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Nicknames: "Ralph de Conches de Toeni", "III; Raoul de Tosni", "de Conches"
Birthplace: Flamstead or Dacorum District, Hertfordshire, England
Death: Died in Conches-en-Ouches, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France
Occupation: Lord of Flamstead, aka "de Conches", Seigneur de Conches
Managed by: Erica Isabel Howton, (c)
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About Raoul de Tosny / Toeni, Seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead

Raoul (Ralph) III de Tosny / Toeni / Toni, Seigneur de Conches, Lord of Flamstead (d. 24 March 1102)

son of Roger "de Conches" de Tosny and his second wife, Godechilde

married Isabelle de Montfort (dau of Simon)

children: Roger II, Raoul IV and Godechilde (see below)

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RAOUL [III] de Tosny, son of ROGER [I] de Conches & his [second] wife Godechildis --- (-24 Mar[1841] [1102], bur Conches Saint-Pierre1841). “Radulphus de Tony cum Godehelde matre mea” donated property to Wotton Wawen Abbey, Warwickshire by undated charter[1842]. According to Orderic Vitalis, he was "a man of the highest renown and knightly valour and was outstanding among the greatest nobles of Normandy for his wealth and honours"[1843]. Orderic Vitalis records that he was ambassador from Guillaume II Duke of Normandy to Henri I King of France in 1054, when he reported the duke's defeat of the king's supporters "across the Seine"[1844]. Orderic also records that he "carried away by night" his uterine half-sister Agnes d'Evreux and gave her in marriage to Simon de Montfort, receiving in return Simon's daughter Isabel as his wife[1845]. Odo Bishop of Bayeux bought "la terre de Chernet" from "Herberto de Agnellis", with the consent of "suo domino Radulfo de Conchis", by charter dated 30 Nov 1074[1846]. "Ralf de Conchis son of Roger de Toncio" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Evroul by charter dated to [1080], witnessed by "Rogerus de Clara, Galterus de Hispannia, Guillelmus de Paceio, Robertus de Remileio, Geroldus Gastinellus, Gillebertus Toroldi filius, Rogerus de Mucegros, et Galterus de Calvo Monte"[1847]. "Rodulfo de Conchis" consented to the donation of "decimam Ansfredi Villæ" to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen by "Gernagois et Albereda uxor eius, cum filiis suis Willelmo et Rotberto" by charter dated 1091[1848]. Henry II King of England confirmed the property of Conches abbey, including donations by "Rogeris senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulfus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius predicti Radulphi senex et Roger filius Radulphi juvenis", by charter dated 1165 or [1167/73][1849].

m ISABELLE de Montfort, daughter of SIMON de Montfort Seigneur de Montfort-l'Amaury & his first wife Isabelle de Broyes . Dame de Nogent-le-Roi. Orderic Vitalis calls her "Isabel de Conches", says she was "generous, daring and gay" but "in war she rode armed as a knight among the knights", and recounts that Helvise Ctss d'Evreux was offended by her "slighting remarks" which led to a bitter war between their husbands[1850]. After her husband died, she repented "the mortal sin of luxury in which she had indulged in her youth" and became a nun at Haute-Bruyère[1851].

Raoul [III] & his wife had three children:

1. ROGER [II] de Tosny (-15 May[1852] [1093/95]). He was appointed heir by his cousin Guillaume de Breteuil and his uncle Guillaume Comte d'Evreux, as part of the arrangements for ending the [1090/90] war between his father and Guillaume Comte d'Evreux which had been triggered by the enmity between their wives[1853].

2. RAOUL [IV] de Tosny (-[1126][1854], bur Conches Saint-Pierre1841). Henry II King of England confirmed the property of Conches abbey, including donations by "Rogeris senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulfus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius predicti Radulphi senex et Roger filius Radulphi juvenis", by charter dated 1165 or [1167/73][1855]. He succeeded his father in [1102] as Seigneur de Tosny. m (1103) ADELISA of Huntingdon, daughter of WALTHEOF Earl of Huntingdon & his wife Judith de Lens [Boulogne] ([1073/76]-after [1126]). Her parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis, who also gives her marriage and names her two sons and indicates she had "several daughters" without naming them[1856]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that Judith daughter of Waltheof & his wife married "Raoul de Ternois"[1857]. Ingulph's Chronicle of the Abbey of Croyland records the marriage of Alice younger daughter of Judith and "Rodolph de Tournay", her dowry being "the lordship of Wilchamstowe"[1858]. She inherited Walthamstow, Essex.....

