Rogièr I 'lo Vièlh' de Comenge, comte de Carcassona (930 - c.1011) MP

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Nicknames: "Roger I /de Comminges/", "Roger I /De Comminiges/", "Roger I de Carcasone", "Le vieux", "le Vieux", "also known as Roger II of Cominges the Elder"
Death: Died
Occupation: Comte de Carcassonne, de Razès, de Couserans et de Comminges, Seigneur de Foix, Count, Comte, Sieur, Greve, Comte de Carcassonne (11), Couserans, Comminges, de Comminges et de Couserans, Comte de Comminges, Count of Carcassone
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About Rogièr I 'lo Vièlh' de Comenge, comte de Carcassona

ROGER [I] de Comminges "le Vieux", son of ARNAUD Comte de Comminges et de Couserans & his wife Arsinde de Carcassonne ([930/40]-after Apr 1011). "Arnaldus et uxor mea Arsindis, et Rodgarius et Odo filiis nostris" donated property to the abbey of Montolieu, near Carcassonne for the souls of "…et Rodgario fratre meo" by charter dated 7 Apr 949[401]. His birth date range is estimated on the assumption that he and his brother were young adolescents or older children at the date of this charter. His date of death suggests that it is more likely that he was born in the later part of this range. He succeeded as Comte de Carcassonne, de Razès, de Couserans et de Comminges, Seigneur de Foix, although the date is not known. "Arsendes comitissa et filius meus Rodgarius comes" sold property to "Gilaberto vicario" by charter dated 29 Nov 957[402]. "Rodgarius comes et uxor mea…Aladaices" exchanged property with "Sancio et uxori suæ…Goidlane et filio illorum Bernardo clerico" by charter dated Apr 970[403]. "Rodgarius comes…cum Adalissa comitissa conjuge mea et Regimundo sobole" donated property "alodem meum de Corniliano" to the monastery of Saint-Hilaire, Carcassonne by charter dated 979[404]. "Roggarius comes…cum coniuge comitissa Adalaice seu Regimundo sobole atque Bernardo sobole" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Hilaire by charter dated Aug 981[405]. "Rotgerius comes et marchio cum coniuge comitissa Adalaisse atque cum prole Regimundo Barnardoque" donated property with the abbey of Saint-Hilaire by charter dated 1 Nov 984[406]. "Rogerius et uxor mea Adaleiz" donated "alodum nostrum…in pago Tolosano in terminio Podagense in villa…Valle" to the abbey of Lézat by charter dated Dec 987[407]. "Rodgarius comes et uxor mea Aladaiz" donated property to the abbey of Lézat by charter dated Aug [1001], signed by "Ramundo, Bernardo, Petrone"[408]. “Rogerius comes”, under his testament dated to [1002], divided his properties, “ad Raimundo filio meo…civitatem Carcassonam cum ipso comitatu carcassense…[et] Redas castellum cum suo comitatu…et ipsa tertia parte de comitatu Cominico” except for certain abbeys given to “filio meo Petrone”, and “ad Bernardo filio meo…comitatu de Cosoragno…castello de Fuxo”, and names “fratre meo Odone comite et…filio suo Arnaldo”[409]. "Rogerius comes et conjux mea Adalaizis comitissa" donated property to Saint-Hilaire, including property which "frater meus Oddo comes habuit", for the soul of "fratris mei Oddoni comitis" and for "filio nostro Regimundo comite", by charter dated Apr 1011, signed by "…Bernardus et dominus Petrus…comites…"[410].

m (before Apr 970) as her second husband, ADELAIS, widow of ---, daughter of --- (-after Apr 1011). "Rodgarius comes et uxor mea…Aladaices" exchanged property with "Sancio et uxori suæ…Goidlane et filio illorum Bernardo clerico" by charter dated Apr 970[411]. Her origin is unknown, although her first marriage is indicated by the reference to her son, presumably by this earlier marriage, in the charter dated 979 which is quoted below. Stasser has suggested that she was Adelais de Melgueil, daughter of Bernard Comte de Melgueil & his wife Sénégonde [de Rouergue], based on onomastic arguments[412]. "Rodgarius comes…cum Adalissa comitissa conjuge mea et Regimundo sobole" donated property "alodem meum de Corniliano" to the monastery of Saint-Hilaire, Carcassonne by charter dated 979, signed by "Adalaissæ comitissæ, Arnaudi comitis […], Regimundi sobolis meæ"[413]. Jaurgain points out that the words "filii Adalisse, Petri episcopi et comitis" should be added in the subscription list (where shown by square brackets) stating that they were omitted from the edition of the charter quoted in the third edition of the Histoire Générale de Languedoc[414]. Stasser suggests that "Petrus episcopus et comes" who subscribed the 979 charter may have been Pierre de Melgueil bishop of Maguelonne, who would have been Adelais's brother[415]. "Roggarius comes…cum coniuge comitissa Adalaice seu Regimundo sobole atque Bernardo sobole" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Hilaire by charter dated Aug 981[416]. "Rotgerius comes et marchio cum coniuge comitissa Adalaisse atque cum prole Regimundo Barnardoque" donated property with the abbey of Saint-Hilaire by charter dated 1 Nov 984[417]. "Rogerius et uxor mea Adaleiz" donated "alodum nostrum…in pago Tolosano in terminio Podagense in villa…Valle" to the abbey of Lézat by charter dated Dec 987[418]. "Rodgarius comes et uxor mea Aladaiz" donated property to the abbey of Lézat by charter dated Aug [1001], signed by "Ramundo, Bernardo, Petrone"[419]. "Rogerius comes et conjux mea Adalaizis comitissa" donated property to Saint-Hilaire, including property which "frater meus Oddo comes habuit", for the soul of "fratris mei Oddoni comitis" and for "filio nostro Regimundo comite", by charter dated Apr 1011, signed by "…Bernardus et dominus Petrus…comites…"[420].

