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Robert Lord of Pontefract de Lacy, Lord of Pontefact, Lord of Pontefract

Birthdate:
Birthplace: Halton, Cheshire, , England
Death: Died in Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England
Cause of death: Died before 1129
Place of Burial: Yorkshire, Pontrefact, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Ilbert Lord of Pontefact de Lacy, Lord of Pontefact and Hawise De Lacy
Husband of Mathilde du Perche, comtesse du Perche
Partner of NN NN
Father of Albreda (Aubrie) de lisoures; Henry de Lacy, Baron of Pontefract and Lord of Blackburnshire; Walter de Lacy; Robert de Lacy; Ilbert de Lacy, II and 2 others
Brother of Ingelram de Lacy, seigneur de Remilly; Hugh de De Lacy; Walter De lacy; N.N de Lacy and Miss de Lacy

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About Robert Lord of Pontefract de Lacy, Lord of Pontefact, Lord of Pontefract

ROBERT de Lacy

From Medlands:

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, son of ILBERT de Lacy & his wife Hawise --- (-[1093/99], bur Pontefract Priory). A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Robertum Lacy” as son of “Ilberto de Lacy” and his wife “Hauisia”, adding that he founded “monasterium apud Pontefractum”, died during the reign of King William II, and was buried at Pontefract[46]. “Rodbertus de Laceio” confirmed the donation by “pater meus Hilbertus” to Selby Abbey, for the soul of “fratris mei Hugonis”, by undated charter[47]. “Robertus de Laceio” founded Pontefract Priory, for the soul of “Hylberti patris mei et Hawisiæ matris meæ”, by undated charter, dateable to the reign of King William II, witnessed by “W. Peverel…”[48]. Florence of Worcester records that "Beornardus de Novo Mercatu, Rogerius de Laceio…Rawlfus de Mortuo Mari…cum hominibus comitis Rogeri de Scrobbesbyria" threatened Worcester with an army of Normans and Welsh, dated to [1088][49]. A writ addressed to Robert Bishop of Lincoln and Osbert Sheriff of Lincolnshire, dated to [1095/1100], sanctioned an exchange of lands between "Ur de Abet" and "Rotb de Laceio de Ingoluesmaera", witnessed by "R. fil Haim"[50].

m MATILDA, daughter of --- (-bur [Pontefract Priory]). “Henricus de Lasci” donated property to Pontefract Priory, for the souls of “patris mei Roberti de Lasci et Matilildis matris meæ”, by undated charter[51]. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that Ilbert de Lacy was buried “ad sinistrum cornu altaris sancti Benedicti” next to his mother[52].

Robert & his wife had three children:

1. ILBERT de Lacy (-1141, bur [Pontefract Priory]). A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Hilbertum et Henricum” as the two sons of “Robertum Lacy” and his wife “Matilda”, adding that he died childless and was buried “ad sinistrum cornu altaris sancti Benedicti” next to his mother[53]. m as her first husband, ALICE de Gand, daughter of WALTER de Gand & his wife Maud de Bretagne. “Aliz de Gant” donated property to Pontefract Priory, for the souls of “prioris domini mei Ilberti de Lascy” and with the consent of “Henricus de Lascy”, by undated charter[54]. She married secondly Roger de Mowbray. Her second marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which “Rogerus de Molbrai” confirmed the donation of property to Pontefract Priory by “uxor mea…pro anima prioris domini sui Ilberti de Lasci”, witnessed by “Willielmus Peverel…Turgis de Molbray…”[55].

2. HENRY de Lacy (-Holy Land 25 Sep 1177). A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Hilbertum et Henricum” as the two sons of “Robertum Lacy” and his wife “Matilda”[56]. “Henricus de Lasci” donated property to Pontefract Priory, for the souls of “patris mei Roberti de Lasci et Matilildis matris meæ”, by undated charter[57]. “Henricum de Laceio” founded Kirkstall Abbey, for the souls of “Ilberti avi mei et Hawis uxoris suæ…et Matildis amitæ”, by undated charter[58]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Henricus de Lascy xliv l xv s, de novo xxxl xvi d" in Yorkshire in [1171/72][59]. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that the death “in terra sancta VII Kal Oct” of Henry de Lacy, adding that his burial place is unknown[60]. m [as her second husband,] AUBREYE, daughter of [EUSTACE] [de Vescy] & his wife ---. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that “Henricus Lacy” married “sororem Willielmi Vesci rectoris de Berwic”[61]. Her parentage is indicated by the charter dated to [1180/93] under which “Robertus de Lasci” (her son) granted property to “Willelmo filio Eustachii avunculo meo”[62]. However, it is not impossible that Aubreye was the uterine sister of William FitzEustace and therefore did not share the same father. The question of Aubreye´s possible earlier marriage is discussed below. Henry & his wife had one child:

a) ROBERT de Lacy (-21 Aug 1193, bur Kirkstall Abbey). The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1190/91], records "Robertus de Lascy" paying "xxi l xvii s vi d" in Yorkshire[63]. A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Robertus” as the son of “Henricus Lacy” and his wife “sororem Willielmi Vesci rectoris de Berwic”, adding that he died “1193 XII Kal Sep” and was buried “apud Kirkstall”[64]. m as her first husband, ISABEL de Warenne, daughter of HAMELIN Plantagenet Earl of Surrey & his wife Isabel de Warenne of Surrey (-before 30 Nov 1234). A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Isabella” as wife of “Robertus Lacy”, adding that they were childless[65]. The 1194/95 Pipe Roll records "Ysabel que fuit uxor Roberti de Laci" owing in Yorkshire "pro habenda dota sua de terra eiusdem Roberti"[66]. She married secondly ([1196]) Gilbert de Laigle Lord of Pevensey. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that "Gileberti de Aquila" married "comes Warennie…sorore sua" whose dowry was "villa de Westcot…hundredum de Wudetun" in Surrey[67].

3. AUBREYE de Lacy . According to the Complete Peerage, Aubreye de Lisours, successor of Robert de Lacy was his cousin[68], implying that her mother was Robert´s paternal aunt. This appears to be confirmed by the 1130 Pipe Roll which records "Robt de Lusor" in Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and that he married "sorore Ilbti de Laci"[69]. An apparently different version of Aubreye´s parentage is provided by a manuscript history of the Lacy family which records that “Albreda vel Aubreia, filia Roberti Lisours, soror ex parte matris” succeeded on the death of “Robertus Lacy”[70]. If this is correct, Aubreye´s father was the [first/second] husband of Robert de Lacy´s mother. As the husband of Aubrey junior died in 1163, the chronology suggests that, if this version is correct, it is more probable that Aubreye was the daughter of her mother´s first marriage. It appears from the 1130 Pipe Roll that the Complete Peerage version is to be preferred. m ROBERT de Lisours, son of FULK de Lisours & his wife --- (-after 1167). Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record the knights´ fees held from "F[ulconis] de Lisuris" in Northamptonshire, referring to land which "Ricardus Engaine avus meus" gave to "ultimæ uxori suæ in dotem, scilicet uxori Ricardi filii Ursi" and refers to land held by "duæ amitæ meæ"[71]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus de Lisures i m" in Huntingdonshire in [1167/68][72]. Robert & his wife had one child:

a) AUBREYE de Lisours (-after Sep 1200). A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that “Albreda vel Aubreia, filia Roberti Lisours, soror ex parte matris” succeeded on the death of “Robertus Lacy” and that she married “Richardus constabularius Cestriæ”[73]. "Willelmus filius Godrici" paid a fine for his marriage with "matre Johannis constabularii" in 1178[74]. A charter dated 1194 records a final agreement relating to a dispute between “Albredam de Lisores et Rogerum constabularium Cestrie nepotem suum” concerning the land of “Roberti de Lasci”, also naming “Roberti de Lisores patris ipsius Albrede” and “Willelmus filius prefate Albrede”[75]. m firstly RICHARD FitzEustache, son of EUSTACHE FitzJohn & his second wife Agnes --- (-1163). m secondly ([1178]) WILLIAM FitzGodric, son of GODRIC & his wife ---.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lacy#Robert_de_Lacy_.28Lascy.2C_Laci.29

Sources:

Keats-Rohan, K.S.B. Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166. The Boydell Press, 2002. p. 538. -------------------- Robert de Lacy of Pontefract was founder of the Priory of "Pontfret and Mitall [Nuthall]".

He married Matildis uxor Roberti de Lacy circa 1083.

He was Lord of Pontefract Castle. He succeeded his father circa 1093.

Robert profited from the fall of Roger de Montgomery by the grant to him of the land previously held in Yorkshire by Warin Boissel and William de Sai in 1102.

Robert was banished from England in 1114 for some unspecified offense against King Henry I, but he retained his share of the Norman inheritance.

He died before 1129.

