Rebecca Hopping

"Goody Hoppin aged abt 75 years, died abt 4 in morning" (EHTR Vol 5, p 561 - E.S. Hopping)

Born: 1658

East Hampton, Suffolk, New York, USA

Died: 15 Apr 1743

Easthampton, Suffolk, New York, USA

Spouse

Nathaniel Talmage

Born: 1643 in Southhampton, Long Island, New York, USA

Died: 3 Aug 1716 in Easthampton, Long Island, New York, USA

Marriage: abt 1675 in Easthampton, Livingston, New York, USA View Info

Children Sex Birth

Thomas Talmage M 1676 in Easthampton, Long Island, New York, USA

John Talmage M 1678 in Easthampton, Long Island, New York, USA

Elizabeth Joan Talmage F abt 1685 in Easthampton, Suffolk, New York, USA

Martha Talmage F 1688 in Easthampton, Suffolk, New York, USA

Enos Talmage M 1690 in Long Island, Suffolk, New York, USA

Daniel Talmage M 1693 in East Hampton, Suffolk, New York, USA

Rebecca Talmage F 1698 in Suffolk, Livingston, New York, USA

Naomi Talmage F 1701 in Easthampton, Suffolk, New York, USA

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Biography

In progress Rebecca was born in 1658 to Thomas Osborne and Mary Goatley Osborne inEast Hampton, Suffolk, New York Colony, In 1677 she married Nathaniel Talmage in Easthampton, Long Island, New York Colony.<ref>U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; 1196036; Yates Publishing, Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.</ref>

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See also:* Records of the Town of East-Hampton, Long Island, Suffolk Co., N. Y., - with Other - Ancient Documents of Historic Value. Volume II, IV, &V.* Joseph I. Conklin genealogy book, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998).* An account of Deaths in East-Hampton, since my coming thither, whichwas in September, 1696, kept by Nathl. Huntting. 15 Apr 1743

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Category: Suffolk County, New York Category:New Haven, New HavenColony

Biography

Rebecca Osborn was born in 1642 to Thomas Osborne and Mary Goatley. Baptized 10/23/1642 in New Haven, Connecticut.
The church record reads:“Rebecca, daughter of Sister Osborne” was baptized 23 Oct 1642.<ref>Connecticut Church Records Index: New Haven First Congregational Church 1639-1937. Volume 078 Part 2 New Haven Vol. J-Z. Hartford: Connecticut State Library, 1947. </ref>

Rebecca married Roger Smith in 1663 <ref>Torrey, Clarence, A. U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 Page 688, Accessed through Ancestry.com.</ref> and had son David. Roger Smith died in 1671. She married second John Hopping. Son Matthias. She passed away in 1704 in East Hampton, Suffolk County, New York Colony.

