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Ranulf I d'Auvergne (d'Aquitaine), Duc d'Aquitaine Comte de Poitiers

Also Known As: "Rainulf", "Rainulphe", "Rannoux", "Rannulf", "Ramnulf", "Ranulph", "and Ranulph"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France
Death: Died in Brissarthe, Maine-et-Loire, France
Cause of death: tué par les vikings lors de la bataille de Brissarthe
Immediate Family:

Son of Gérard, count of Auvergne and Rotrude, daughter of Louis I the Pious and Ermengard
Husband of Bilichild of Maine; Adeltrude du Maine and Bilichilde ii du Maine, daughter of Roricon II & Bilichilde, sister of Roricon III
Father of Ranulf 11 of Aquitaine; Ranulf II, duc d'Aquitaine; Ermengarda de Poitiers and Ebles de Poitiers, abbé de Saint Denis
Brother of Gerard d'Auvergne and Hildegarde d'Auvergne

Occupation: Hertug, 839 bis 866 ein Graf von Poitou und von 841 bis 866 Abt von Saint-Hilaire-de-Poitiers, Comte, d'Angoulême, de Poitiers, du Poitou, Duc, d'Aquitaine, Abbé laïc, de Saint-Hilaire, de Poitie, Count of Poitou, Duc d'Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou
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About Ranulf I d'Auvergne, Comte de Poitiers Duc d'Aquitaine

Ranulf I (also Ramnulf, Rannulf, and Ranulph; 820 – 866) was a Count of Poitiers (from 835) and Duke of Aquitaine (from 852).

Ranulf is generally considered to have been the son of Gerard, Count of Auvergne, and one of his wives--possibly Hildegard or Rotrude, daughter of Louis the Pious and Ermengard.

The identity of Ranulf's mother is contested, and possible contenders are two daughters of Louis I 'the Pious' (and this granddaughters of Charlemagne): d'Aquitaine and Rotrude d'Aquitaine.

Few details are known about Ranulf I, except that he died in 866 in Aquitaine from wounds received in the Battle of Brissarthe against the Vikings (in which Robert the Strong also died). Ranulf I, is the 32nd Great-Grandfather to Queen Elizabeth II.

Marriage and children

He married ?? (possibly Adaltrude, daughter of Rorgon I of Maine and Rothrude. See below.)

He may have been married more than once.

Children attributed to him are:

  • Ranulf II, who inherited Poitou and later acquired Aquitaine (d 890)
  • Gauzbert, (died in battle, 892)
  • Ebalus (Abbot, d. 892)

Included below is a translation from the French wikipedia about the various hypotheses regarding the identities of Ranulf's wife. For original text, see farther below.

The classic hypothesis

Otto-Gerhart Oexle slightly corrected this genealogy by recalling that no text named the mother of Ramnulf II, nor is there any indication that Bilichilde remarried Bernard Poitevin after Ranulf's death. The wife of Ramnulf I might instead have been a sister Bilichilde [16], perhaps by the name of Adaltrude [17].

The hypothesis of Settipani

Christian Settipani noted that this structure poses several problems:

1. date of birth of Ramnulf I: If by his mother he is grandson of Pepin I of Aquitaine and Raingarde, he can hardly have been born before 838, when his mother would have been at least fifteen years old. This birthday makes improbable the nomination of Ramnulf as Count of Poitiers in 839 (according to Ademar of Chabannes) or even 854: it does not name a nobleman of sixteen years of age at the head of a county particularly vulnerable to incursions from Vikings. Some historians have considered 'gener' to be translated in the sense of "brother", but more context militates in favor of the meaning of "son". The conclusion of Settipani is to say that Ramnulf I comes from a first marriage of Gerard d'Auvergne [18].

2. The marriage between Ramnulf I and a daughter of Count Rorgon I of Maine creates between Ramnulf and Raino / Ragenold a link of kinship by marriage which does not correspond to the different meanings of 'consanguineus'. The conclusion by Christian Settipani is that Ramnulf is the cousin of the counts of Maine and not his wife or by marriage. It proposes to see the mother of Ramnulf as a woman from the counts of Maine. The Latin word nepos means "nephew", but can also take the meaning of "grand-son" or "nephew". According to the latter sense, the others being excluded, the mother of Ramnulf would be daughter of Rorgon I and Rothrude rather than Bilichilde, for chronological reasons [19]. He proposed the name Adaltrude [17].

