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Raoul II de Toeni (de Tosny), seigneur de Tosny

Also Known As: "Raoul II (Rodulf) (Ralph) de Toeni / Tosny / Toni", "de Todeniaco", "de Ternois", "Rodulf II /De Toeni/", "Seigneur de Toeni /Rodulph/", "Rudolph"
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Birthplace: Tosny, Haute-Normandie, France
Death: Died in Guerny, Eure, Normandy, France
Place of Burial: France
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Son of Raoul I de Tosny, Seigneur de Tosny and NN wife of Raoul I de Toeni
Husband of Judith Alice de Bayeux
Father of Raoul III de Toeni / Tosny / Toni, of Conches; Roger I 'd'Espagne' de Tosny; Hugo de Limesi and Adele De Toeni
Brother of Osbert de Toeni and Roger De Tosni

Occupation: Seigneur of Tosny, Hereditary Standard Bearer of Normandy, Named by Duke Richard II as one of guardians of the château de Tillières, Sieur, de Tosny, de Conches, Seigneur de Toeni, Sieur de Toeni
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About Raoul II de Toeni, seigneur de Tosny

NOTE: The reason we have numbered him as Raoul II (I) is because he is listed as Raoul I in Wikipedia and some other sources.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#RogerConchesdied1040 Updated March 2015

RAOUL [II] de Tosny, son of RAOUL [I] [de Tosny] & his wife --- . "…Rodulphi filii Rodulphi de Todeniaco…" subscribed the undated charter under which "Richardus…Normannorum comes" confirmed property of Lisieux[2853]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that Duke Richard appointed “Nigellum Constantinensem atque Rodulfum Toennensem et Rogerium filium eiusdem” as custodians of “castrum Tegulense” (Tillières {Verneuil, Eure}), which he had built to protect against attack by Eudes [II] Comte de Blois[2854]. m ---. The name of Raoul's wife is not known.

Raoul [II] & his wife had [four] children:

1. ROGER [I] de Tosny [Conches] ([990]-killed in battle [17 Jun] [1040], bur Conches). Guillaume of Jumièges records that Duke Richard appointed “Nigellum Constantinensem atque Rodulfum Toennensem et Rogerium filium eiusdem” as custodians of “castrum Tegulense” (Tillières {Verneuil, Eure}), which he had built to protect against attack by Eudes [II] Comte de Blois[2855]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Rogerius Toenites de stirpe Malahulcii qui Rollonis ducis patruus fuerat” was “totius Normanniæ signifer“, that he travelled “in Hispaniam” when Duke Robert II went on pilgrimage to Jerusalem, returned after the accession of Duke Guillaume II but refused to serve him because of his ignoble birth, rebelled against him, destroyed property in particular that of “Humfridi de Vetulis” who eventually killed Roger [I] along with “duobus filiis suis Helberto et Elinantio”[2856]. The Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis names "Rotgerius filius Rodulfi comitis" when recording that he left Normandy for Spain[2857]. The Chronico S Petri Vivi Senonensi records that "Rotgerius filius Rodulfi comitis" left Normandy for Spain with an army in 1015[2858]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Rogerius de Toenio” founded “cœnobium Castellionis alias de Conchis”[2859]. Henry I King of England confirmed the foundation of Conches by "Rogerius senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulphus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius prædicti Radulphi senis et Rogerius filius Radulphi juvenis", quoting the foundation by "Rogerius filius Radulphi Toteniensis" for the soul of "coniugis meæ Godehildis", dated to [1130][2860]. "…Rogerii filii Radulfi…" witnessed the charter dated to [1030] under which Robert II Duke of Normandy donated "in comitatu Abrincatensi villam…Sancti Johannis" to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[2861]. He left Normandy for Spain in [1030/35], fought against the Moors, and lived there for 15 years with his Spanish wife[2862]. "…Rodgerii filii Rodulfi…Rogerii de Conchis" subscribed the charter dated to [1040] under which "Vuillelmus Ricardi magni ducis Normannorum filius" donated property to the abbey of Jumièges[2863]. The apparent duplication of these names is difficult to explain. "…Nigelli vicecomitis, Tursteni vicecomitis…Willelmi Arcacensis comitis, Godefridi vicecomitis, Rodgerii filii Rodulfi, Wimundi…" witnessed the charter dated to [1040] under which Guillaume Comte de Talou donated property to Jumièges[2864]. Henry II King of England confirmed the property of Conches abbey, including donations by "Rogeris senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulfus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius predicti Radulphi senex et Roger filius Radulphi juvenis", by charter dated 1165 or [1167/73][2865]. His death is dated to [17 Jun] because firstly Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Robertus de Grentesmaisnil” died in the same battle as “Rogerius [de Toenia]“[2866], and secondly the necrology of the monastery of Ouche records the death "17 Jun" of "Robertus de Grentemesnil"[2867]. His place of burial is confirmed by the charter dated to [1130] under which Henry I King of England confirmed the foundation of Conches by "Rogerius senior…", quoting the confirmation by "Radulphus de Totteneio cum Godehilde matre mea" for the burial of "patris mei Rogerii"[2868].

