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Raymund Ponce de Tolosa, comte de Tolosa

Nicknames: "Count De Toulouse", "Raimond /Pons/ III", "Raymond III", "Count of Toulouse"
Birthdate:
Death: Died
Place of Burial: Saint-Pons-de-Thomières, Languedoc-Roussillon, France
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Son of Raymond II, comte de Toulouse and Guidinilde, comtesse consort de Toulouse
Husband of Garsinde Countess de Toulouse and Garsinde de Gascogne
Father of William (Guillaume) III Taillefer; Raymond III, comte de Toulouse and N.N.

Occupation: Comte de Toulouse & Albi, Marquis de Gothie, Duke of Aquitaine, Comte d'Auvergne, Count of Rouergue, Greve, Count of Toulosue, Comte, de Toulouse, Comte de Rouergue, Duc, d'Aquitaine, de Rouergue, Marquis, de Septimanie, Sieur, de Quercy, d'Albigeois
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About Raymund Ponce de Tolosa, comte de Tolosa

from Foundation for Medieval Genealogy:

RAYMOND de Toulouse, son of RAYMOND II Comte de Toulouse & his wife [Guinidilda] [de Barcelona] ([900/10]-[944/69], bur Saint-Pons-de-Thomières).

His parentage is confirmed by the charter under which "Pontius…comes Tolosanus, primarchio et dux Aquitanorum et uxor mea Garsindis" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Pons de Thomières, for the souls of "genitore nostro Raimundo et genetrice mea"[243].

He succeeded his father in [923/24] as RAYMOND PONS Comte de Toulouse. [Agio Archbishop of Narbonne wrote to "Agamberto necnon et Elefonso episcopus" by undated charter which names "comites nostros Ermingaudum et Raimundum"[244]. This charter is dated to 922 in the 3rd edition of the Histoire Générale de Languedoc. However, the fact that Ermengaud is given precedence over Raymond in the document suggests that the latter must have been Raymond Pons Comte de Toulouse, nephew of the former, rather than his older brother Comte Raymond II. If that is correct, the document would be dateable to after [924]. Archbishop Agio died in [926/27][245], which if correct would be place the document in [924/27].]

"Oddo…vicecomes…cum uxore mea…Richelde" donated property inherited from "mei genitoris…Franconis et meæ genitricis…Ersindis", with the consent of "domni Agonis archiepiscopi et Poncii comitis" and for the soul of "senioris mei Poncii comitis", by charter dated 17 Dec 924, signed by "Poncii comitis et marchionis…"[246]. The subscription suggests that Raymond Pons had also adopted the title Marquis de Gothie [Septimanie]. It is not known whether the marquisate passed to the family of the comtes de Toulouse immediately after the death of Guillaume I "le Pieux" Duke of Aquitaine, Marquis de Gothie, whose death is dated to 918. Flodoard records that "Ragemundus et Ermingaudus, principes Gothiæ" swore allegiance to Raoul King of France in 932[247]. "Frotardus vicecomes Caturcorum civitatis…et coniux mea Adalberga" donated property "in comitatu Caturcino in vicaria Casliacense in villa…Mercurio" to "monasterium…Belluslocus", with the advice of "Raimundo comiti senioris nostri", for the soul of "Odolrici patris mei" and for the salvation of "Beledrudi genitricis meæ", by charter dated Mar 932[248].

King Raoul appointed him Duke of Aquitaine[249], Comte d'Auvergne and with the territory of the marquisate of Gothia. He was also the suzerain lord of the counties of Carcassonne, Albi, Rouergue and Quercy. He is recorded as "princeps Aquitanorum Raymundus…" in the foundation charter of Chanteuge abbey dated 28 Aug 936, which was signed by "Raymundi ducis Aquitanorum cui aliud…nomen est Pontii…"[250], indicating that he challenged the authority of Guillaume III “Tête d’Etoupes” Duke of Aquitaine.