Finally, the reconstruction does not include the link of kinship between Ramnulf II and William the Pious. The proposed Christien Settipani is to see the mother of Ramnulf II as an aunt of William the Pious. He assumes a paternal aunt to explain the transmission of the first name of William, although that name already exists in the family in the brother of Gerard of Auvergne [20].

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Ramnulf I. (Poitou)

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Ramnulf I. von Poitou, auch Ranulf oder Rainulf genannt, (* um 820; † 15. September 866) war von 839 bis 866 ein Graf von Poitou und von 841 bis 866 Abt von Saint-Hilaire-de-Poitiers aus der Familie der Ramnulfiden.

Leben

Ramnulf war der Sohn des Grafen Gerhard von Auvergne und einer Tochter des Kaisers Ludwig dem Frommen. Von seinem kaiserlichen Großvater erhielt er nach der Absetzung König Pippins II. von Aquitanien 839 die Grafschaft Poitou übertragen. 864 nahm er Pippin II. gefangen und lieferte ihn an König Karl den Kahlen aus. Ständig im Kampf gegen die einfallenden Normannen befindlich, fiel Ramnulf zusammen mit Markgraf Robert dem Tapferen in der Schlacht von Brissarthe (866) nach einem Pfeiltreffer.

Ramnulf begründete die herausragende Machtstellung seiner Familie im westlichen Aquitanien und führte selbst zeitweise den Titel eines Dux.

Verheiratet war er mit Bilchilde, einer Tochter des Grafen Roricos I. von Maine aus der Familie der Rorgoniden. Sie hatten drei Kinder:

  • Ramnulf II. (* um 855; † 5. August 890), Graf von Poitou
  • Gauzbert († 892), im Kampf gegen König Odo getötet
  • Ebalus († 2. Oktober 892), Abt von St. Germain (881), St. Denis (886) und St. Hilaire (889). Seit 888 Kanzler von König Odo, dann aber gegen diesen im Kampf getötet.

Weblinks

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Aquitaine (covering his birth and married family):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm#RainulfIPoitoudied866

GERARD (-killed in battle Fontenoy 25 Jun 841).

Comte d'Auvergne. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Ebroinus…Pictavensis episcopo Flateram…Reginardus comes, Gerardus itidem comes et gener quondam Pippini regis [et] Ratharius…comes Pippini gener" [in 839][248].

m firstly ---.

An earlier marriage is indicated by the chronology of the family of Gérard´s known wife, which shows that his son Ramnulf could not have been born from that marriage.

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m secondly --- [MATHILDE] [d´Aquitaine], daughter of PEPIN I King of Aquitaine [Carolingian] & his wife Ringardis.

Her affiliation is indicated by the Vita Hludovici which names "Gerardus…comes et gener quondam Pippini necnon Ratherius similiter comes Pippini gener"[249]. If this is correct, the two counts were much older than their wives. Some authors have therefore suggested that "brothers-in-law" is a more accurate translation of generes and that the two counts were therefore married to two daughters of Emperor Louis I[250]. Settipani[251] argues that this is incompatible with the context in which the term is used in the Vita.

The Vita Sancti Geraldi Compendium names "Mathildem filiam Pippini Aquitaniæ regis…Geraldi aviam" and his parents "patre Geraldo Auriliaci comite…matre Adaltrude" when recording the birth of "Geraldum" in 855[252].

Comte Gérard & his first wife had one child:

a) =RAMNULF [Rainulf] ([815]-killed in battle near Brissarthe Oct 866).=

He was installed as RAINULF I Comte de Poitou in [839].

The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that "Ramnulfum filium Girardi comitis Arvernis, nepotem Willelmi fratris Girardi" was installed as Comte de Poitou after "Emeno…comes Pictavinus" was expelled by Emperor Louis for supporting the accession of Pepin II King of Aquitaine after the death of the latter's father [in 838][253].

He was installed as Duke of Aquitaine in 852.

The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that "Rannulfus…comes Pictavensis et Raino comes Arbatilicensis consanguineus eius" fled after being defeated by the Vikings at "Briliaco villa", the event being dated from the context to the early 850s[254]. The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence records that "Ramnulfus comes…Pictavensis et Raino comes Arbaticensis, consanguineus eius" fled from the Vikings who attacked "Briliaco villa" in 852[255]. He was a supporter of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks. The Annales Bertiniani name "Ramnulfus" among those wounded in the Viking attack in 866, and later dying from his wounds[256].

