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Robert Ogle

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Birthplace: Ogle Castle, Whalton, Northumberland, England
Death: Died in Whalton, Northumberland, England
Immediate Family:

Son of Sir Robert Ogle, Kt., MP and Matilda Ogle (Grey)
Husband of Isabel Kirkby, Baroness Ogle
Father of Sir Robert de Ogle, VII; Owen de Ogle, 2nd Baron Ogle; Isabel Widdrington and Thomas Ogle
Brother of Agnes Whitfield; Margaret Harbottle; Elizabeth Ann Middleton (Ogle); William Ogle, of Choppington; Constance de Ogle and 5 others

Occupation: 1st Baron Ogle
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About Robert Ogle

  • 'Sir Robert Ogle, 1st Lord Ogle1,2
  • 'M, b. circa 1406, d. 1 November 1469
  • Father Sir Robert Ogle, Sheriff of Northumberland1,2 b. bt 1380 - 1384, d. 12 Aug 1436
  • Mother Maud Grey2 b. c 1382, d. a 1454
  • ' Sir Robert Ogle, 1st Lord Ogle was born circa 1406.1 He married Isabel (Elizabeth) Kirkby, daughter of Alexander Kirkby and Isabel Tunstall, before 1423.3 Sir Robert Ogle, 1st Lord Ogle died on 1 November 1469.3
  • 'Family Isabel (Elizabeth) Kirkby
  • Child
    • ◦Sir Owen Ogle, 2nd Lord Ogle+4 b. c 1440, d. 1 Sep 1486
  • Citations
  • 1.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. X, p. 29.
  • 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 396-397.
  • 3.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. X, p. 31.
  • 4.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. X, p. 32.
  • http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1559.htm#i46849
  • __________
  • 'Robert OGLE (1° B. Ogle)
  • 'Born: 1406, Ogle, Northumberland, England
  • 'Died: 1 Nov 1469
  • Father: Robert OGLE (Sir Knight)
  • Mother: Maud GREY
  • 'Married: Elizabeth KIRKBY 1422, Thirland, Lancashire, England
  • Children:
    • 1. Robert OGLE (Sir Knight)
    • 2. Owen OGLE (2° B. Ogle)
    • 4. Isabel OGLE
    • 4. Thomas OGLE
  • http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/OGLE.htm#Robert OGLE (1° B. Ogle)
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During the war of the Roses, at the battle of St. Albans on May 22, 1455, an extract:

"For an hour the royalist defense held firm and the attack faltered. At this critical moment the earl of Warwick showed why it was he was to become known as the king maker. Seeing that the barricades could not be take by storm, he decided to go around them...

The ploy worked, Sir Robert Ogle, in command of 600 men from the Scottish marches, took the house between two inns, the sign of the cross keys, and the chequers, and broke into the market place. The blare of trumpets and the ringing war cry of A Warwick! A Warwick! announced the success of this flanking manoeuvre. The royalist in the center sounded the alarm and flew to arms, but again they were too late. The decisive breach had been made."

"At first the king's household put up a brave resistance, but they were in no condition to withstand the hail of arrows now descending upon them."...   "After half an hour or so they broke and scattered."... 

"The King of England, wounded in the neck, sheltered in a tanner's cottage, while his standard lay abandoned in the street." ...

"As soon as it was clear that the field of battle was his, York ordered the kings removal to more dignified quarters in the abbey."...

"Less than a hundred men had been killed, mostly Lancastrians... but the deaths of Somerset, Northumberland, and Clifford suggest that York and the Nevilles had intended ... to kill their enemies."... "The problem for the Yorkists was, they still claimed to be loyal to the king... but could not free themselves from their enemies without killing them."

This data was extracted from the book "The War of the Roses" by John Gillingham. To whom I am most grateful for the information, and his writing skills.