[m firstly (1018 or soon after) ADELAIDA [Papia] de Barcelona, daughter of RAMÓN BORELL I Conde de Barcelona & his wife Ermesinde de Carcassonne. The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that "Normanni duce Rotgerio", who had been fighting Saracens in Spain, asked "comitissa Barzelonensi Ermensende…vidua" for the hand of her daughter, but does not name the latter[2869]. It is not clear that "dux Rotgerius" is Roger de Conches, particularly as it seems surprising that Adémar would have accorded him the title "dux". It is assumed that this marriage proposal took place in 1018 or soon after: if it had taken place much later, there would have been little reason to have referred to the bride's mother as "vidua". In addition, the other events recorded by Adémar in the same paragraph, all relate to 1016/18. The Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis records that "Rotgerius filius Rodulfi comitis" married "sororem Raymundi-Berengarii Stephaniam" in Spain, specifying that she later married "rex Hispaniæ Garsias"[2870], but this account is even more confused and clearly conflates several different individuals. The Chronico S Petri Vivi Senonensi records the same marriage using the same wording[2871]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified.]

m [secondly] as her first husband, GODECHILDIS, daughter of ---. Henry I King of England confirmed the foundation of Conches by "Rogerius senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulphus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius prædicti Radulphi senis et Rogerius filius Radulphi juvenis", quoting the foundation by "Rogerius filius Radulphi Toteniensis" for the soul of "coniugis meæ Godehildis", dated to [1130][2872]. The Miracles of Sainte-Foy recount her being cured of a serious illness by miracle, when she was still married to her first husband[2873]. She married secondly Richard Comte d'Evreux. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Richardus Ebroicensis comes filius Roberti Archiepiscopi” married “uxore Rogerii de Toenia” by whom he had “Willelmum qui nunc Ebroicensibus principatur”[2874]. Henry I King of England confirmed the foundation of Conches by "Rogerius senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulphus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius prædicti Radulphi senis et Rogerius filius Radulphi juvenis", quoting the donation by "Godehildis comitissa Ebroicæ civitatis, quondam uxor Rogerii de Totteneio" with the consent of "seniore meo comite Richardo", dated to [1130][2875].