The Adonis Continuatio records that "Robertus quoque atque Ramnulfus…inter primos ipsi priores" were killed by the Vikings in 866[257].

m ([845]) --- du Maine, daughter of RORICO [I] Comte du Maine & his wife Bilechildis.

Her origin is indicated by Abbo's De Bellis Parisiacæ which names "Ebolus…Abba" as nepos of "Gauzlinus…pontificis"[258], the latter being reported in other sources as the son of Rorico [I] Comte du Maine. It is possible that the wife of Comte Rainulf was Comte Rorico's daughter named [Bilichildis], whose [first] husband Bernard Comte en Poitou was killed in battle in 844.

Comte Rainulf I & his wife had three children:

i) RAINULF ([845/50]-after Jul 892).

The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes specifies that "Ramnulfus…comes Pictaviensis" was "consanguineus…Willelmi…comitis Arvernis"[259]. The Chronico Richardi Pictavensis also states that "Ramnulfus consanguineus erat Willelmi Pii Aquitanorum Ducis et Arveniæ Comitis"[260]. The relationship between Rainulf and Duke Guillaume has not yet been traced.

After the death of Rainulf's father in 866, he and his brothers were deprived of their inheritance. It appears that no-one was at that time installed as Comte de Poitou, the county being administered by Louis King of Aquitaine, son of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[261].

He appears to have been finally installed as RAINULF II Comte de Poitou in [878], judging by his heading the list of confirmants of his brother's Apr 878 donation to the church of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers[262].

After the death of Louis II "le Bègue" King of the West Franks, Comte Rainulf had custody of the late king's youngest son Charles, who later succeeded as Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks[263]. After the deposition of Emperor Karl III in Nov 887, Comte Rainulf claimed the succession to the kingdom of Aquitaine and supported the candidature of Guy of Spoleto as King of the Franks[264].

He was appointed Duke of Aquitaine in 888. Regino names "Ramnulfum et fratrem eius Gozbertum et Ebulonem abbatum de sancto Dionysio" when recording their battle against "Waltgerius comes" in Jul 892[265].

The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence records the death in 890 of "Ramnulfus comes Pictavinus"[266], but the year is incorrect if Regino correctly names Rainulf in Jul 892.

m [ERMENGARDE, daughter of ---] (-1 Jul after 890).

The name of the wife of Comte Rainulf II is not known with certainty. "Gauzberto comite, Ramnulfus comes, Ermengarde…" subscribed the charter dated Apr 878 under which "Gauzbertus comes" donated property "in pago Santonico…in villa…Dorodonno" to the church of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers[267]. Richard suggests that Ermengarde must have been the wife of one of the named counts because of the order of the signatures[268]. Richard rejects the hypothesis that Adda "coniunx Ramnulf", whose tomb was discovered at Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, was the wife of Comte Rainulf II[269].

Mistress (1): ---. The name of Comte Rainulf's mistress is not known.

Comte Rainulf II & his wife had [one child], Rainulf III (d. 901)

Comte Rainulf II had one illegitimate son by an unknown Mistress, Ebalus or Eble "Mancer" (870/75-932/34)

ii) GAUZBERT [Josbert] (-killed in battle late 892).

Regino names "Ramnulfum et fratrem eius Gozbertum et Ebulonem abbatum de sancto Dionysio" when recording their battle against "Waltgerius comes" in Jul 892[274]. "Gauzbertus comes" donated property "in pago Santonico…in villa…Dorodonno" to the church of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers by charter dated Apr 878, subscribed by "Ramnulfus comes…"[275]. Regino names "Ramnulfum et fratrem eius Gozbertum et Ebulonem abbatum de sancto Dionysio" when recording their battle against "Waltgerius comes" in Jul 892[276].

He was killed during the siege of one of his castles by Eudes King of France[277]. The death of "frater quoque eius [Ebulus] Gotbertus" is recorded in late 892 in the Annales Vedastini[278].

iii) EBALUS [Eble] (857-killed in battle 2 Oct 892).

Abbo's De Bellis Parisiacæ names "Ebolus…Abba" as nepos of "Gauzlinus…pontificis"[279], the latter being reported in other sources as the son of Rorico [I] Comte du Maine. Regino names "Ramnulfum et fratrem eius Gozbertum et Ebulonem abbatum de sancto Dionysio" when recording their battle against "Waltgerius comes" in Jul 892[280].

Abbé de Saint-Germain, Paris 881.