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Finally I found and purchased a copy of "Ogle and Bothal", A history of the Baronies of Ogle, Bothal, and Hepple (BOB), and a copy of "Living Descendants of Blood Royal (in America)" 5th Volume (LDBR). The tables are being revised to include these data. I find conflict with certain dates between the two and have used the date listed that seems most likely correct, based on birth dates of children etc.

BOB was commissioned by Sir Henry A. Ogle, Baronet, completed in 1902.

LDBR was compiled and edited by Count D'Angerville, and Dr. Arthur Adams (begun 1958).


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Charts of the Ogle Family of England and Ireland are Indexed here.

1 De Ogle 1055 - 1125

 2 Humphry DeOgle 1085 - 1166  
   3a Gilbert DeOgle 1115 - 1180  
     4a Robert Ogle 1152 - 1195 
       5 Robert Ogle 1172 - 1194 
     4b Gilbert Ogle 1164 - 1221 
     + Agnes - 1220 
     4c John Ogle 1166 - 1240 
     4d Richard Ogle 1168 - 1252 
       5a Thomas Ogle 1219 - 1270 
       + Daughter Tyson  
         6a  Alexander Ogle 1250 - 1269 
         6b  John Ogle 1264 - 1316 
         + Annabella Selby - 1320 
           7a  Robert Ogle 1295 - 1350 
           + Margaret Gubium  
             8a Robert Ogle 1306 - 1362 
             + Joan Heppel - 1363/64 
               9a Robert Ogle   1330 - 1355 
               + Elena Bertram - 1403 
                 10a  Robert Ogle of Callerton  (B: 8 Dec, 1351)   1351 - 1409 
                 + Joan Heton  
                   11a  Robert Ogle 1380 - 1436 
                   + Maud Grey  
                      12a Robert Ogle 1406 - 1469 
                     + Isabel Kirkby - 1477 
                       13a  Robert Ogle 1428 - 1472 
                       + Joan Eure  
                       13b  Thomas Ogle 1429 - 
                       13c Ewyn Ogle 1427 - 1486 
                       + Eleanor Hilton  
                         14a  Ralph Ogle 1468 - 1512/13 
                         + Margeret Gascoigne  
                           15a Robert Ogle 
                           + Anne Lumley  
                             16a  Robert Ogle - 1545 
                             + Dorothy Widdrington  
                               17a  Robert Ogle 1528 - 1562 
                               + Joan Mauleverer  
                               17b  Dorothy Ogle  
                               + Roger Fenwick  
                               17c Margery Ogle  
                               + 2nd Wife of Robert Ogle:  
                               + Jane Radcliffe  
                               17d  Cuthbert Ogle 1540 - 1597 
                               + Katherine Carnaby 
                                 18a  Jane Ogle 1566 - 1625 
                                 + Edward Talbot 
                                 18b Katherine Ogle 1568 - 1629 
                                 + Charles Cavendish 
                               17e  Thomas Ogle 1541 -  
                               +  Isabel  
                                 18c Grace Ogle  
                               17f John Ogle 1545 - 
                               17g  Ralph Ogle 1562 - 1569 
                               17h  Jane Ogle 1543 - 1562 
                               17i Margaret Ogle 1543 - 1546 
                               + Robert Widdrington  
                             16b Oswin Ogle 1542 - 1583 
                             + Jane Horsley  
                               17j  Robert Ogle 1562 - 
                               17k  Ewin Ogle 1598 - 
                               + Isabella Middleton  
                                 18 Robert Ogle 1595 - 
                                 18 Catherine Ogle 1600 - 
                                 18 Jane Ogle 1600 - 
                               17l Jane Ogle  
                               17m Anne Ogle  
                             16c  Agnes Ogle  
                             16d  Dorothry Ogle  
                           15b  Oswin Ogle  
                           15c  William Ogle  
                           + Margery Delaval  
                           15d  John Ogle  
                           + Sibyl Heron  
