John "the Middle" Warren, II (1555 - 1613) MP

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Nicknames: "the Myddle"
Birthplace: Nayland, Suffolk, England
Death: Died in Nayland, Suffolk, England
Occupation: Carmaker of Nayland (Card metal comb or wire brush used for combing flax or wool)
Managed by: Catherine "Erin" Serafina Liora Spiceland
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About John "the Middle" Warren, II

John Warren

  • Birth: Aug 1 1555 - Nayland, Suffolk, England
  • Death: Nov 4 1613 - Nayland, Suffolk, England
  • Parents: John Warren (1525-1576) & his unknown 1st wife

John 'the myddle' Warren was a cardmaker of Nayland, Suffolk, England. A card was a metal comb or wire brush used for combing flax or wool. He was taxed sixteen pence there on lands in the subsidy for 8 James I., 1611. His Will was dated March 27, 1613, and proved November 4, 1613. He bequeathed to wife and children, and twenty shillings to poor people of Nayland.

He married

  • first, Elizabeth Scarlet on October 4, 1584 at Nayland. Elizabeth, the daughter of John Scarlett and Emma (____), was baptized in Nayland on August 30, 1561. She was buried there March 27, 1603/4.
  • John married secondly, Rose (____), who was buried August 11, 1610, and
  • thirdly, Rose Riddlesdale on April 23, 1611. She survived him.

His 10 children were by his first wife, Elizabeth Scarlett, as follows:

  • 1. John - bap. Aug. 1, 1585, Nayland, Suffolk, England; d. Dec. 13, 1667, Watertown, MA.
  • 2. Daniel - bap. Nov. 13, 1586, Nayland, Suffolk; bur. Feb. 13, 1596/7, Nayland, Suffolk.
  • 3. Isaac - bap. Jan. 28, 1587/8, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
  • 4. Nathaniel - bap. Sep. 7, 1589, Nayland, Suffolk; bur. Jan. 17, 1624/5, Nayland, Suffolk. Married Sep. 21, 1618, Nayland, Suffolk, Mary GONNE. Children: Nathaniel; Mary; and Thomas.
  • 5. Amos - bap. Mar. 14, 1590/1, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
  • 6. Elizabeth - b. about 1592/3, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
  • 7. Joshua -bap. Apr. 2, 1594, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
  • 8. Joseph - bap. Dec. 19, 1596, Nayland, Suffolk; d. Jul. 22, 1596<sic>, Nayland, Suffolk.
  • 9. Mary - bap. Mar. 22, 1598/99, Nayland, Suffolk. Living in 1613.
  • 10. Thomas - bap. Feb. 22, 1600/1, Nayland, Suffolk. Married Jan. 15, 1638/9, Nayland, Suffolk, Mary RANCKE. Child: Samuel.

Will

The Will of John Waren of Nayland in the County of Suffolk, cardmaker, 27 March 1613. To be buried in the parish churchyard of Nayland. To wife Rose £20, the household goods and plate she brought with her, my tenement where William Bawlden dwells, during her life, and during her widowhood the parlor and chamber in my now dwelling house. To son John and his lawful issue my mansion house where I now dwell, with the barn, stable and garden lying in Fen Street, excepting the aforesaid two rooms. To daughter Mary and her lawful issue, after the decease of my wife, my said tenement in Fen Street where William Baulden dwells, and in default of such issue to my son John, he to pay 40s. apiece to all my children then living. To sons Isaac, Nathaniel, Amos, and daughter Elizabeth, £10 apiece. To sons Joshua and Thomas £10 each at twenty-one. My plate to be equally divided between my wife and son John, and my household goods to be equally divided among my wife and all my children. To the poor people if Nayland 20s. All the residue of my goods unbequeathed I give to my son John, whom I make my executor. [Signed] John Warrene. Witnesses : William Foorth, John Walter, and Edward Collinges. Proved November 4, 1613 by John Warren, son of the testator and the executor named in the will.

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From http://bigelowsociety.com/rod/warren2.htm

John "the middle" WARRENE - b. about 1552, Nayland, Suffolk; England; died 4 Nov 1613, Nayland, Suffolk, Eng. His will (dated Mar. 27, 1613; proved Nov. 4, 1613 at Nayland, Suffolk) names his wife Rose, and all his surviving children. Son of John WARREN. John "the middle", a cardmaker by trade, married (1) Oct. 4, 1584 Elizabeth SCARLETT. He married (2) about 1605 Rose (bur. Aug. 11, 1610, Nayland), and m (3) Apr. 23, 1611 at Nayland, Rose BRAND, the widow of Richard RIDDLESDALE of Boxford, Suffolk, son of Henry RIDDLESDALE. Rose (BRAND) RIDDLESDALE WARREN married third Nov. 20, 1617, Boxford, Suffolk, Richard GRYMES.