Abbé de Saint-Denis 886.

He was appointed Chancellor of France by King Eudes [Capet] after the latter's accession in 888[281].

Abbé de Saint-Hilaire-de-Poitiers 889.

Eudes King of France confirmed the properties of "abbas Ebolus…Hilarii" by charter dated 30 Dec 889[282].

King Eudes deprived him of the chancellorship in 892 after Eble refused to abandon the cause of his nephew Comte Eble[283].

He was killed at the siege of the castle either of Brillac en Poitou or of Loudun[284].

Comte Gérard & his [first/second] wife had one daughter (wife of Foulques de Limoges, d. c.886)

Comte Gérard & his second wife had one child, Gerard (d. before 879)

References:

[247] Adémar de Chabannes III, 16, p. 132.

[248] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 61, MGH SS II, p. 645.

[249] Vita Hludovici Imperatoris 61, MGH SS II, p. 645.

[250] Auzias, L. (1937) L'Aquitaine carolingienne (778-987) (Toulouse-Paris), p. 93, and Werner, K. F. (1967) 'Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen bis um Jahr 1000 (1.-8. Generation)', Karl der Große, IV, p. 447, both cited in Settipani (1993), p. 279.

[251] Settipani (1993), pp. 279-80.

[252] Vita Sancti Geraldi Compendium, 2, Patrologia Latina, Vol. 133, col. 0703C.

[253] Adémar de Chabannes III, 16, p. 132.

[254] Adémar de Chabannes III, 18, p. 135.

[255] Chronicon sancti Maxentii Pictavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 366.

[256] Annales Bertiniani III 866.

[257] Adonis Continuatio Prima, Auctore Anonymo 866, MGH SS II, p. 324.

[258] Abbonis Monachi S. Germani Parisiensis, De Bellis Parisiacæ urbis et Odonis comitis, post Regis II, line 68, RHGF VIII, p. 5.

[259] Adémar de Chabannes III, 21, pp. 139 and 140.

[260] Chronico Richardi Pictavensis, RHGF IX, p.21.

[261] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 48.

[262] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 53.

[263] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 57.

[264] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 58-9.

[265] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 604.

[266] Chronicon sancti Maxentii Pictavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 371.

[267] Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, VIII, p. 11.

[268] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 43, footnote 6 continuation on p. 44.

[269] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 43, footnote 6 continuation on p. 44.

[274] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 604.

[275] Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, VIII, p. 11.

[276] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 604.

[277] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 71.

[278] Annales Vedastini 892, MGH SS II, p. 206.

[279] Abbonis Monachi S. Germani Parisiensis, De Bellis Parisiacæ urbis et Odonis comitis, post Regis II, line 68, RHGF VIII, p. 5.

[280] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 604.

[281] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 60.

[282] Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, IX, p. 12.

[283] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 69.

[284] Richard (1903) Tome I, p. 71 footnote 18.

[285] ES II 76.

[286] Vita Sancti Geraldi Compendium, 2, Patrologia Latina, Vol. 133, col. 0703C.

[287] ES II 76.

[288] Vita Sancti Geraldi Compendium, 2, Patrologia Latina, Vol. 133, col. 0703C.

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From the French Wikipedia page on Ramnulf I de Poitiers:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramnulf_Ier_de_Poitiers

Ramnulf Ier, Rainulf Ier ou Renoul Ier de Poitiers († octobre 866)[1], est comte de Poitiers, duc d'Aquitaine de 854 à 866 et abbé de Saint-Hilaire de 841 à 866.

Biographie

Il est le fils de Gérard, comte d'Auvergne, fidèle partisan de l'empereur Louis le Pieux, puis du roi Charles le Chauve, qui est mort en 841 lors de la bataille de Fontenoy-en-Puisaye qui opposa les forces de Louis le Germanique et de Charles le Chauve d'une part à celle de leur frère aîné Lothaire Ier et de leur neveu Pépin II d'Aquitaine[2],[3],[4].

Selon le chroniqueur Adémar de Chabannes, il est nommé comte de Poitiers en 840, après que Louis le Pieux ait déposé le comte Émenon, coupable d'avoir soutenu la révolte de Pépin II d'Aquitaine[1]. Cette affirmation pose cependant une problème chronologique, car Ramnulf est alors âgé d'au plus quinze ans, ce qui est plutôt jeune pour organise la défense d'un comté particulièrement exposé aux vikings[5]. Si Louis le Pieux avait voulu favoriser la famille de Ramnulf, il aurait pu confier le comté à son père Gérard d'Auvergne ou à son oncle Guillaume, alors encore vivants. La date de 854, qui correspond à la mort d’Ebroïn, évêque de Poitiers, semble plus plausible. C'est en tout cas la date effective de l'entrée en fonction de Ramnulf comme comte de Poitiers[6].