                           15e  George Ogle 1526 - 1564 
                           + Anne Lumley  
                           15f  Anne Ogle  
                           + H. Lisle  
                           * 2nd Husband of Anne Ogle:  
                           + J. Delaval  
                           15 G Dorothy Ogle  
                           + T. Forster 
                           * 2nd Husband of Dorothy Ogle:  
                           + T. Grey  
                           15h  Margeret Ogle  
                           + George Harbottle  
                         14b  Robert Ogle 1492 - 
                           15i  Gilbert Ogle 1514 - 
                           + Isabel 1514 - 1539 
                             16e  George Ogle 1539 - 1562 
                             16f  Oswin Ogle 1539 - 
                             16g  John Ogle 1529 - 1562 
                             16h  Anne Ogle 1539 - 
                             16i   Beryll Ogle 1539 - 
                             + Horsley  
                             16j  Margaret Ogle 1539 - 
                         14c Joan Ogle  
                         +  Robert Clavering  
                       13d  Isabel Ogle 1477 - 
                       +  J Heron  
                         14d  John Heron 
                         14e  Daughter Heron 
                         *  2nd Husband of Isabel Ogle:  
                         +  John Widdrington  
                     12b John Ogle 1410 - 
                     +  Margaret Booth  
                     12   William Ogle 1412 - 1474 
                       13e  Gawin Ogle - See Pedigree VI 
                     12d  Margaret Ogle  
                     +  R Grey  
                     *  2nd Husband of Margaret Ogle:  
                     +  N Bellingham  
                     12e  Margery Ogle  
                     +  R Harbottle  
                     12f  Elizabeth Ogle  
                     + W Heron  
                     * 2nd Husband of Elizabeth Ogle:  
                     +  John Middleton  
                     12g  Constance Ogle  
                     +  John Mitford  
                     12h Joan Ogle  
                     +  Robert Manners  
                     12i  Agnes Ogle  
                     + Matthew Whitfield  
                     12j  Jennett Ogle  
                     +  John Lilburne  
                       13f  Robert  
                     12k  Anne Ogle  
                     + Thomas Lisle  
                   11 John Bertram 1406 - 1449 
                   + Joan Loudham  
                     12i  William Bertram 1409 - 1465 
                     +  Alianor Kempston  
                       13g William Bertram 1472 - 
                     12m Robert Bertram 1451 - 
                     +  Mary Finwick  
                       13h  Robert Bertram  
                   11 Joan Ogle 1374 - 
                   11  Margery Ogle 1374 - 
                   + Robert Raymes  
                   11 John Ogle - 1435 
                     12n  Richard Ogle 1450 - 1473 
                     +  Joan Thornton  
                       13i  John Ogle 1537 - 
                     12o  John Ogle 1451 - 
               9b  Thomas Ogle 1352 - 1366 
               9c  Joan Ogle 1352 - 
               + William Swinburne  
             8b Alexander Ogle - 1355 
           7b  John Ogle 1297 - 1351 
           + Agnes  
           7c  Isabel Ogle  
       5b Roger Ogle 1221 - 1255 
       5c  Gilbert Ogle 1249 - 1283 
         6c  Gilbert Ogle 1278 - 1306 
         6d  William Ogle 1283 - 1319  
           7d  Henry Ogle 1316 - 1319 
           7e Gilbert Ogle 1319 - 1355  
           + Alice Wyght  
             8c  John Ogle 1344 -  
             8d  Peter Ogle 1355 -  
           7f  Richard Ogle 1307 - 1323 
             8e  John Ogle 1323 - 
               9d  Robert Ogle 1362 - 1377 
             8f Elizabeth Ogle 1323 - 
             8g  Joan Ogle 1323 - 
         6e  John Ogle 1278 -  
   3b Robert DeOgle 

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Codes:; "?" with or as a date means we have no documentation for an exact date. ;aft: after; m: Married, c: Child, p: Place, bef: before, d:died, b:born; a "c" suffix is circa

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This chart is an extract from Ogle and Bothal - 1902 = A copy of Ogle and Bothal can be purchased from the Ogle/Ogles Family Association located on the web at www.ogles.org

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6/14/2005 update - Since all my commentary concerning "Vikings" in these web pages have been made before this date there is news.; I have taken extensive DNA test.; I'm told that my Haplogroup is the "R1b1 European", and that I show no "Scandanavian" markers in my DNA.; Nor do I have any "R1a Eastern European" markers.;

The next thing is to prove is which line in England or Ireland I am related to.; A map of the European Haplogroups can be found at ;http://oghgul.org/quest/dna_research/tracing_man.htm

  • 1. I have questions about the first "De". I believe this is a French prefix such as is "Von" or "Van".; If so the Norman-French invasion occurred after this date in 1066.; Except if: This ogle would have been about 11 years old in 1066, his Father may have done homage to the power that was, and was given the name "De Ogle".; At the time of the "Norman invasion", the "North Men - Vikings" were three generations French, their fathers having married into the local population.; Another thought, since the ancestors of the Norman-French invaders were "Viking", did they accept the Ogle Clan as relatives?;
  • 2. According to "The Kings War" a book by C. V. Wedgewood, Thomas advised King Charles I of a possible method to end the civil war. ;This is a most interesting book. The conditions in England at ;this time (plague 1636, 1646 sets the stage for the great migration to the Americas and Australia, and hastened the foundation of Americas liberty.
  • 3b. This Robert may not exist - no futher data listed
  • 4a. bc: 1152-aft 1195, Soldiering in 1172 & lived, so at least 20 yrs old; on Pipe rolls 1181 -- based on these dates, and being a son of Gilbert III, he must be the eldest, and must be the Robert of Ogle Castle;; This Robert had a son Robert bc:1172 d: 1195 who "died in his fathers lifetime", Roberts estates went to his nephews.
  • 4b. bc: 1164 dc: 1216 & 1221; m: Agnes in 1159, Agnes living in 1222; He died w/o issue; Gilbert was fined by a sheriff in 1184 - I'm putting him at 20 yrs on this occasion giving 1164 as DOB.
  • 4c. Sir john - bc: 1166 aft 1240; Witness in 1230-1240, succeeded his brother Gilbert; John must have been 3rd born so bc 1166);
  • 4d. Richard - bc: 1168 dc: 1252, Living 1230-1240, He was 2nd signature on a witness document after John, so he must have been younger;
  • 5a. bc:1172 d:1195; he "died in his fathers lifetime", What would have been his estates went to his cousins.
  • 5b. m: daughter and heir of Tyson; p: Ogle castle, Northumberland
  • 8a. M1:Annebella Terwhite 1319-1331 C:none; (I'm not sure about this entry - I can't find it again);; M2: (3.1329 - 5.1331) Joan Hepple 1310-1364/5; M:1331; C: Robert Jr.; P: Ogle Northumberland
  • 8b. Alexander was killed at the battles of Norham or Berwick in 1355.
  • 9a. Sir Robert married Alena (Ellen) Berthram (of Bothal) (heir to Sir Robert Bertram) in 1351. He didn't marry at age 10. So his birth date must be more like 1331 or 1332 the year of, or year after his mother married.; I showed his original birth date as 1341.; I have also moved his son's birth date up two years, to coincide with the marriage. M: 1351.
  • 9c. Joan Ogle, M: 1352 - Sir William De Swinburne of Capheaton; C: Sir William Swinburne;
  • 10a. (Sir) Robert 8 Dec 1351 - 31 Oct 1409 B: In Callerton; M: bef 24 Dec 1372? to Joan De Heton (? - 1416?)
  • 11a. Sir Robert ;Ogle, b: Ogle Castle 1380, d: 12 Aug 1436, Knight of Ogle, Warden of Roxborough Castle, Son of Sir Robert, knight of Ogle and Bothel Castles (Clay,88; D'Angerville - 267);-- M: 21 May 1399 to Matilda (Maud) Gray, Daughter of Sir Thomas Gray of Heton? and Jane De Mowbray (D'Angerville-266) - ;Alive 22 Aug 1451; Alive 1453/54;See Burke's Peerage & Baronetage 1968 edition, p 1103, where she is called matilda. (from the Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 (Weis)