3. GODECHILDE de Tosny (-Germanicea, Cilicia Oct 1097[1868]). Her parentage is specified by Orderic Vitalis, who also records her two marriages[1869]. According to the Complete Peerage[1870], her first marriage is "highly improbable" as Godechilde was still a young girl when she married Baudouin de Boulogne in 1096, although it cannot be dismissed entirely as infant marriages were by no means unknown at the time. Orderic Vitalis makes no mention of any annulment of her alleged first marriage: it is possible that it went no further than a contract of betrothal. She left with her husband on crusade in 1096 as William of Tyre and Albert of Aix record the death of "Gutueram" wife of Baudouin Count of Edessa at Maresia, and her burial there, Albert of Aix specifying that the couple had been married in England[1871]. [m firstly as his first wife, ROBERT de Beaumont Comte de Meulan, Seigneur de Beaumont-le-Roger, son of ROGER de Vieilles Seigneur de Beaumont-le-Roger & his wife Adeline de Meulan ([1046]-5 or 6 Jun 1118, bur Préaux, monastery of Saint-Pierre).] m [secondly] ([1090/1096]) as his second wife, BAUDOUIN de Boulogne, son of EUSTACHE II Comte de Boulogne & his second wife Ida of Lower Lotharingia (-Al-Arish 2 Apr 1118, bur Jerusalem, Church of the Holy Sepulchre). He was chosen in 1100 to succeeded as BAUDOUIN I King of Jerusalem.


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Raoul II of Tosny

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Raoul II de Tosny[1] seigneur de Conches-en-Ouche[2] (d.1102) was a Norman nobleman of the house of Tosny, son of Roger I of Tosny. He was active in Normandy, England and Wales.

Victor at Hastings in 1066

He fought at the Battle of Hastings[3]. Tradition says he gave up the role of standard bearer, his hereditary office, to Walter Giffard, in order to be able to fight closer to William, duke of Normandy.[4]

[edit]Marriage

He married Isabel de Montfort, daughter of Simon I de Montfort. There was a feud with Guillaume d'Evreux and his wife Helvise de Nevers, recorded by Ordericus Vitalis.[5] This came to open war in 1091-2, when Guillaume attacked Conches. A settlement was reached.[6] They later co-operated in attacking Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester's county of Meulan.

[edit]In England

He had widely spread holdings, as recorded in the Domesday Survey. His seat was at Flamstead in Hertfordshire.[7] He held Clifford Castle.It is also believed that he held assets in the village of Hose, Leicestershire which was split into two manors, Tosny's and that of the title holder of the Norman Belvoir Castle.

[edit]Family

Robert de Stafford was his brother.

His second son, Raoul III de Conches, was his surviving heir. He married Alice of Huntingdon, daughter of Waltheof, Earl of Northumbria and Judith of Lens.[8]

His daughter Godehilde married Baldwin I of Jerusalem.

[edit]Notes

^ Ralph Tosny, Ralph de Toeni, Ralph de Tonei, Ralph de Tony, Ralph de Toni, Ralph de Todeni, Ralph de Tosney, Raoul de Conches, Raoul de Toeny, Raf Thoney, Rafe de Tosny.

^ Conches-en-Ouche

^ [1], [2]

^ [3], PDF, in French, p.80.

^ Jerusalem

^ Frank Barlow, William Rufus (1983) p.286.