Roger [I] & his [first/second] wife had four children:

a) HELBERT (-killed in battle [1040]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Rogerius Toenites de stirpe Malahulcii qui Rollonis ducis patruus fuerat” rebelled against Duke Guillaume II and destroyed property, in particular that of “Humfridi de Vetulis” who eventually killed Roger [I] along with “duobus filiis suis Helberto et Elinantio”[2876]. b) HELINANT (-killed in battle [1040]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Rogerius Toenites de stirpe Malahulcii qui Rollonis ducis patruus fuerat” rebelled against Duke Guillaume II and destroyed property, in particular that of “Humfridi de Vetulis” who eventually killed Roger [I] along with “duobus filiis suis Helberto et Elinantio”[2877]. c) VUASO . “...Vuaso filius Rogerii Tothennensis...” subscribed the charter under which Guillaume Duke of Normandy donated the church of Arques to Saint-Wandrille, dated to [1035/55][2878]. d) ADELISE (-6 Oct


, bur Abbaye de Lyre). Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Willelmus...filius Osberni, propinquus ducis Willelmi” founded “duo monasteriain honorem...Mariæ unum apud Liram...alterum apud Cormelias”, adding that he buried “Adelinam filiam Rogerii de Toenio uxorem suam” at Lyre[2879]. "Willelmo filio Osberni et…Ælicia eius uxore filia Rogeri de Thoneio" founded the abbey of Lyre by charter dated 1046[2880]. Robert of Torigny's De Immutatione Ordinis Monachorum records that "Willermus filius Osberni Normanniæ dapifer et cognatus Willermi ducis…Aelizam uxorem suam filiam Rogeri de Toeneio" was buried in the monastery of Lyre[2881]. The necrology of Lyre monastery records the death "6 Oct" of "Adeliz uxor Willelmi hujus loci fundatoris"[2882]. The necrology of the monastery of Ouche records the death "6 Oct" of "mater Willelmi Britolii Adeliza"[2883]. m (before 1046) as his first wife, GUILLAUME FitzOsbern Seigneur de Breteuil, son of OSBERN de Crépon & his wife Emma d'Ivry (-killed in battle Cassel, Flanders 22 Feb 1071, bur Abbaye de Cormeilles).

Roger [I] & his [second] wife had two children:

e) RAOUL [III] de Tosny (-24 Mar[2884] [1102], bur Conches Saint-Pierre). “Radulphus de Tony cum Godehelde matre mea” donated property to Wotton Wawen Abbey, Warwickshire by undated charter[2885].

- see below.

f) ROBERT [III] de Tosny (-[1088], bur [Evesham Abbey]). Domesday Book records “Robert of Stafford” holding Denchworth in Wantage Hundred in Berkshire; “Robert de Tosny” holding Miswell in Tring Hundred and Barwythe in Danish Hundred in Hertfordshire; "Robert of Stafford" holding land in Oxfordshire; Stoneton in Northamptonshire [Warwickshire][2886]. The entries in Hertfordshire precede those which record the holdings of Raoul de Tosny in Hertfordshire, which suggests that they refer to the Robert Tosny/Stafford who was Raoul´s brother. Henry I King of England confirmed donations to Conches, including the donation of "ecclesiam de Octona" made by "Robertus de Stafort filius Rogerii de Totteneio" with the consent of "filio meo Nicholao", by charter dated to [1130][2887]. Robert´s connection with the Tosny family is confirmed by the undated charter under which “Robertus de Stafford” confirmed donations to Wotton Wawen Abbey, Warwickshire by “avus meus Robertus de Toenio et pater meus Nicolaus de Stafford”[2888]. No indication has been found of the identity of Robert [III]´s mother, but assuming that he was legitimate the chronology suggests that he must have been born from his father´s [second] marriage. Lord of Stafford. see- ENGLISH NOBILITY – STAFFORD.