C: Anne b-abt 1400, Margaret b-abt 1401, Constance b-abt 1402, Robert (Lord Ogle) XII,; John b-abt 1410 , Agnes b-abt 1410, William b-abt 1412, Jennett b-abt 1412, Elizabeth (Ann?) b-abt 1414, Margery b-abt 1416, Margaret b-abt 1420, Joan b-abt 1423,; Anne?,; P: Northumberland.

  • 12a. 1st Lord Ogle, Robert Ogle b:1406 d:1469?; M:Isabel kirkby Daughter & heir of Alexander Kirkby Alive May 1435, and 1452 as "Knight"; Alive 1462 "Lord"; C: Ralph.; According to Anthony Goodman in his "The war of the Roses" in 1462 it was 'Lord Ogle', while in 1455 he is called Knight. ;An inquisition postmortem was held in Bedlington 28 July 1495 for Robert Lord Ogle - His heir is Ralph Ogle.
  • 12b. John Ogle, 1410, M: Margaret Booth
  • 12c: Sir William Ogle, b:abt 1412 d:28.7.1495? (date of postmortem);; P: Choppington
  • 12e. Margery B: abt 1416; P: Kirkley
  • 12f.; Elizabeth (Anne?) Ogle, b: abt 1414; P: Kirkley --- M. (1) 13 Jan 1411/12, Sir William Heron, Knt., of Ford, B. 1400, d 1425; M. (2) Sir John Middleton. (Surtees Soc. 45:321; Clay, 152-153). ;I would hope she was at least 16 before her 1st marriage - being born then about 1396.
  • 12h. Joan B: abt 1423; P: Etal
  • 12j. Jennett B: abt 1412; P: Kirkley
  • 13c. 2nd Lord Ogle, Ewyn Ogle, b: 1439 d:1486; M: Elanore;Hilton, Daughter of Sir W Hilton.
  • 13e. Gawin Ogle, Heir to land in Choppington.; On this same day and place (Bedlington 28 July 1495) an inquisition

;;;;;;;; postmortem was held for William Ogle - his son Gawin is his heir.

  • 14a. 3rd Lord Ogle, Ralph Ogle, b:1468 d:1513; M: Margaret Daughter of Sir W Gascoigne.
  • 15a. (4th Lord Ogle) Robert, b:1489 d:1532; M: Anne Daughter of Sir T Lumley;
  • 15c. Sir William;Ogle, b:1491 d:1542, M: Margery DeLaval, daughter of Sir john DeLaval
  • 15g. Dorothy Ogle, 1465? - ?, ;M: (Sir) Thomas Forster; C: (Sir) Thomas Forster, Eleanor
  • 15h. Margaret Ogle; m. Sir Robert Harbotel, d. 14 Mar 1443.
  • 16a. 5th Lord Ogle, Robert Ogle, b:1527 d:1545,;M1: Dorothy, daughter of Sir Henry Widdrington, M2: Jane, daughter

of Sir Cuthbert Radcliffe.