En 864, il surprend une troupe de Normands qui ravage son comté, et fait prisonnier Pépin II d'Aquitaine, qui s’était allié à eux. Il le livre à Charles le Chauve, qui le fait tonsurer et cloîtrer à Senlis[7]. En concertation avec Robert le Fort, il combat les vikings qui pillent la vallée de la Loire et particulièrement leur chef Hasting. Ils parviennent à le surprendre à proximité de Châteauneuf-sur-Sarthe, alors qu'il vient de piller Le Mans. Les vikings se réfugient dans l'église de Brissarthe qui est assiégée par les Francs. Les Vikings effectuent une sortie le 2 juillet 866, au cours de laquelle Robert le Fort est tué et Ramnulf grièvement blessé d'une flèche viking[8]. Il meurt de ses blessures peu après, en octobre 866[1].

comte de Poitiers 854-866

Preceeded by Ébroïn, évêque (bishop) de Poitiers

Succeeded by Bernard III de Gothie

duc d'Aquitaine 854-866

Preceeded by Begon 843

Succeeded by Ramnulf II 888-890

Famille

Les certitudes

1. Selon Adémar de Chabannes, Ramnulf est fils de Gérard, comte d'Auvergne, et neveu de Guillaume[9].

2. La Vita Hludovici Pii indique que Gérard d'Auvergne est un gendre (gener) de Pépin Ier d'Aquitaine[10].

3. Le moine et chroniqueur Abbon de Fleury, dans De Bellis Parisiacæ urbis et Odonis comitis, indique qu'Ebles, abbé de Saint-Denis, fils de Ramnulf Ier, est le nepos de l'abbé Gauzlin, identifié à un fils homonyme du comte Rorgon Ier du Maine. Le prénom du comte Gauzbert, autre fils de Ramnulf Ier, renforce cette parenté avec les comtes du Maine.

4. Adémar de Chabannes racontent qu'au début des années 850s, Ramnulf, comte de Poitiers, et Raino, comte d'Herbauges, son consanguineus combattent les Vikings qui avaient attaqué Briliaco villa[11]. Raino, ou Ragenold est par ailleurs connu comme étant un Rorgonide : c'est en effet à ce dernier que le roi confie la tutelle des enfants de Gauzfrid du Maine, mort en 878.

5. Enfin, Adémar de Chabannes précise que le comte Géraud d'Aurillac, à qui a été confié la tutelle d'Ebles Manzer, fils de Ramnulf II, décide de le confier à Guillaume le Pieux, un cousin de Ramnulf II[12].

L'hypothèse classique

Otto-Gerhart Oexle a légèrement corrigé cette généalogie en rappelant qu'aucun texte ne nomme la mère de Ramnulf II, pas plus qu'il y en a pour affirmer que Bilichilde se soit remariée après son veuvage d'avec Bernard le Poitevin. L'épouse de Ramnulf Ier pourrait aussi bien être une sœur de Bilichilde[16], peut-être du nom d'Adaltrude[17].

L'hypothèse de Settipani

Christian Settipani a fait remarquer que cette construction pose plusieurs problèmes :

1. la date de naissance de Ramnulf Ier : si par sa mère il est petit-fils de Pépin Ier d'Aquitaine et de Raingarde, il peut difficilement être né avant 838, date où sa mère aurait au plus quinze ans. Cette date de naissance rend improbable la nomination de Ramnulf comme comte de Poitiers en 839 (selon Adémar de Chabannes) ou même en 854 : on ne nomme pas un noble de seize ans à la tête d'un comté particulièrement exposé aux incursions vikings. Certains historiens ont considéré que gener était à prendre au sens de « beau-frère », mais le contexte milite plus en faveur du sens de « gendre ». La conclusion de Christian Settipani est de dire que Ramnulf Ier est issu d'un premier mariage de Gérard d'Auvergne[18].