Comte Roger & his wife had five children:

1. ARSINDE de Carcassonne (965-after 993). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. "Dominus Willelmus vicecomes Biterrensis", on leaving on pilgrimage for Rome, and "uxor sua Arsindis" relinquished claims in favour of the abbey of Saint-Thibéry by charter dated 28 Feb 990[421]. Under his testament dated 990, "Guillelmus vicecomes" bequeathed Agde to "uxori suæ Arsindis vicecomitissa"[422]. "Guillelmus vicecomes et uxor mea…Arsindis" exchanged property with Matfred Bishop of Béziers by charter dated 17 Aug 994[423]. m as his second wife, GUILLAUME [II] Vicomte de Béziers, son of RAINARD Vicomte de Béziers & his wife Garsinde [de Carcassonne] ([945]-after 21 Jul 1007).

2. RAYMOND ROGER de Carcassonne (-before Apr 1011). "Rodgarius comes…cum Adalissa comitissa conjuge mea et Regimundo sobole" donated property "alodem meum de Corniliano" to the monastery of Saint-Hilaire, Carcassonne by charter dated 979[424]. “Rogerius comes”, under his testament dated to [1002], divided his properties, “ad Raimundo filio meo…civitatem Carcassonam cum ipso comitatu carcassense…[et] Redas castellum cum suo comitatu…et ipsa tertia parte de comitatu Cominico”[425]. He succeeded as Comte de Carcassonne.

- see below.

3. BERNARD ROGER de Carcassonne (summer 981-[22 Aug 1036/38]). "Roggarius comes…cum coniuge comitissa Adalaice seu Regimundo sobole atque Bernardo sobole" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Hilaire by charter dated Aug 981[426]. “Rogerius comes”, under his testament dated to [1002], divided his properties, “ad Bernardo filio meo…comitatu de Cosoragno…castello de Fuxo”[427]. He succeeded in 1012 as Comte de Couserans and (part) Carcassonne, Seigneur du pays de Foix. He succeeded as Comte de Bigorre, de iure uxoris.

- COMTES de FOIX.

4. PIERRE ROGER de Carcassonne (-1 Aug 1050). "Rodgarius comes et uxor mea Aladaiz" donated property to the abbey of Lézat by charter dated Aug [1001], signed by "Ramundo, Bernardo, Petrone"[428]. “Rogerius comes”, under his testament dated to [1002], divided his properties, “ad Raimundo filio meo…civitatem Carcassonam cum ipso comitatu carcassense…[et] Redas castellum cum suo comitatu…et ipsa tertia parte de comitatu Cominico” except for certain abbeys given to “filio meo Petrone”[429]. "Rogerius comes et conjux mea Adalaizis comitissa" donated property to Saint-Hilaire, including property which "frater meus Oddo comes habuit", for the soul of "fratris mei Oddoni comitis" and for "filio nostro Regimundo comite", by charter dated Apr 1011, signed by "…Bernardus et dominus Petrus…comites…"[430]. Bishop of Gerona. “Petrus episcopus” donated property “per præceptum domini Rodgerii comitis patris mei et mater mea…Adalais comitissa” by charter dated 13 Dec 1027[431].