..... John 'the myddle' Warren was a cardmaker of Nayland, Suffolk, England. A card was a metal comb or wire brush used for combing flax or wool. He was taxed sixteen pence there on lands in the subsidy for 8 James I., 1611. His Will was dated March 27, 1613, and proved November 4, 1613. He bequeathed to wife and children, and twenty shillings to poor people of Nayland.[1B]

See Mark Scott's page on his Nayland ancestors. He is most interested in other familes from Nayland. (TEXT OF THE WILL OF JOHN WARREN)

The Will of John Waren of Nayland in the County of Suffolk, cardmaker, 27 Mar. 1613. To be buried in the parish churchyard of Nayland. To wife Rose L20, the household goods and plate she brought with her, my tenement where William Bawlden dwells, during her life, and during her widowhood the parlor and chamber in my now dwelling house. To son John and his lawful issue my mansion house where I now dwell, with the barn, stable and garden lying in Fen Street, excepting the aforesaid two rooms. To daughter Mary and her lawful issue, after the decease of my wife, my said tenement in Fen Street where William Baulden dwells, and in default of such issue to my son John, he to pay 40s. apiece to all my children then living. To sons Isaac, Nathaniel, Amos, and daughter Elizabeth, L10 apiece. To sons Joshua and Thomas L10 each at twenty-one. My plate to be equally divided between my wife and son John, and my household goods to be equally divided among my wife and all my children. To the poor people if Nayland 20s. All the residue of my goods unbequeathed I give to my son John, whom I make my executor. [Signed] John Warrene. Witnesses : William Foorth, John Walter, and Edward Collinges. Proved 4 Nov. 1613 by John Warren, son of the testor and the executor named in the will (P.C.C.,Capell,98.)[2B]

5. Elizabeth Scarlett b. abt 1561, Baptized: 30 Aug 1561, Nayland, Suffolk, England,{7} d. abt 1603, buried: 27 Mar 1602/03, Nayland, Suffolk, England.{5}. Daughter of John SCARLETT and Emma.


Sources:

  • [1] Genealogies and History of Watertown, by Henry Bond
  • [2] Worcester County History
  • [3] American Ancestry, Volume VII, 1982
  • [4] Colonial Families of the United States of America, Volume VI
  • [5] New England Families,Volume IV,1914,by William Richard Cutter
  • [6] Watertown Records,1894 (Land, Grants, and Possessions),Volume 1
  • [7] Middlesex County Probate (First Series Docket 23862),Volume 3
  • [8] Adair GEDCOM (ADAIR.GED),23 SEP 1994,by Matthew Adair,InterNet
  • [9] The Winthrop Fleet of 1630,by Charles Edward Banks Michael Roman: Email: mj_roman@ix.netcom.com
  • Doug Olson :Email: DOlson@aol.com
  • Stephen M. Lawson: Email: lawson@tscnet.com

Also:

  • [1B] New England Families,Volume IV,1914,by William Richard Cutter, p.1975
  • [2B] The New England Historic Genealogical Register,1910,p.349

The Warren-Scarlett ancestry in England is primarily based on the material presented in The Ancestry of Eva Belle Kempton 1878-1908: Part I The Ancestry of Warren Francis Kempton 1817-1879, by Dean Crawford Smith and edited by Melinde Lutz Sanborn (Boston, 1996), pages 462-474. This work contains much additional supporting material, and additional details on family members.

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John "the Middle" Warren's Timeline

1555
August 1, 1555
Nayland, Suffolk, England
1584
October 4, 1584
Age 29
Nayland,,Suffolk,England
1585
May 1, 1585
Age 29
Nayland, Suffolk, , England
1586
November 15, 1586
Age 31
Nayland, Suffolk, England
1587
January 28, 1587
Age 31
Nayland, Suffolk, England
1589
September 7, 1589
Age 34
Nayland, Suffolk Coutny, England
1590
March 14, 1590
Age 34
Nayland, Suffolk, England
1592
1592
Age 36
Nayland, Suffolk, England
1594
April 2, 1594
Age 38
Nayland, Suffolk, England
1596
1596
Age 40
Nayland, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom