Lord Mowbray by Elizabeth, Baroness Segrave. [1]

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At a banquet in Edinburgh and presumably after too much alcohol he issued, as Champion of England, the following challenge to David Lindsay (later 1st Earl of Crawford): “Let words have no place; if ye know not the Chivalry and Valiant deeds of Englishmen; appoint me a day and a place where ye list, and ye shall have experience.” [1] As a result of the challenge, on St George’s Day, 23 April 1390 [2] , he fought David Lindsay in mock combat on horseback on London Bridge, losing the match by falling from his horse in their third charge against each other

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John de WELLES / Eleanor de MOWBRAY

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Husband: John de WELLES

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Born: 20 Apr 1352 at: Gainsby

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Died: 1422 at:

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Wife: Eleanor de MOWBRAY

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Born: 25 Mar 1364 at:

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Father: John de MOWBRAY

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Mother: Elizabeth SEGRAVE

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Name: Anne WELLS [1405]

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Spouses: James BUTLER

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Name: Margaret de WELLES [1484]

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Born: at: of,North Elmsall,Yorkshire,England

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Died: 29 May 1422 at:

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Spouses: Stephen Le SCROPE , John de HUNTINGFIELD

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Name: Eudo de WELLES [3168]

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Born: ABT 1387 at:

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Spouses: Maud de GREYSTOKE

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Name: Eleanor de WELLES

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Born: ABT 1390 at:

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Spouses: Hugh de POYNINGS

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Pedigree Chart for: Eleanor de MOWBRAY

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John De WELLES BARON Pedigree Sex: M

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Birth:   20 Apr 1352   , Welle, Lincolnshire, England  
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Death:   1421   
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Father:  John WELLES BARON WELLES     Disc #55     Pin #542088   
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Mother:  Maud De ROS     Disc #55     Pin #542089  
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1. Spouse: Cecily Disc #55 Pin #554987

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Marriage: 1366

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2. Spouse: Eleanor De MOWBRAY BARONESS WELLES Disc #55 Pin #540552

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Information on John De Welles Knt....5th Lord Welles of Gainsby

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John DE WELLS was born in 1324. He died in 1361. Parents: Adam DE WELLS and Margaret BARDOLPH.

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Spouse: Maud DE ROS. Children were: John DE WELLS.

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John DE WELLS was born on 20 Apr 1352. He died in 1421. Parents: John DE WELLS and Maud DE ROS.

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Spouse: Eleanor DE MOWBRAY. Children were: Anne WELLS.

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John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles (1352 – 1421) was an English soldier and noble. He married Margaret 'Eleanor', daughter of John, Lord Mowbray by Elizabeth, Baroness Segrave.

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At a banquet in Edinburgh and presumably after too much alcohol he issued, as Champion of England, the following challenge to David Lindsay (later 1st Earl of Crawford): “Let words have no place; if ye know not the Chivalry and Valiant deeds of Englishmen; appoint me a day and a place where ye list, and ye shall have experience. As a result of the challenge, on St George’s Day, 23 April 1390, he fought David Lindsay in mock combat on horseback on London Bridge, losing the match by falling from his horse in their third charge against each other.

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Married (2) Margaret 1417 -------------------- John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles (1352–1421) was an English soldier and noble the English ambassador to Scotland. He married Margaret "Eleanor," daughter of John, Lord Mowbray by Elizabeth, Baroness Segrave. He was born in Welle, Lincolnshire, England on 20th April 1352. John De Welles died on 26 August 1421.

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At a banquet in Edinburgh , after arguing over who was the most gallant of their countrymen, he issued, as Champion of England, the following challenge to David Lindsay (later 1st Earl of Crawford): “Let words have no place; if ye know not the Chivalry and Valiant deeds of Englishmen; appoint me a day and a place where ye list, and ye shall have experience.”
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As a result of the challenge, on St George’s Day, 23rd April 1390, in the presence of Richard II of England , he fought David Lindsay in a jousting tournament on London Bridge.

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The day for the encounter arrived, and the two knights fully armed in the plate armour of the period were conducted to the Bridge, where a daïs had been erected for Richard II and the members of his Court.

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All the suitable positions were occupied by the nobility, and elsewhere the populace crowded every available corner. When all was in readiness the heralds gave the signal and the two horsemen, spurring their heavy horses, charged full at one another.

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Spears were broken, but both warriors remained seated firmly in their saddles. "The people beholding how stiffelie earle (sic) David sat without moving, cried that the Scottisman was locked in his saddle. He hearing this, leapt beside his horse, and verie nimblie mounted up againe into the saddle, armed as he was, to the great wonder of the beholders."

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With fresh spears a second course was taken and once more the weapons were splintered "and yet without anie great hurt on either part." At the third collision Lord Welles was borne from his saddle and fell heavily to the ground, being "sore hurt." The onlookers appear to have thought he was killed, but Lindsay was quickly off his horse, and, kneeling by his side, he tenderly held him in his arms until the doctor came to tend his wounds.

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http://www.family-forest.co.uk/familytree/biographies/welles/sir-john-welles-5th-baronet-.shtml -------------------- At a banquet in Edinburgh and presumably after too much alcohol he issued, as Champion of England , the following challenge to David Lindsay (later 1st Earl of Crawford): “Let words have no place; if ye know not the Chivalry and Valiant deeds of Englishmen; appoint me a day and a place where ye list, and ye shall have experience.” As a result of the challenge, on St George’s Day , 23 April 1390, he fought David Lindsay ,1st Earl of Crawford in mock combat on horseback on London Bridge , losing the match by falling from his horse in their third charge against each other.

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