5. ERMESINDE de Carcassonne (-1 Mar 1058). Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 2 Sep 1019 which names “Raymondus…comes Borreli comitis proles” and by which “Ermisindi…coniux eius comitissa, filia…comitis Carcasonensis Rodegarii” records her husband´s burial “infra canonicalem claustram S. Crucis sedis” and confirms a donation by “femina…Bellazez uxor quæ fuit Sesemundi fratris Seniofredi Gerundensis vicecomitis”, with the consent of “filio suo domno Barengario marchione comite…Amato vicecomite Gerundense…”[432]. "Remundus comes et marchio, Ermensides comitissa" donated property to Saint-Victor, Marseille by charter dated 11 Jun 996[433]. "Ermessindis comitissa et Amato de castro Surice et Sunifredo de Riorubio, Gondebaldus de Besora, Lobeto de Celra" signed a document dated 12 Nov 1018 as executors of "condam Remundo comite et marchio"[434]. Regent during the minority of her son until early 1020s. She acquired considerable power during her regency, quarrelling with her son. She continued to be a disruptive influence in Catalonia until her death[435]. The testament of "Ermesindis comitissa", dated 25 Sep 1057, names "domnum Raymundum Berengarium comitem nepotem meum…domna Almodis comitissa coniuge vestra"[436]. The codicil of "domna Ermesindis comitissa", dated 6 Mar 1057 (O.S.), names "Guillermo Berengarii suo nepoti…Sancio suo nepoti…Bernardo Berengarii suo nepoti"[437]. m ([990/91]) RAMON BORRELL I Comte de Barcelona, son of BORRELL [II] Comte de Barcelona & his first wife Ledgarde [de Toulouse] ([971/26 May 972]-25 Feb 1017).

Source: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#RaymondRogerCarcassonnedied1011A -------------------- Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges1 b. circa 945, d. after April 1011

Father Arnaldo, comte de Comminges et de Couserans2 b. circa 920, d. circa 957 Mother Arsinda, comtesse de Carcassone2 b. circa 915

    Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the father of Bernard Roger I, comte de Couserans, de Foix et de Bigorre; the son of Roger I, comte de Carcassone, and Adelais, sister of Baldwin de Pons.3 Also called conde de Carcasona Roger I de Carcasona.4 Comte de Comminges at Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France.3 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the father of Ermesinde, regente de Barcelona; the daughter of Roger I, comte de Carcassone, and Adelais, sister of Baldwin de Pons.3 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the successor of Arsinda, comtesse de Carcassone; comtesse de Carcassone.5,3 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the successor of Arsinda, comtesse de Carcassone; heiress of Rasez. Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the successor of Arnaldo, comte de Comminges et de Couserans; Count of Carcassonne.6 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was born circa 945. He was the successor of Arnaldo, comte de Comminges et de Couserans; Count of Couserans.3 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the successor of Arnaldo, comte de Comminges et de Couserans; Count of Comminges.3 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the son of Arnaldo, comte de Comminges et de Couserans and Arsinda, comtesse de Carcassone.2 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the successor of Arnaldo, comte de Comminges et de Couserans; Lord of Foix.7 Comte de Rasez between 957 and April 1011.3 Count of Carcassonne at Aude, Languedoc-Roussillon, France, between 957 and April 1011.3,6 Count of Couserans at Ariège, Midi-Pyrénées, France, between 957 and April 1011.3 Lord of Foix at Ariège, Midi-Pyrénées, France, between 957 and April 1011.3,7 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges married Adelais de Pons before April 970; Her 2nd (widow).1,3 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges died after April 1011.8,3 He was the predecessor of Bernard Roger I, comte de Couserans, de Foix et de Bigorre; comte de Couserans.3 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the predecessor of Bernard Roger I, comte de Couserans, de Foix et de Bigorre; 1st Count of Foix.3,7 Roger I "el Viejo", comte de Comminges was the predecessor of Roger II, comte de Carcassone; comte de Carcassonne.3,6

Family Adelais de Pons b. circa 945, d. after April 1011 Children Roger II, comte de Carcassone b. c 9713 Ermesinde, regente de Barcelona+ b. c 972, d. 1 Mar 10571 Pedro Roger, évêque de Gerona b. c 974, d. 1 Aug 10503 Bernard Roger I, comte de Couserans, de Foix et de Bigorre+ b. c 990, d. c 1038 Citations [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 291-35. [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 291-36. [S438] Theroff's Royal Genealogies, online http://pages.prodigy.net/ptheroff/, Foix.txt. [S882] Armerías ilustres, online http://members.xoom.com/chema, Condado de Cataluña. [S438] Theroff's Royal Genealogies, online http://pages.prodigy.net/ptheroff/, barclna.txt. [S261] Regnal Chronologies, online http://www.hostkingdom.net/regindex.html, France, Carcassonne. [S261] Regnal Chronologies, online http://www.hostkingdom.net/regindex.html, France, Foix. [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 291-35, says "1019". -------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_I_of_Carcassonne

Roger I of Carcassonne

Roger I of Carcassonne (died 1012), also known as Roger II of Cominges the Elder, was the count of Carcassonne, Couserans and Comminges.

Associated to the government of Comminges in 957, he inherited the county of Couserans in 983 at the death of his father Aznar II. At around 1000 he inherited the county of Couserans by his mother the county of Couserans. In 969 he married Adelaide of Rouergue.

After sharing the government with by his sons Ramon Roger in Carcassonne, part of the county of Couserans and of the county of Razès and Bernard I Roger in Couserans, he was succeeded by his nephew William I of Carcassonne. His son Peter Roger was Bishop of Girona in 1010-1050, while his daughter Ermesinde married Ramon Borrell, count of Barcelona