  • 17a. 6th Lord Ogle, Robert Ogle, M: Joan, daughter and heir of Sir Thomas Mauleverer.; Robert is thought to have died in Ireland.; He may have been killed in battle, according to information I have received from an Ogle family member.
  • 17d. 7th Lord Ogle, Cuthbert Ogle, b:1540 d:1597, M: Katherine, daughter and co heir of Sir R Carnaby
    • ***

From this point the Barony of Ogle passes from our Ogle male blood line to the Ogle female blood line, and marries out of the family.; The Lordship passed to the 9th Lord Ogle, Sir William Cavendish via his Mother, Baroness Katherine Ogle, youngest daughter of Cuthbert and co-heir with her Sister Jane.; I have no information on the 8th Lord Ogle, it may have been William’s Father, it probably was not Edward Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, who married Cuthbert's eldest daughter Jane, or perhaps it was skipped in favor of the Baroness.

  • ****

Codes:; "?" with or as a date means we have no documentation for an exact date. ;aft: after; m: Married, c: Child, p: Place, bef: before, d:died, b:born; a "c" suffix is circa

  • --. November 13 Henry VIII(1521). Indenture of Mortgage by Thomas Lord Dacre of Gillysland to Robert Lord Ogle the manor of Netherton, Northumberland. ;Dame Anne, wife of Lord Ogle is mentioned.

Year unknown - Robert Lord Ogle, grants to Thomas Lord Dacre of Gyllysland, William Dacre, Lord Greystock, and Phillip Dacre, armiger, all his manor of [Netherton], 11 November ....

July 20 Elizabeth (1578), (1) Right honorable William Howard, alias Lord William Howard and Dame Elizabeth, his wife (2) Thomas Ogle of Hepscott, Gentleman. Grant of village, town or Hamlet of West Duddon, Northumberland, in the parish of Stannington, for 21 years. Signed Thomas Ogle.

Mentioned: (New Co. History of Northumberland, vol XIV P328; Hodson, Northumberland Vol II, Part II, P.113) follow M: Phillis Ogle, d. 1606 - Daughter of John Ogle // ?? Barbara who married John Ogle of Ogle Castle may have been Dau of Ralph Fenwick of Stanton, J. U.. // ?? Ralph Fenwick; M. Barbara Ogle, Dau of John Ogle. b. Ogle Castle

On 7 Aug 1685 William conveyed a messuage (a farm?) in Long Horsley to Robert Bullman for £300.

Mentioned: ;Nathaniell Ogle Esq., 13 June 1719.; ;N. C. Ogle, deceased, 1912;

Entry Aug, 1999: From the book Northumbrian Heritage, authored by Miss Nancy Ridley, first printed in November 1968, there is mention of Ogle as follows: (She is writing of the area between Morpeth and Alnwick) "It is in this part of Northumberland that Newcastle University has its Agricultural Research Station, Cockle Park, where there is a Pele Tower incorporated in the farm house. ;Cockle Park was once the property of the ancient family of Ogle, who are reputed to have been the proudest in the County. ;They had their chief seat at the little hamlet which still bears their name, and is situated about eleven miles north-west of Newcastle. The castle of this once famous family is part of a manor house, dating from the seventeenth century. ;The Ogle family had another tower in this part of the county. ;On the west side of the road to the border, is the little hamlet of Causey Park. Here on the tower can be seen the arms of this proud race. ;The tower now forms part of a house, and in the garden is a sundial, bearing an inscription, comparing the time at noon, at 'Cassapark' with other parts of Europe. The date is 1705."

Miss Ridley is either the daughter or the grand daughter of Lord Ridley, The family is also of ancient heritage, and lived but a few miles from the Ogle Family.



      
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Robert Ogle, 1st Baron Ogle's Timeline

1406
1406
Whalton, Northumberland, England
1426
1426
Age 20
Of,Thirland,Lancashire,England
1428
1428
Age 22
Yorkshire, England
1435
1435
Age 29
Knight
1438
1438
Age 32
Sheriff of Northumberland
1440
1440
Age 34
Ogle Castle, Northumberland, England
1441
1441
Age 35
Bothal, Northumberland, England
1449
1449
Age 43
Of,Bothal,Northumberland,England
1461
1461
Age 55
Warden of the east marches
1462
1462
Age 56
Baron of Ogle