^ The Domesday Book Online - Landowners S-T

^ My Lines - Person Page 107

[edit]References

Remfry, P.M., Clifford Castle, 1066 to 1299 (ISBN 1-899376-04-6)

Ralph de Tosny of Flamstead1

b. between 1025 and 1030, d. 24 March 1101/2

Father seigneur de Tosni et Conches Roger de Tosny I2 b. circa 990, d. 1038/39

Mother Godeheut (?)3

    Also called Ralph III de Conches.3 Also called Ralph de Tosny III.3 Ralph de Tosny of Flamstead was born between 1025 and 1030 at Tosny, Eure, Normandy, France. The older brother.2,4 He was the son of seigneur de Tosni et Conches Roger de Tosny I and Godeheut (?).2,3 Ralph de Tosny of Flamstead was banner-bearer of the Normans.3 He was at the Duke's court in 1050.3 He took part in William's victory over the French at Mortemer and was sent by the Duke to alarm the King of France with the news in 1054.3 He married Isabel de Montfort-l'Amaury, dame de Nogent, daughter of Simon I, seigneur de Montfort and Isabeau de Broyes, dame de Nogent.5,6,7 Ralph de Tosny of Flamstead was a witness where Simon I, seigneur de Montfort took a leading part in persuading Duke William to recall Ralph de Tosny and Hugh de Grandmesnil from exile in 1063.8 Ralph de Tosny of Flamstead was recalled from exile by the efforts of Simon, 2nd Seigneur de Montfort, in 1063. He took part in the invasion of England and fought at the Battle of Hastings, but not the banner-bearer as that honor went to Turstin FitzRou, on 14 October 1066.3 He had holdings in seven southern, East Anglian and Home counties in 1086 at England.2 Lord of Clifford Castle at Hertfordshire, England, in 1086.2 He died on 24 March 1101/2.9 Ralph de Tosny of Flamstead was buried in Conches.9

Family

Isabel de Montfort-l'Amaury, dame de Nogent b. circa 1055?

Children

Roger de Tosny II b. c 1074?, d. c 15 May 10919

Radulf II de Tosny+ b. c 1078, d. c 112610

Citations

[S1278] K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants, pg. 740.

[S643] E.Domesday, online http://www.domesdaybook.co.uk/book.html

[S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, XII/1:Tony:757.

[S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, XII/1:Tony:757, 1025-30.

[S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, VII:App.D:711.

[S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, XII/1:Tony:759.

[S1278] K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants, pg. 596.

[S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, VII:App.D:710.

[S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, XII/1:Tony:760.

[S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, XII/1:Tony:760/1.

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married Isabel de Montfort

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Ralph was also called Ralph III de Conches.

Ralph de Tosny of Flamstead was banner-bearer of the Normans. He was at the Duke's court in 1050. He took part in William's victory over the French at Mortemer and was sent by the Duke to alarm the King of France with the news in 1054.

Ralph was recalled from exile by the efforts of Simon, 2nd Seigneur de Montfort, in 1063.

Ralph took part in the invasion of England and fought at the Battle of Hastings, but he was not the banner-bearer (that honor went to Turstin FitzRou), on 14 October 1066.

Ralph had holdings in seven southern, East Anglian, and home counties after 1086. He was Lord of Clifford Castle in Hertfordshire in 1086.

He was buried in Conches.

See "My Lines"

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p356.htm#i18676 )

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm ) -------------------- He fought at the Battle of Hastings. Tradition says he gave up the role of standard bearer, his hereditary office, to Walter Giffard, in order to be able to fight closer to William, Duke of Normandy.

He married Isabel de Montfort, daughter of Simon I de Montfort. There was a feud with Guillaume d'Evreux and his wife Helvise de Nevers, recorded by Ordericus Vitalis. This came to open war in 1091-2, when Guillaume attacked Conches. A settlement was reached. They later co-operated in attacking Robert de Beaumont, 1st Earl of Leicester's county of Meulan.

He had widely spread holdings, as recorded in the Domesday Survey. His seat was at Flamstead in Hertfordshire. He held Clifford Castle.

Robert de Stafford was his brother. His second son, Raoul IV de Conches, was his surviving heir. He married Alice of Huntingdon, daughter of Waltheof, Earl of Northumbria and Judith of Lens.