"Pontius…comes Tolosanus, primarchio et dux Aquitanorum et uxor mea Garsindis" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Pons de Thomières, for the souls of "genitore nostro Raimundo et genetrice mea", by charter dated Nov 936[251]. "Poncio comes et marchio" donated property to the church of Béziers by charter dated 17 Jan 937, signed by "Garsindis, Jonus vicecomes…Ato vicecomes"[252]. "Raimundus qui et Pontius, primarchio et dux Aquitanorum et uxor mea Garsindis" dedicated the church of Saint-Pons de Thomières by charter dated 937[253]. "…Domni Pontii ducis Aquitanorum et comitis Tolosani, Guarsindis uxoris eius, Hugonis comitis, Arnaudi vicecomitis, Sicardi vicecomitis, Atonis, Pontii" signed the charter dated Aug 940 under which Aimery Archbishop of Narbonne and Rodoald Bishop of Béziers donated property to Saint-Pons de Thomières[254].

Richer records that Hugues Duc des Francs received "Raymond duc des Goths" in the town of Nevers after entering Aquitaine in (944), and reinstalled him and other Aquitainian leaders in their positions[255].

Flodoard records that in 944 King Louis and his wife Queen Gerberga entered Aquitaine and returned to France with "Regimundo, Gothorum principe, ceterisque proceribus Aquitanorum"[256]. A charter dated 969, which records an agreement between Aimery Archbishop of Narbonne and the monastery of Saint-Pons de Thomières, refers to the advice of "Gersindæ comitissæ et Adalais vicecomitissæ" and "quondam Poncius comes"[257].

"Guillelmus Tolosaniensium…comes et dux" names "proavo…meo Pontio Aquitanorum duce" in a charter dated 1080 and "Raymundus Ruthenensis…comes" names "proavo…meo Pontio Aquitanorum mango duce" in a charter dated 1085 (see below), although, as Settipani points out[258], "proavus" must be interpreted as "ancestor" in general rather than great-grandfather for consistency with the other sources cited below.