Sources

  • [2853] Le Prévost, A. ´Pouillés du diocèse de Lisieux´, Mémoires de la Société des antiquaires de Normandie, 2e Série, 3ème Volume (1842-43), p. 9, footnote 5.
  • [2854] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber V, X, p. 253.
  • [2855] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber V, X, p. 253.
  • [2856] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, III, p. 268.
  • [2857] Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis, RHGF X, p. 223.
  • [2858] Clarii, Chronico Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensi 1015, MGH SS XXVI, p. 30.
  • [2859] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 12.
  • [2860] Gallia Christiana, XI, Instrumenta, V, col. 128.
  • [2861] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 9, p. 10.
  • [2862] CP XII/1, p. 756, article Tony, and Chavanon, J. (ed.) (1897) Adémar de Chabannes, Chronique (Paris), Book III, c. 55.
  • [2863] Jumièges, Tome I, XX, p. 63.
  • [2864] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 16, p. 17.
  • [2865] Actes Henri II, Tome I, CCCCXXIII, p. 550.
  • [2866] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, IV, p. 269.
  • [2867] RHGF XXIII, Ex Uticensis monasterii necrologio, p. 487.
  • [2868] Gallia Christiana, XI, Instrumenta, V, col. 128.
  • [2869] Adémar de Chabannes, Chronique, III, 55, p. 178.
  • [2870] Chronici Hugonis Floriacensis, RHGF X, p. 223.
  • [2871] Clarii, Chronico Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensi 1015, MGH SS XXVI, p. 31.
  • [2872] Gallia Christiana, XI, Instrumenta, V, col. 128.
  • [2873] Liber Miraculorum sancte Fidis, ed. A. Bouillet (Paris, 1897), pp. 144-5, quoted and trans. by Houts (2000), p. 214.
  • [2874] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, IV, p. 269.
  • [2875] Gallia Christiana, XI, Instrumenta, V, col. 128.
  • [2876] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, III, p. 268.
  • [2877] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, III, p. 268.
  • [2878] Saint-Wandrille, 17, p. 59.
  • [2879] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, XXII, p. 278.
  • [2880] Neustria Pia, p. 535.
  • [2881] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 198.
  • [2882] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario Lirensis monasterii, p. 474.
  • [2883] RHGF XXIII, Ex Uticensis monasterii necrologio, p. 489.
  • [2884] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. III, Book V, p. 129.
  • [2885] Dugdale Monasticon VI.2, Wotton Wawen Abbey, Warwickshire III, p. 995.
  • [2886] Domesday Translation, Berkshire, XLII, p. 154, Hertfordshire, XXI, p. 382, Oxfordshire, XXVII, pp. 433-4, Northamptonshire, XXVII, p. 609.
  • [2887] Gallia Christiana, XI, Instrumenta, V, col. 128, 131.

(the above is from Charles Cawley's Medieval Lands Database)


Ralph de Toeni, Hereditary Stardard-Bearer of Normandy, fought at Senlac. Was Governor, under William the Conqueor, of Stafford. Held 131 lordships in Staffordshire and other counties.

SOURCE: Copes of Wiltshire by J. C. Biddle-Cope 1881, in collection of PA Historical Society


Seigneur de Tosni et Conches Roger de Tosny joined with his father in the custody of the castle of Tillières in 1013/14.

James Bulkeley, La Hougue Bie de Hambie: a tradition of Jersey. Volume 2. London: Gilbert & Rivington, Whitaker & Company, 1837. (Google Books)

Notes to Vol. 1 pp. 195-202 "p. 75 (55.) The constable Gislebert Crispin' Based on Roman de Rou, which is interspersed throughout... summary:

  • Count Eudes of Chartres married Maud, the sister of Duke Richard II, and received in dowry the seigneuries of Dreux and other domains. When Maud died with no children, Richard tried to retake the city Dreux and castle of Tillières back from Eudes by force.
  • He "confided his defences" to Néel de Saint-Sauveur, to Ralph, and to this son Roger de Toesny and de Couches
  • Eudes of Chartres allied himself to Valeran de Meulan, Hugh Count of Maine, and a reinforcement of French troops
  • Néel commanded the center, defending the main road into the castle; Ralph the right wing, and Roger the left.
  • Three divisions of Eudes' troops: (1) the troops of Chartres and Blois led by Eudes, (2) those of France and Maine by Count Hugh of Maine, and (3) those of Meulan by Valeran.
  • Néel's column was attacked, but with the aid of Roger's and Ralphs' forces, the Normans routed the Counts of Chartres and Meulan, causing the Count of Maine to flee. When his horse died, he disguised himself as a peasant and was able to escape capture.