His daughter Godehilde married Baldwin I of Jerusalem. 24 -------------------- Note:

   Also Known As:<_AKA> Ralph de /Conches/
   He was banner-bearer of the Normans, and in 1050 was atthe Duke's court.In 1054 he participated in the victory over the French at Mortemer, andwas sent by William to alarm the King of France with the news. About1060he, Hugh de Grandmesnil and Ernald d'Echauffour were deprived of theirinheritances and banished. In revenge he and Ernald burned the town ofSt. Evroul, but in 1063 they were recalled and their lands restored. Hewas summoned to acouncil upon the death of Edward the Confessor and thecoronation of Harold asKing of England, and he fought at the Battle ofHastings.
   He established his residence at Flamsted, Hertfordshire, but was givenestates in many counties.About 1078 he supported Robert Curthose againstthe King, and in 1080 he went on pilgrimage to Spain, returning to givegifts to the abbey of St. Evroul. In 1081 he was with the King atWinchester; after William's death in 1087 he was oneof the Norman nobleswho expelled royal garrisons from their castles. In 1088 he served in thewar against Maine. When his wife angered her sister-in-law, the Count ofEvreux laid seige against Conches; this was broken with the help ofadherents of William Rufus. After the death of Rufus he and the Count ofEvreuxinvaded the Count of Meulan's barony of Beaumont in August 1100, inretaliation for intrigues with the king against them. (Marlyn Lewis and"Complete Peerage" by Cokayne; Carl Boyer at cboyer@sosinet.net)
   Ralph [de Toeni], usually called Ralph de Conches; participated in Normaninvasion of England 1066; being accordingly granted lands in Berks,Essex, Glos, Herefs, Herts, Norfolk, and Worcs; married Elizabeth/Isabel,daughter of Simon de Montfort, Seigneur of Montfort l'Amaury, and died 24March, probably 1101/2. [Burke's Peerage]
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   RALPH DE TOENI III, styled more usually DECONCHES, son and heir, byGodeheut, was born probably about 1025-30. He wasbanner-bearer of theNormans. In 1050 he was at the Duke's Court. In 1054 he took part inWilliam's victory over the French at Mortemer and was sent by the Duke toalarm the King of France with the news. About 1060 Ralph, Hugh deGrandmesnil and Ernald d'Echauffour were deprived of their inheritance bythe Duke and banished. In revenge Ernald and Ralph made incursions intoNormandy and burnt the town of St. Evroul; but in 1063 they were recalledand their lands were restored. Ralph was one of the nobles summoned to acouncil when the Duke heard of the death of Edward the Confessor and thecoronation of Harold; and he took part in the invasion of England andfought at the Battle of Hastings. At some time between the battle and theDomesday survey in 1086 the Conqueror gave him estates in the counties ofBerks, Essex, Gloucester, Hereford, Herts, Norfolk andWorcester, with thecastle of Clifford, co. Hereford, which had been built on waste land byWilliam FitzOsbern, 1st Earl of Hereford; but his caput baroniae was atFlamstead, Herts. Before 30 November 1074 he assented to the Bishop ofBayeux's purchase of land from his tenant Herbert de Agnellis. About 1078he supportedRobert Courtheuse against the King. Probably about 1080 hewent on a pilgrimage to Spain; and on his safe return, as he hadpromised, he made gifts to the abbey of St. Evroul, in recompense forhaving helped Ernald d'Echauffour to burn the town. In 1081 he was withthe King at Winchester. After William's death in 1087 he was one of theNorman nobles who expelled the royal garrisons from theircastles. In 1088he served under Duke Robert in the war against Maine.
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Raoul III de Tosny, seigneur de Conches's Timeline

1029
1029
Flamstead or Dacorum District, Hertfordshire, England
1077
1077
Age 48
Tosny, France
1079
1079
Age 50
Flamstead, Herefordshire, England
1081
1081
Age 52
Tosny, France
1086
1086
Age 57
Tosni, , France
1102
1102
Age 73
Conches-en-Ouches, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France
1102
Age 73
Conches-en-Ouches, Eure, Haute Normandie, France
1934
October 17, 1934
Age 73
October 17, 1934
Age 73
October 17, 1934
Age 73