m GERSENDE de Gascogne, daughter of GARCIA Sanchez "le Tors/el Curvo" Comte de Gascogne & his wife Amuna --- (-after 972). "Pontius…comes Tolosanus, primarchio et dux Aquitanorum et uxor mea Garsindis" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Pons de Thomières, for the souls of "genitore nostro Raimundo et genetrice mea", by charter dated Nov 936[259]. Her parentage is ascertained as follows. The Codex de Roda names "Sanzio Garsias et Arnaldo Garsies ac Gilelmo Garsies, ac domna Andregoto, seu domna Acibella, seu et ---" as the children of "Garsea Sanzoz" and his unnamed wife[260]. Another passage in the Codex de Roda records that "Pontio" married "filia Garsie Sanzionis" by whom he was father of "Regimundus"[261]. This could refer to any of the three daughters referred to in the former passage. The name of the wife of Raymond Pons Comte de Toulouse is confirmed by her undated codicil testament (see below). Settipani discusses hypotheses suggesting that the two sources do not in fact refer to the same wife of Raymond Pons, who in this scenario would have married twice, firstly to a daughter of Garcia de Gascogne and secondly to Gersende[262]. He suggests that Raymond Pons's first wife was Garcia's daughter who is named Andregoto in the Codex de Roda (the widow of Raymond Comte de Bordeaux), and that his second wife Gersende was the daughter of Ermengaud Comte de Rouergue. The Rouergue origin is proposed to explain why most of the property referred to in Gersende's codicil testament was located in Rouergue and Albigeois, although it is recognised that if this origin is correct the spouses would have been first cousins (insufficient information has yet been identified on which to base a conclusion concerning the acceptability to the church of first cousin marriages at that time). The hypothesis represents an interesting speculation. However, it is not felt that there is a sufficiently strong basis to justify showing these two marriages as a likely possibility, even in square brackets, in this document. In addition, the Codex de Roda indicates that the daughter of Comte Garcia Sanchez was the mother of Comte Raymond III, while the testament of "Gersindæ comitissæ" suggests that she was the grandmother of Comte Raymond IV who, it is suggested, was the son of Comte Raymond III, indicating that Gersende must have been the same person as the daughter of the Gascon count. "Poncio comes et marchio" donated property to the church of Béziers by charter dated 17 Jan 937, signed by "Garsindis, Jonus vicecomes…Ato vicecomes"[263]. "Raimundus qui et Pontius, primarchio et dux Aquitanorum et uxor mea Garsindis" dedicated the church of Saint-Pons de Thomières by charter dated 937[264]. "…Domni Pontii ducis Aquitanorum et comitis Tolosani, Guarsindis uxoris eius, Hugonis comitis, Arnaudi vicecomitis, Sicardi vicecomitis, Atonis, Pontii" signed the charter dated Aug 940 under which Aimery Archbishop of Narbonne and Rodoald Bishop of Béziers donated property to Saint-Pons de Thomières[265]. A charter dated 969, which records an agreement between Aimery Archbishop of Narbonne and the monastery of Saint-Pons de Thomières, refers to the advice of "Gersindæ comitissæ et Adalais vicecomitissæ" and "quondam Poncius comes"[266]. A charter dated 972 records donations to the church of Saint-Michel de Gaillac, confirmed by "Regimundus comes", subscribed by "Gersindis comitissæ"[267]. "Domina Garcendis comitissa quæ fui uxor domni Pontii comitis" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Pons de Thomières, for the soul of "dicti mariti mei Pontii comitis", by charter dated Jul [972], which reserves property which "Adalaydis et filius eius Ermengaudus et Raymundus" held in "castrum de Cenceno" for their lives[268]. The testament of "Gersindæ comitissæ", dated to [972], bequeathed property for life to the following beneficiaries (few of whom can be identified): "ecclesiam…Sancti Symphoriani cum alode…Cabannes excepto Dauker" to "Ugoni comiti nepoti meo" [Hugues Comte de Quercy?]; "alodem meum…Cencinnonem" to "Adalais vicecomitissæ et filiis eius Ermengaudo et Regimundo" [Adelais, widow of Matfred Vicomte de Narbonne]; "ecclesiam…Sanctum Martialum de Greza" to "Aimerico" and after his death to "Regimundo filio eius"; "villam…Gerbuxam" to "Mironi filio Amelii" and after his death to "fratri ipsius…Matfredi"; "villam meam…Brutia" to "Amelio nepoti meo" [see below]; "alodem meum…Vilarem" to "Froterio"; "alodum meum…Cantullum" to "Adraldo filio"; "alodum meum…Cantullum" to "Bernardo vicecomiti"; "castellarum…Becus…excepto convenientia Grimaldi…Bernardo filio ipsius Grimaldi" to the church of Saint-Vincent; "ecclesiam meam de Vinarcha" to "Bernardo et Dagberto filiis Dagberti"; "mansum quam tenuit Robertus" to "Regimundo filio Bernardi"; "fevum quam tenuit Rostagnus de Veharca" to "Aimardo et Bernardo filiis Bernardi"; "alium fevum quem tenuit Pontius" to "Raymundo filio Bernardi et alio Raymundo et Attoni"; "ecclesiam meam de Bar" to "Isarnus vicecomes"; "alios mansos" to "Aicfredo et fratri eius Matfredo, filiis Unigerii"; "Cotnag et Vallelias" to "Raymundo filio Gundinildis nepoti meo" [Raymond IV Comte de Toulouse?]; "mansum ubi Godalbertus visus est manere" to "Sicfredo" and after his death to "filio suo Rainardo"; "Campumalbum et Bragos" to "Barnardo filio Regimundo"; "mansum de Genestoso" to "Adalrico filio Pontii"; "alodem quem dedit mihi Regimundus, ecclesiam de Becia" to "Alanberganæ"; "alodum de Fraxino…medietatem" to "Arnaldo filio Bernardi"; "ecclesiam de Muscle…Sanctum Stephanum" to "Sanctioni filio Foramundi", "alium alodem" half to "Olibano" and half to "ipsi Sanctioni"; "mansum ubi mansit Andreas de Miliares" to "Gauzeleno et filio eius Umberti"[269].

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Comte de Toulouse.

Raymond Pons, Count of Toulouse

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Raymond (III) Pons (I)[1] (died after 944) was the Count of Toulouse from 924. He was the last head of his house to rule in Toulouse before the power passed to his cousins the counts of Rouergue.