2. le mariage entre Ramnulf Ier et une fille du comte Rorgon Ier du Maine induit entre Ramnulf et Raino/Ragenold un lien de cousinage par alliance qui ne correspond pas aux différents sens de consanguineus. La conclusion de Christian Settipani est que c'est Ramnulf le cousin des comtes du Maine et non son épouse. Il propose de voir en la mère de Ramnulf une femme issue des comtes du Maine. Le mot latin nepos signifie « neveu », mais peut aussi prendre le sens de « petit-fils » ou de « petit-neveu ». Selon ce dernier sens, les autres étant exclus, la mère de Ramnulf serait fille de Rorgon Ier et de Rothrude, plutôt que de Bilichilde, pour des raisons chronologiques[19]. Il propose de la nommer Adaltrude[17].

Enfin la reconstruction ne tient pas compte du lien de cousinage entre Ramnulf II et Guillaume le Pieux. La proposition de Christien Settipani est de voir en la mère de Ramnulf II une tante de Guillaume le Pieux. Il suppose une tante paternelle pour expliquer la transmission du prénom de Guillaume, bien que ce prénom existe déjà dans la famille en la personne du frère de Gérard d'Auvergne[20].

Notes et références

1.↑ a, b et c Foundarion for Medieval Genealogy

2.↑ Le Jan 1995, p. 300.

3.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 294.

4.↑ Settipani 2000, p. 97.

5.↑ Settipani 1993, p. 279-281.

6.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 47.

7.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 49-50.

8.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 50-51.

9.↑ « Ramnulfum filium Girardi comitis Arvernis, nepotem Willelmi fratris Girardi », Adémar de Chabannes, III, 21 (FMG).

10.↑ « Gerardus…comes et gener quondam Pippini necnon Ratherius similiter comes Pippini gener », Vita Hludovici Imperatoris 61, MGH SS II, p. 645 (FMG).

11.↑ Adémar de Chabannes III, 18 (FMG).

12.↑ « Qui Ramnulfus consanguineus erat Willelmi, noblissimi comitis Arvernis », Adémar de Chabannes, III, 21 (Settipani 2000, p. 99).

13.↑ Léon Levillain, « L'abbé Ebles, chancelier du roi Eudes », dans La correspondance historiaue et archéologique, 1902, p. 364-5 .

14.↑ Pierre Riché, Les Carolingiens, une famille qui fit l'Europe, Hachette, coll. « Pluriel », Paris, 1983 (réimpr. 1997), 490 p. (ISBN 2-01-278851-3), p. 380, tab.XXXIV .

15.↑ Dillange 1995, p. 294.

16.↑ Otto-Gerhart Oexle, « Bishof Ebroin von Poitiers und seine Verwandten », dans Frühmittelalterliche Studien, 1969, p. 184 .

17.↑ a et b Il y a dans plusieurs documents relatifs aux Ramnulfiens (le Liber Memorialis de Reichenau, la charte de donation du comte Gailo en faveur de Noirmoutier) une femme du nom d'Adaltrude qui semble avoir une position importante parmi les Ramnulfiens. Adaltrude est un prénom rorgonide portée par la mère de Rorgon Ier (Settipani 2000, p. 87-89).

18.↑ Settipani 1993, p. 278-181.

19.↑ Settipani 2000, p. 98-100.

20.↑ Settipani 2000, p. 99-100 et 105.

Bibliographie

Régine le Jan, Famille et pouvoir dans le Monde Franc : VIIe-Xe siècle, Publication de la Sorbonne, 1995 (ISBN 2-85944-268-5)

Michel Dillange, Les Comtes de Poitou, Ducs d'Aquitaine (778-1204), Geste éditions, coll. « La Crèche », 1995, 304 p. (ISBN 2-910919-09-9)

Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)

Christian Settipani, « Les origines des comtes de Nevers », dans Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval, Prosopographica et genealogica, Oxford, 2000, 310 p. (ISBN 1-900934-01-9), p. 85-112

In English:

Ranulf I (d. October 866) was Comte de Poitiers and Duc d'Aquitaine (854-866), and Abbot of St-Hilaire (841-866).

Biography

He was the son of Gerard, Comte d'Auvergne, a loyal supporter of Emperor Louis The Pious, and King Charles the Bald, who died in 841 at the Battle of Fontenoy-en-Puisaye (when forces of Louis the German and Charles the Bald fought against their elder brother Lothair I and their nephew Pepin II of Aquitaine).