Children David Smith Mattias Hopping

NOTES

“Who was the Matriarch of the Hoppings in America?“Research by Richard Gess, Walter Snel and Judith Hopping— much speculation, few facts. The wife of the Immigrant John Hopping is ubiquitously identified as "Goody" (i.e. Goodwife) Rebecca Hand, widow of Roger Smith.Documentary evidence suggests that Smith's widow was actually Rebecca Osborne, daughter of Thomas Osborne (b. 1594, d. aft 1677), one of theearliest settlers of East Hampton, Long Island.Multiple documents establish that it was Rebecca, the widow of Roger Smith, who married John Hopping in 1679. <ref>Cooper, Thomas W. Records of the Court of Sessions of Suffolk County, NY, 1933 </ref> We see that Rebecca Smith, widow of Roger, was made the administrator of Smith's estate in 1671.In this document her brother is unambiguously identified as Thomas Jr.Osborne, son of Thomas Osborne. In Jeanne Rattray’s book, <ref>Rattray, Jeanne, East Hampton History</ref> Thomas Sr. Osborne is listed as having daughter Rebecca who was baptized Oct 23, 1642 and died in East Hampton April 10, 1704.But if Rebecca was an Osborne, why has she been identified as Rebecca Hand?Rebecca is often listed as the daughter of Stephen Hand and Sarah Stratton, but their children are all born between 1661 and 1678, too late to be siblings of our Rebecca since she was bearing children between the late 1660s and about 1680. She was widowed in 1671 with children and married John in 1679. For Rebecca to have been born a Hand, she would have to be Stephen's sister, the daughter of John Hand and Alice Gransden.The documentary evidence that Rebecca was the daughter of Thomas Osborne makes this unlikely scenario moot, and it seems at first that we should dismiss the Hand designation altogether.But In 1667 a joint deed of brothers Benjamin, Stephen, and ShamgarHand (sons of John Hand and Alice Gransden) included a Rebecca Hand as a witness.Some Hand genealogists have argued that this is Rebecca Stratton Bushnell who is generally accepted to have been the second wife of Stephen Hand.The problem with this suggestion is that she married the Bushnell in 1668 and didn't marry Stephen for another 15 to 20 years. The other possibility is that she first married a Hand. The only candidate for such a marriage is John Jr. Hand, son of John Hand and Alice Gransden.A great deal of research by the Hand family has not produced any documentary proof that John Jr. was ever married or had issue, but John Jr.is the only unaccounted for son of John Sr.All of John Jr.'s other brothers have documented marriages and children.There is an undocumented Hand family tradition that John Jr. married Rebecca Stratton Bushnell, but since it has been established that this Rebecca was the second wife of his brother Stephen, this claim has been discounted in Hand publications, and the tradition of a wife named Rebecca dismissed. John Jr. sold his East Hampton property in 1663, moving to Guildford Connecticut.If Rebecca married him around 1660, she may have been abandoned by himin 1663 without issue, (there is evidence that divorce based on abandonment were granted on Long Island during that period).She could have remained on good enough terms with the Hand family to have witnessed the deed of his brothers in 1667, still using the name of Rebecca Hand.John Jr. apparently visited East Hampton in 1668, (perhaps to finalizea divorce?).We don't know when Rebecca Osborne married Roger Smith, but son David Smith was born around this time, since he was granted his father's property by his stepfather John Hopping at majority (in 1686). After 1671 when Roger died, Rebecca became involved with John Hopping (they were fined for fornication in 1674), finally getting marrying in1679. Their son Matthias was born in 1680. Postulating an early marriage for John Jr. solves the mystery within the Hand family: how to identify the Rebecca Hand who signed the 1667 document but for whom no birth or death record has been found.The only undocumented piece in this theory is her first marriage to John Jr. Hand, whose marital history is completely unknown.His departure from East Hampton in 1663 is a kind of smoking gun, and coupled with the tradition that he married a woman named Rebecca, it seems possible that he had an early marital failure.In any event, no other explanation for the attribution of Hand to our Rebecca is as plausible. What can be proven is that our ancestor was Rebecca Osborne Smith prior to her marriage to John Hopping. The first residents/patentees or grantees of East-Hampton were : John Hand, John Stratten, Sen'r. Thomas Talmage, Jr., Robert Bond, Daniel Howe, Robert Rose, Thomas Thomson, Joshua Barnes and John Mulford...

TOPPINGCapt. Thomas Topping, first of the name in Southampton, was born in Totternhoe, Bedfordshire, England. He was son of John and Selena BlacketCrossman Topping and was baptized March 19, 1608. Capt.Topping was made a freeman of Southampton in 1650 after residence in Wethersfield, Conn. (1636) and Milford, Conn. (1640) and Hempstead, L.I. (1644), leaving his mark as a man of strong character and action upon each community.He lived in Southampton from 1649 to 1673, and was one of the most active developers of the town, a magistrate, a Captain of militia, servedmany terms as representative of Southampton at Hartford when the eastern Long Island towns were under Connecticut Colony; was one of New York Governor Nicolls' Council in 1664, a member of the Hempstead Convention, and one of the Commissioners of Admiralty in 1665, High Sheriff in 1666.He made the Topping Purchase of land west of Canoe Place, which was turned over to Southampton town after some years' controversy and now forms its western half.He eventually returned to Milford, then settled in Branford, serving also from there, as representative to the legislature in Hartford; and died there in 1687.Capt. Topping's home lot was on South Main Street, Southampton His house still stands; today it is a part of the Episcopal Rectory.His sons' James, John, and Elnathan were among the founders of the hamlet of Sagaponack, between Southampton and East Hampton villages and so near Wainscott (in E.H. Town) that its families have always been intimately associated with East Hampton. Toppings have always lived closeto the Town Line on both sides. Find a Grave lists her father as John Hand. <ref> https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/140313266/mariam-rebecca-osborne</ref>

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• https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/136470978