In 932, he did homage to Rudolph of France and was created Duke of Aquitaine,[2] Count of Auvergne, and Margrave of Gothia,[3] even though William Towhead claimed the ducal title as well.

In 936, he founded the monastery of Chanteuges. Between 940 and 941, he controlled Auvergne. In 944, when Hugh the Great and King Louis IV entered Aquitaine, the former met Raymond at Nevers and confirmed his titles while the Toulousain returned with the king to the royal court.

He married a daughter of García II of Gascony, who was either the same person as his wife Gersenda or a distinct earlier wife, and was succeeded by his son Raymond III (or IV).

Notes

  1. ^ Regimundus Pontio
  2. ^ Aquitanorum dux
  3. ^ Variously referred to as duke or prince: Gothorum princeps.

Sources

   * Lewis, Archibald R. The Development of Southern French and Catalan Society, 718–1050. University of Texas Press: Austin, 1965.
   * Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: Toulouse.

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came between Raymond II (his father) and Raymond III (his son)

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Raymond II (also Ramon or Raimundo and sometimes numbered Raymond I) (died 961 or 965) was the count of Rouergue and Quercy from 937 to his death. Under Raymond, Rouergue achieved a suzerainty over neighbouring counties and he successfully titled himself Margrave (marchio) of Septimania.

Raymond's lordship extended over Albi and Nîmes and, at least around 960, as far north as the Limousin. Raymond was the head of his family, which also ruled Toulouse. Even in his time, his family appeared to be declining. He willed a Gascon fief to Duke Sancho V and allowed it to become allodial after his death. Nonetheless, his power was such that he could command lands as far north as Auvergne and was the most powerful lord of Aquitaine, even holding a "vicar's court" in the Limousin.

His will of 961 is presereved. In it, not only does he reference the aforementioned lands in Auvergne and Gascony, but he mentions seventeen castles and a rocheta. Some castles were given to his wife and heirs and some to the churches of Albi and Cahors and to various abbeys.

Raymond married Bertha, daughter of Boso of Tuscany. He was succeeded by his son Raymond III.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_II_of_Rouergue

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Raimond III Pons, Comte de Toulouse (1)

M, #3976, d. circa 960

Last Edited=11 Jul 2005

Raimond III Pons, Comte de Toulouse was the son of Raimond II, Comte de Toulouse. (1)

He died circa 960.

Raimond III Pons, Comte de Toulouse succeeded to the title of Comte de Toulouse in 924. (1)

Child of Raimond III Pons, Comte de Toulouse and Gersende (?)

-1. Guillaume III Taillefer, Comte de Provence+ b. c 947, d. Sep 1037

Forrás / Source:

http://www.thepeerage.com/p398.htm#i3976

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http://www.thepeerage.com/p398.htm#i3976

Raimond III Pons, Comte de Toulouse1

M, #3976, d. circa 960

Last Edited=11 Jul 2005

    Raimond III Pons, Comte de Toulouse was the son of Raimond II, Comte de Toulouse.1 He died circa 960.
    Raimond III Pons, Comte de Toulouse succeeded to the title of Comte de Toulouse in 924.1

Child of Raimond III Pons, Comte de Toulouse and Gersende (?)

Guillaume III Taillefer, Comte de Provence+ b. c 947, d. Sep 1037

Citations

[S38] John Morby, Dynasties of the World: a chronological and genealogical handbook (Oxford, Oxfordshire, U.K.: Oxford University Press, 1989), page 88. Hereinafter cited as Dynasties of the World.

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Birth date unknown, but estimated at around 900

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Pons_of_Toulouse

and in French: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_III_de_Toulouse

Raymond (III) Pons (I)[1] (died after 944) was the Count of Toulouse from 924. He was the last head of his house to rule in Toulouse before the power passed to his cousins the counts of Rouergue.

In 932, he did homage to Rudolph of France and was created Duke of Aquitaine,[2] Count of Auvergne, and Margrave of Gothia,[3] even though William Towhead claimed the ducal title as well.