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( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p362.htm#i20893 )

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm ) -------------------- Robert De Lacy Earl Of Pontefract 1 2

Birth: About 1070 in Halton, Runcorn, Cheshire, England 3 4

Death:

Sex: M

Father: Ilbert De Laci Knight b. 1045 in , Loci, Normandie, France

Mother: Hawise De Lacy b. About 1045 in (, Loci, Normandie, France)

   

Unknown: (Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England) 5 6 1 2 4

Changed: 18 Jul 2002 01:00

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 Maud Du Perche Countess Of Pontefract (Wife) b. About 1070 in (, Perche, Nogent-Le-Rotrou, France)  

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Marriage: Abt 1094 in Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England 6 Nov 2004 14:29

Children:

Albreda De Lacy b. About 1097 in Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England

Walter De Lacy b. About 1099 in Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England

Hugh De Lacy b. About 1105 in , Ewyas Harrold, Hereford, England

Ibert De Lacy b. About 1106 in Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England

Henry De Lacy b. About 1108 in Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England

William De Lacy b. About 1109 in (Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England))


 


-------------------- Founded & built Cluniac priory of St. John, Pontrefract. Built Lacy Castle at Clitheroe. Banished from his English estates abt 1114, but kept those in Normandy. ................................

--- W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194*, genealogical chart following p 260. Besides the three children Aubrey,Ilbert II and Henry I entered here, Wightman has "Robert (o.s.p.)" and "a knight (ob. 1138)", of whom he says "These two may be one and the same person", and also "Jordan (ob. ante 1166)".

From same, p 59: "Robert I succeeded his father Ilbert as head of the family, probably between 1091 and 1100. Almost as little is known about his career as about that of his father. The date of his birth cannot even be guessed,and the date of his death is uncertain. He was alive during the time of Thomas II, archbishop of York (1108-13). He was dead by 1129, when Robert de Lisours paid L12. 9s. 4d. for permission to marry Robert de Lacy's daughter Aubrey. ... Robert's wife was called Matilda. She survived into Stephens's reign, and perhaps even until 1155. They had three sons whose existence can be proved, as well as a daugher, Aubrey. Ilbert II suceeded Robert I, and Henry succeeded Ilbert when the latter died apparently childless. A third unnamed son was killed at the battle of the Standard, 22 August 1138, and was the only Anglo-Norman knight killed. Robert also had a son of his own name."

From same, p 60, 61, 63: "Robert I was the first member of the family to found a monastery of his own. ..... Robert I was responsible for the foundation of the Cluniac priory of St. John, Pontefract, at some time during the reign of William I. Robert I seems to have been an energeticfounder and builder, for in addition to his ecclesiastical foundations he was probably responsible for the building of the Lacy castle at Clitheroe. There is no real evidence whatever for the suggestion sometimes advanced that Roger of Poitou built it."

From same, p 66, 67, 68, 72: "Round about 1114 Robert I was banishedfrom his English estates, though apparently not from those in Normandy,since his son was still in possession of his share of the lands there in 1133. The honour was granted to Hugh de Laval not later than 1118 .....Although there is no evidence to connect him with England before he received Pontefract, Hugh seems to have regarded himself as the heir of the Lacy family and to have behaved much like any ordinary tenant-in-chief, unlike his immediate bsuccessor [William] Maltravers. ..... Maltravers was nothing more than an efficient lay administrator and financier who had risen in the service of the king in much the same way as Payn fitzJohn in the West Midlands. Payn was, however, a member of the lesser nobility; of Maltravers's origin nothing is known. He owed his position entirely to his abilities and to the king's recognition of them, to such an extent that by 1130 he had become a man of considerable substance. ..... The manner of his death has long been known, since the tale was told by Richard of Hexham. As soon as Henry I was dead, Maltravers was killed by a knight of the honour, and the way was open for the return to Pontefract of Ilbert II de Lacy. As an upstart whotook no interest in the affairs of his barony save for what he could extract to recoup the sums he had paid for it, Maltravers must have incurred the dislike of established honorial barons like William Foliot and Roger Peitevin. They were the men who would suffer in pocket from his demands, and who would despise a man who could not be regarded as their lord and leader in the same way as a genuine member of the baronage."

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Robert De Lacy's Timeline

1070
May 20, 1070
Halton, Cheshire, , England
1080
1080
Age 9
1096
April 13, 1096
Age 25
Holton, Yorkshire, , England
1097
1097
Age 26
Of, Pontrefact, Yorkshire, England
1097
Age 26
Pontrefact, Yorkshire, England
1097
Age 26
West Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
1099
1099
Age 28
Pontrefact,Yorkshire,England
1099
Age 28
Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England
1106
1106
Age 35
Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England
1113
1113
Age 42
Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England