According to Ademar of Chabannes, he was appointed Comte de Poitiers in 840 after Louis the Pious found his predecessor Emenon guilty of having supported the revolt of Pepin II of Aquitaine. This assertion poses a chronological problem, however, as Ranulf was then age 15, which is rather young to organize the defense of a county that was particularly vulnerable to Vikings. If Louis the Pious really wanted to promote Ranulf's family, he would have assigned the county to his father, Geraud d'Auvergne, and his uncle Guillaume, who were still alive.

The date 854 corresponds to the death of Ebroin, Bishop of Poitiers, which seems more plausible as a predecessor. In any case, this is the effective date of Ranulf's start as the Comte de Poitiers.

In 864, he surprised a band of Normans who were ravaging his county and took prisoner Pepin II of Aquitaine, who was allied to them. He was imprisoned by Charles the Bald, who had him tonsured and cloistered at Senlis.

Together with Robert Le Fort, he fought the Vikings who raided the Loire Valley, in particular their leader Hastings. They managed to surprise him at Chateauneuf-sur-Sarthe, when he had come to loot Le Mans. The Vikings took refuge in the church of Brissarth, which was then besieged by the Franks. The Vikings sallied from the church on 2 July 866, during which time Robert Le Fort was killed and Ranulf was mortally wounded by a Viking arrow. He died of his wounds in October 866.

Family

Certainties:

1. According to Ademar of Chabannes, Ranulf is the son of Gerard, Comte d'Auvergne, and nephew of William

2. The Vita Pii Hludovici indicates that Gerard d'Auvergne was the son of Pepin I of Aquitaine.

3. The monk and chronicler Abbo de Fleury, in De Bellis et Parisiacae urbis Odonis comitis, says that Eble, Abbot of St-Denis, son of Ranulf I, is the nepos of the Abbot Gauzlin, identified with a son's namesake, Comte Rogon I du Maine. The name of Count Gauzbert, another son of Ranulf I, strengthens this kinship with the counts of Maine.

4. Ademar of Chabannes states that in the early 850s, Ranulf, Comte de Poitiers and Raino, Comte d'Herbauges, his "consanguineus", fought the Vikings who attacked Briliaco Villa. Raino or Ragenold is also known as Rorgonide: it was to him that the King entrusted the guardianship of his child Gauzfrid du Maine, who died in 878.

5. Finally, Ademar of Chabannes states that Comte d'Aurillac Gerard, who was awarded guardianship of Ebles Manzer, son of Ranulf II, decided to entrust his cousin William the Pious to Ranulf II.

The Standard Assumption:

Leon Levillain compiled the standard genealogical table that is still accepted by historians.

Otto-Gerhart Oexle corrected this genealogical table slightly, recalling that no text has named the mother of Ranulf II, no more than to say that Bilichilde was remarried after becoming a widow, to Bernard of Poitevin. the wife of Ranulf I might also well be a sister of Bilichilde, perhaps named Adaltrude.

The Settipani hypothesis

Christian Settipani noted that this construction poses several problems:

1. The date of birth of Ranulf I: If his mother Raingarde quickly gave a son to Pepin I of Aquitaine, he could hardly have been born before 838, when his mother would have been no more than 15. The date of birth makes it unlikely that the appointment of Ranulf as Comte de Poitiers took place in 839 (according to Ademar of Chabannes) or even 854: we do not appoint a nobleman of 16 to the head of a county especially exposed to the incursions of Vikings. Some historians have considered gener to mean "brother," but the context further militates in favor of "son." The conclusion of Christian Settipani is to say that Ranulf I comes from a first marriage of Gerard d'Auvergne.

2. Ranulf I's marriage to a daughter of Rorgon I Comte du Maine inducing a link of kinship between Ranulf and Raino/Ragenold by marriage does not correspond to the different meanings of consanguineus. The conclusion of Christian Settipani is that Ranulf was the cousin of the Counts of Maine and not his wife. He proposes that the mother of Ranulf was a woman of the Counts of Maine.. The Latin word nepos means "nephew", but can also mean "grandson". According to this latter meaning, the others being excluded, the mother of Ranulf is the daughter of Rorgon I and Rothrude, rather than Bilichilde. For historical reasons, he suggests that this is Adaltrude.

3. Finally, the reconstruction does not take into account the kinship relationship between Ranulf II and William the Pious. Christian Settipani proposes that the mother of Ranulf II was the aunt of William the Pious. He assumes a paternal aunt to explain the transmission of the first name of Guillaume, although this name already existed in the family in the brother of Gerard d'Auvergne.