In 936, he founded the monastery of Chanteuges. Between 940 and 941, he controlled Auvergne. In 944, when Hugh the Great and King Louis IV entered Aquitaine, the former met Raymond at Nevers and confirmed his titles while the Toulousain returned with the king to the royal court.

He married a daughter of García II of Gascony, who was either the same person as his wife Gersenda or a distinct earlier wife, and was succeeded by his son Raymond III (or IV).

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Raymond III (died 978) was the Count of Toulouse, Nîmes, and Albi. He was the son of Raymond Pons and Garsenda, daughter of García II of Gascony.

In 950, on the death of his father, he inherited the titles of Toulouse, Nîmes, and Albi, as well as that of Prince of Gothia. He was young at the time of his succession and fell under the regency of his mother. His cousin Raymond II of Rouergue became the head of the family and increased his branch's power over the Toulousain line. He had a younger son, Bertrand.

In 975, Raymond III ceded Albi to his son Pons Raymond. Just three years later he was assassinated, leaving his titles, save Albi, to his eldest son William III. His wife had been Adelaide, daughter of Fulk II of Anjou. Raymond III and Adelaide had the following children:

Raymond (IV or V)

Hugues (Hugh)

Letgarda, who married Borrel II of Barcelona.

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Raymond III (died 978) was the Count of Toulouse, Nîmes, and Albi. He was the son of Raymond Pons and Garsenda, daughter of García II of Gascony.

In 950, on the death of his father, he inherited the titles of Toulouse, Nîmes, and Albi, as well as that of Prince of Gothia. He was young at the time of his succession and fell under the regency of his mother. His cousin Raymond II of Rouergue became the head of the family and increased his branch's power over the Toulousain line. He had a younger son, Bertrand.

In 975, Raymond III ceded Albi to his son Pons Raymond. Just three years later he was assassinated, leaving his titles, save Albi, to his eldest son William III. His wife had been Adelaide, daughter of Fulk II of Anjou. Raymond III and Adelaide had the following children:

Raymond (IV or V)

Hugues (Hugh)

Letgarda, who married Borrel II of Barcelona. -------------------- Raymond III, Count of Toulouse

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Raymond III (died 978) was the Count of Toulouse, Nîmes, and Albi. He was the son of Raymond Pons and Garsenda, daughter of García II of Gascony.

In 950, on the death of his father, he inherited the titles of Toulouse, Nîmes, and Albi, as well as that of Prince of Gothia. He was young at the time of his succession and fell under the regency of his mother. His cousin Raymond II of Rouergue became the head of the family and increased his branch's power over the Toulousain line. He had a younger son, Bertrand.

In 975, Raymond III ceded Albi to his son Pons Raymond. Just three years later he was assassinated, leaving his titles, save Albi, to his eldest son William III. His wife had been Adelaide, daughter of Fulk II of Anjou. Raymond III and Adelaide had the following children:

Raymond (IV or V)

Hugues (Hugh)

Letgarda, who married Borrel II of Barcelona.

[edit]Sources

Lewis, Archibald R. The Development of Southern French and Catalan Society, 718–1050. University of Texas Press: Austin, 1965.

Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: Toulouse.

-------------------- Raymond Pons, Count of Toulouse

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Raymond (III) Pons (I)[1] (died after 944) was the Count of Toulouse from 924. He was the last head of his house to rule in Toulouse before the power passed to his cousins the counts of Rouergue.

In 932, he did homage to Rudolph of France and was created Duke of Aquitaine,[2] Count of Auvergne, and Margrave of Gothia,[3] even though William Towhead claimed the ducal title as well.

In 936, he founded the monastery of Chanteuges. Between 940 and 941, he controlled Auvergne. In 944, when Hugh the Great and King Louis IV entered Aquitaine, the former met Raymond at Nevers and confirmed his titles while the Toulousain returned with the king to the royal court.

He married a daughter of García II of Gascony, who was either the same person as his wife Gersenda or a distinct earlier wife, and was succeeded by his son Raymond III (or IV).

[edit]Notes

^ Regimundus Pontio

^ Aquitanorum dux

^ Variously referred to as duke or prince: Gothorum princeps.

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