The castle of Tillières, as a gateway to Chartres and France, became "of couble consquence to [Duke] Robert," and he gave command of it to Gilbert Crispin, Lord of Bec-Crispin. Later, King Henry of France, along with a group of disaffected Norman barons, "advanced a powerful army on Dreux" to persuade Duke William to raze the fortress. Crispin, indignant, "increased the garrison of the castle" but "could not overcome the brave resistance of the beseiged, or the virtuous obstinacy of the faithful Gilbert Crispin," who had pledged to turn it over only to the Duke, which he died, and Duke William in turn delivered it to King Henry, who "enveloped it in flames." The castle was later ceded by Henry to William after the Battle of Veraville, who named Gilbert's second son, also named Gilbert, as constable in remembrance of his father's loyalty. This younger Gilbert followed Duke William to the Conquest.


RALPH (or RODULF) DE TOENI II, son and heir, was born probably before 970, for in 1013 or 1014 the Duke of Normandy, having founded the castle of Tilliéres, gave the custody of it to Ralph de Toeni and his son Roger, together with Neel, Vicomte of the Cotentin. Ralph was seigneur of Tosni and Conches. About 1015 he went to Apulia; and in the winter of 1015-16 he was at the siege of Salerno (a). The name and parentage of his wife are unknown, but it is possible that she belonged to a collateral branch of the ducal house; for according to Orderic, Ralph's son Roger descended from an alleged uncle of Rolf, the founder of Normandy (b). The date of Ralph's death is not known. [Complete Peerage XII/1:754-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(a) "Chron. Mon. Casinensis" (in one MS, only) in Mon. Germ. Hist., vol ix (vol vii Scriptorum), p. 652, note (a); F. Chalondon, La Domination normande en Italie, vol i, pp. 49, 52; cf. Douglas, op. cit. p. 30, note 127. He may be the "quidam Normannorum audacissimus, nomine Rodulfuls," who (according to Rodulf Glaber), having displeased Duke Richard, went to Rome to lay his cause before the Pope and was induced by him to got to Benevento to fight the Greeks; and after victorious campaigns returned to Normandy (Rec. des Hist. de France, vol x, pp. 25-26). According to the Sens Chron., Count Rodulf, whose son Roger fought in Spain (see p. 756, note "b" below), set out from Normandy for Jerusalem, but when he reached Apulia was asked by the local princeps to abandon his pilgrimage and stop to fight the Greeks, which he did ("Chron. S. Petri Vivi Senonensis," in Idem, p. 223). These writers may refer to Ralph de Toeni, but the identity cannot be proved.

   (b) . . . de Stirpe Malahulcii, qui Rollonis patruus fuerat (Will. de Jumieges, p. 157--interpoations by Orderic). An alternative reading is "de stirpe mala Hulcii" (Rec. des Hist. de France, vol xi, p. 38); whence he is called "Hulce" by the Vicomte du Motey, Origines de la Normandie, p. 55, note 4 and p. 173. Nothing is known of Rolf's alleged uncle under either name. If he really existed, the alleged descent might be through the unknown wife of the elder Ralph.


Ralph/Rodulf de Toeni; feudal Lord also of Conches; custodian with his son of Castle of Tillieres from 1013 to 1014; took part in Norman expedition to Southern Italy c1015. [Burke's Peerage]

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Raoul II de Toeni, seigneur de Tosny's Timeline

955
955
Tosny, Haute-Normandie, France
970
970
Age 15
Conches, Seine-Et-Marne, Normandy, France
989
989
Age 34
990
990
Age 35
Conches-en-Ouches, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France
1000
1000
Age 45
Tosni, Louviers, Normandie, Eure, France
1004
1004
Age 49
Normandy,France
1015
1015
Age 60
Guerny, Eure, Normandy, France
1015
Age 60
France
1959
November 7, 1959
Age 60
November 25, 1959
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