English Wikipedia notes that Ranulf I is the 32nd Great-Grandfather of Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. -------------------- Ranulfo I, duque de Poitiers (abuelo) nació hacia el año de 818. Casó con Aldetruda de Maine (ver nota 5).

(5) Aldetruda de Maine fue hija de Roricon II de Maine y Bilechilda; Roricon era nieto de Carlomagno a través de su madre: ver Carolingios.

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See also : http://fjaunais.free.fr/h0maine.htm -------------------- http://gw5.geneanet.org/samlap?lang=en;p=godehilde;n=de+france

He married in 845 to Bilichilde du Maine. Their son Ramnulf II de Poitiers, born about 850, was also "Roi d'Aquitaine." -------------------- Ranulf I (also Ramnulf, Rannulf, and Ranulph) (820–866) was a Count of Poitiers (from 835) and Duke of Aquitaine (from 852). He is considered a possible son of Gerard, Count of Auvergne, and Hildegard (or Matilda), daughter of Louis the Pious and Ermengard. Few details are known about Ranulf I, except that he died in 866 in Aquitaine from wounds received in the Battle of Brissarthe against the Vikings (in which Robert the Strong also died). Ranulf I is a 32x great-grandfather of Elizabeth II. -------------------- Ranulf I (also Ramnulf, Rannulf, and Ranulph) (820–866) was a Count of Poitiers (from 835) and Duke of Aquitaine (from 852). He is considered a possible son of Gerard, Count of Auvergne, and Hildegard (or Matilda), daughter of Louis the Pious and Ermengard. Few details are known about Ranulf I, except that he died in 866 in Aquitaine from wounds received in the Battle of Brissarthe against the Vikings (in which Robert the Strong also died). Ranulf I is a 32x great-grandfather of Elizabeth II. -------------------- Ranulf I of Aquitaine

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ranulf I (also Ramnulf, Rannulf, and Ranulph; 820 – 866) was a Count of Poitiers (from 835) and Duke of Aquitaine (from 852). He is considered a possible son of Gerard, Count of Auvergne, and Hildegard (or Matilda), daughter of Louis the Pious and Ermengard. Few details are known about Ranulf I, except that he died in 866 in Aquitaine from wounds received in the Battle of Brissarthe against the Vikings (in which Robert the Strong also died). Ranulf I, is the 32nd Great-Grandfather to Queen Elizabeth II

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Marriage and issue

He married Bilichild of Maine and they had the following:

Ranulf II, who inherited Poitou and later acquired Aquitaine

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Ranulf I is a 32x great-grandfather of Elizabeth II.

He is considered a possible son of Gerard, Count of Auvergne, and Hildegard (or Matilda), daughter of Louis the Pious and Ermengard. -------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranulf_I_of_Aquitaine

Ranulf I (also Ramnulf, Rannulf, and Ranulph) (820–866) was a Count of Poitiers (from 835) and Duke of Aquitaine (from 852). He is considered a possible son of Gerard, Count of Auvergne, and Hildegard (or Matilda), daughter of Louis the Pious and Ermengard. Few details are known about Ranulf I, except that he died in 866 in Aquitaine from wounds received in the Battle of Brissarthe against the Vikings (in which Robert the Strong also died). Ranulf I is a 32x great-grandfather of Elizabeth II. -------------------- Ranulf I (also Ramnulf, Rannulf, and Ranulph) (820–866) was a Count of Poitiers (from 835) and Duke of Aquitaine (from 852). He is considered a possible son of Gerard, Count of Auvergne, and Hildegard (or Matilda), daughter of Louis the Pious and Ermengard. Few details are known about Ranulf I, except that he died in 866 in Aquitaine from wounds received in the Battle of Brissarthe against the Vikings (in which Robert the Strong also died). Ranulf I is a 32x great-grandfather of Elizabeth II.

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Ranulf I d'Auvergne, Comte de Poitiers Duc d'Aquitaine's Timeline

820
820
Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France
835
835
- October 866
Age 15
Poitiers, Poitou, France
840
840
Age 20
841
841
- October 866
Age 21
St-Hilaire, France
845
845
Age 25
France
850
850
Age 30
854
854
- October 866
Age 34
Aquitaine, France
855
855
Age 35
Poitiers, Poitou, Aquitaine (Present Poitou-Charentes), (Present France)
866
July 5, 866
Age 46
Brissarthe, Maine-et-Loire, France
866
Age 46
Duke of Aquitaine