John Stroud, SR
|Death:||Died in Prince George, VA, USA|
|Place of Burial:||Brunswick, Virginia, United States|
Son of Edward Strode, III and Joan Strode
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About John Stroud, SR
The Family of John Stroud I
** indicates our line
John Stroud I
Died: about 1737 in Prince George County, VA
Children of John and Hannah
** William Stroud I, born about 1700
John Stroud II, born about 1703
Compiler Beth Brown [above]
d. abt 1737, Brunswick, VA
http://www.bayou.com/~suelynn/jrnixon/wc04/wc04_184.html [above to beth]
Birth circa 1600 England
What follows [except citations] is contributed by Eric Stroud, extensive citations are noted.
I’m taking a logical step here in this generation, but the similarities between this John Stroud, and John Strode son of William Strode and Joan Barnard of Somerset, England and the brother of Edward STRODE born in 1630 at Barrington Somerset are striking. Edward Strode made his way to Chester County, Pennsylvania. He was fleeing the persecution of Queen Mary and King William. Being a strident puritan Edward would not take an oath of allegiance to the Catholic throne. Below an account of this is copied in its entirety:
"Elston quoting Hutchins from The History and Antiquities of the County Dorset says, 'After the accession in 1691 (correct date 13 February 1689) of Queen Mary and King William to the English Throne, Edward Strode refused to take the oath they demanded of him, and was fined forty pounds. The following year another order was issued by the Justice of the Quarter Session. This order was that the oath be administered again, and if Edward Strode still refused, he should be committed to the gaol.' Perry uses the same quote but note the error in date of accession to the throne in both cases. Neither checked their history books.
"The preponderance of evidence is that an Edward Strode, wife and children fled England and went to France and/or Holland. We know it was not Edward Strode (1630-1703) because he died in England in 1703. It must have been Edward (born c.1665), son of Edward of Downside, that fled England.
"It is very likely that Edward Strode (born c.1665) with his wife fled to France or Holland in the reign of James II (1685-1688). The Strodes were obviously strong Protestants. In addition, Edward of Downside's various episodes with the Duke of Monmouth and possible complicity of Edward (his son) could have been more than enough reason for him to flee 'with his wife, children and kinfolk.'
"If Edward fled England after William and Mary attained the throne (1689), as indicated by Hutchins, there may have been other circumstances that encouraged such action as a fine and threat to send Edward to jail. Obviously, the Strodes were non-conformist and rebellious.
"Reports vary as to the destination of the fleeing Strodes. Some contend they went to France to join the Huguenots and, due to persecution, later fled to Holland prior to coming to the New World on the Paysay. Numerous accounts written by various U.S. descendants refer to 'Hollander' or Huguenots (French Protestants). Tradition is not proof, but when accounts from widely differing sources make similar references, there is a strong likelihood of a shred of truth.
"It is agreed, I believe, that Edward, father of the Strode children -- George, Samuel, William, Edward, and probably of Martha and maybe Jeremiah, and kinfolk Barnard -- died on the Paysay (bound for America) shortly before docking at port (probably Philadelphia) and was buried in New Jersey.
"This voyage must have been in 1697, though tradition says 1703. The 1697 date seems the most logical, given Edward Strode's (1630-1703) will dated 24 September 1697 referring to 'my son, Edward, deceased.' In addition, Elston quotes from Administration of Estates Record Bk. A 1683-1700, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania that 'the estate of Edward Stroud of Philadelphia, intestate, granted 12 October 1699 to George Strode, chief creditor and next of kin.'
"We do not know if and how George Strode was related to the orphans. George Strode was born about 1660 and was taxed on 300 acres in Concord Township, Chester County, Pennsylvania in 1689.
"The four male orphans, according to the family history of Edward Strode, would have been 7 to 12 years of age in 1697. Martha and Jeremiah's ages were unknown but probably younger. Barnard, probably a nephew of Edward, was provided for by Nicholas Depui, living at Amwell, New Jersey. The other orphans may have been in New Jersey too. But Elston feels they were bound out after they landed until of legal age near the Strodes in Chester County, Pennsylvania, which is just across the Delaware river from New Jersey.”
Meanwhile back in Summerset we see at the death of Edward and John’s father also named Edward that both sons had gone missing by the time his estate was settled [citation below].
"In Elston's Vol. II there is a chart that supplies basic information on William (1593-1666) and on Edward's (1630-1703) children. Edward's will abstracted by Mr. Robert Massey at the request of Elston and showed the will was dated 24 September 1697 at Shepton Mallet. Elizabeth, his unmarried daughter, was executrix. The will was proved in London 24 January 1703/04. Edward's will mentions son John and 4 daughters and their children. More importantly it says 'my son, Edward, deceased.' Thus Edward must have written his will sometime after Edward (born about 1665), our ancestor, died enroute to the New World with his family of small children.
"In Elizabeth Strode's will of 1715, there is mention made of her three sisters and their children, but no mention of Edward or John (her brothers). Elizabeth must have retained the rebellious ways of her father and other Strodes. Mention is made of her non-conformist ways and activities.
To illuminate the forgoing citation a bit more, John who I believe is one and the same as “John Stroud I” as we have come to call him would have been borne  just two years after his brother Edward . We do not have a similar story of John fleeing England as we do for Edward but neither do we have any explanation of his disappearance. If he is one in the same as “John I” then he died in 1737 at the age of 70. He would have been 24 years old when Queen Mary and King William started making trouble for the brothers. This means “John I” would have sired his last son at the age of 65 in 1732 with his second wife Hannah Rose Stroud, the same year his grandson William Stroud II was born to his Son William Stroud I. Assuming this is the case, we would expect that the brothers left England for similar reasons, though probably at different times. This would explain why John is not connected to the children of his brother Edward who we presume died on the voyage.
If you grant me the forgoing explanation, which I believe to be warranted and reasonable then you will grant me the particular information about John I regarding his first wife and birth, baptism etc.
The source for the citations above can be viewed at this link: http://www.vnla.com/vnl/gen/mcq/Strode.htm
John Stroud, SR's Timeline
October 13, 1675
Prince George Co, Virginia
Prince George Co, Virginia
Sappony Ck, Bristol Parish, Prince George Co, Virginia
Prince George Co, Virginia
Brunswick, Virginia, United States
Prince George, VA, USA