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Roger I seigneur de Montgomery de Montgomery, I

Nicknames: "Roger I Montgomery", "Seigneur of /Montgomery/", "Viscount of Heimes"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: St-Germain-de-Montgomery, Calvados, Normandy, France
Death: Died in Exiled, Paris, Ile-de-France, France
Place of Burial: France
Immediate Family:

Son of Hugues de Montgomery and Sibell Senfrie de Crepon
Husband of Josceline de Ponteaudemer
Father of Hugues de Montgomery, vicomte d'Hiémois; Robert de Montgomery; Guillaume de Montgomery; Gilbert 'the Constable' de Montgomery and Roger II de Montgomery, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury

Occupation: Sieur, de Montgommery, Comte, de Shrewsbury, Vicomte, d'Hiémois
Managed by: Christian Aaron PERKS
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About Roger de Montgomery, seigneur de Montgomery

Roger I de Montgommery (Montgomerie, Montgomery)

Parents: (uncertain)

Spouse: Josceline, Sainfrida' daughter

Children:

1. Hugues

2. Robert

3. Roger

4. Guillaume (William)

5. Gilbert

6. parent of Amiera

LINKS

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Montgomery

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MEDIEVAL LANDS

F. SEIGNEURS de MONTGOMMERY

ROGER [I] de Montgommery, son of --- (-[before 1048]). Seigneur de Montgommery and Vicomte de l'Hiémois. He witnessed a charter of Robert I Duke of Normandy for the abbey of Saint Wandrille dated [1031/32]. In [1028/35] he restored to the Abbey of Jumièges the market at Vimoutiers which he had taken from the monks[380]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Roger de Montgomeri" was exiled to Paris "à cause de sa perfidie" in the early years of the reign of Guillaume II Duke of Normandy[381].

m JOSCELINE, daughter of --- & his wife Sainsfrida [Senfrie][382] . Josceline, her husband and her mother are named in a letter of Ives Bishop of Chartres to Henry I King of England dated 1114 which explains the consanguinity between the king and Hugues de Châteauneuf, who wanted to marry one of the king's illegitimate daughters[383].

Roger & his wife had [six] children:

1. HUGUES de Montgommery (-killed in battle 7 Feb[384] [1035/before 1048], bur Troarn384). Guillaume de Jumièges names (in order) "Hugues, Robert, Roger, Guillaume et Gilbert" as the five sons of Roger de Montgommery, commenting that they remained in Normandy after their father was exiled "se livrant à toutes sortes de crimes"[385]. He witnessed his father's charter for the abbey of Jumièges380. He was killed during the troubles in Normandy during the minority of Duke Guillaume II[386]. Vicomte d'Hiémois. [m JOSCELINE de Bolbec, daughter of OSBERN de Bolbec & his wife Wevia ---. Josceline and her marriage are shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[387]. This is presumably based on Robert de Torigny, continuation of William of Jumièges[388], the unreliability of this part of whose chronicle is discussed in the Complete Peerage[389]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that one of the nieces of Gunnor, mistress of Richard I Comte [de Normandie], married "Hugues de Montgommeri"[390]. There must be some doubt about this as her husband would have been her first cousin.]

2. ROBERT de Montgommery (-before his father). Guillaume de Jumièges names (in order) "Hugues, Robert, Roger, Guillaume et Gilbert" as the five sons of Roger de Montgommery, commenting that they remained in Normandy after their father was exiled "se livrant à toutes sortes de crimes"[391].

3. ROGER [II] de Montgommery (-Shrewsbury 27 Jul 1094, bur Shrewsbury Abbey). Guillaume de Jumièges names (in order) "Hugues, Robert, Roger, Guillaume et Gilbert" as the five sons of Roger de Montgommery, commenting that they remained in Normandy after their father was exiled "se livrant à toutes sortes de crimes"[392]. He succeeded his father as Seigneur de Montgommery, Vicomte d'Hiémois. He was created Earl of Shrewsbury in 1074. Sire d'Alençon.

- see below.

4. GUILLAUME de Montgommery (-killed in battle [1035/before 1048]). Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Osbern, intendant de la maison du prince [Guillaume II Duke of Normandy] et fils d'Herfast" was murdered at Vandreuil in the early years of the duke's reign by "Guillaume fils de Roger de Montgomeri"[393]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that Guillaume was murdered soon after on the orders of Barnon de Glote to avenge the murder of Osbern[394].

5. GILBERT de Montgommery (-murdered [1064]). Guillaume de Jumièges names (in order) "Hugues, Robert, Roger, Guillaume et Gilbert" as the five sons of Roger de Montgommery, commenting that they remained in Normandy after their father was exiled "se livrant à toutes sortes de crimes"[395]. Brother of Roger de Montgommery according to Orderic Vitalis, who recorded that he was poisoned by Mabile de Bellême his brother's wife[396].

6. [--- . The identity of Amieria´s parents is not known. She is shown as the daughter of Gilbert in Europäische Stammtafeln[397], but this may be no more than speculation. The word "neptis" may indicate a more remote family relationship than niece.

m ---.]

One child:

a) [AMIERIA . Orderic Vitalis reports that Roger de Montgommery married "Amieriam neptem suam" to "Warino autem Calvo" who was "a man small in body but great in spirit" whom he made sheriff of Shrewsbury[398]. Her second marriage is confirmed by a manuscript which recites the history of the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey and records donations including that of "Reginaldus frater Warini vicecomes…villam…Lega", adding in a later passage that "Reinaldus…post mortem Warini vicecomitis uxorem illius, cum honore, suscepit"[399]. Eyton interprets "frater" in this document as meaning "brother-in-law or rather husband of Warin´s widow"[400] but, assuming that the extract quoted above reflects the facts, such an interpretation is unnecessary as Rainald was both Warin´s brother and second husband of Warin´s widow. "Earl Roger" confirmed the donation to St Evroul by "Rainald de Bailal and Amieria his wife, my niece" by charter dated to [1086/94][401]. The date of death of Amieria´s first husband and the date of her second marriage is indicated by Domesday Book which records "Raynaldus" as "vicecomes" of Shropshire[402].

m firstly WARIN [Guérin] "the Bald/le Chauve", son of --- (-before 1086). A manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records donations including by "Warinus vicecomes…in villa…Tugfort" and “uxor…illius post eius obitum…domum…in civitate”, with the consent of "filiis suis"[403].

m secondly (before 1086) her first husband´s brother, RAINALD de Bailleul, son of ---. "Rainaldus" donated “Dodefort” to Shrewsbury abbey for the soul of "Warini antecessoris sui"[404]. Domesday Book records "Raynaldus" as "vicecomes" of Shropshire[405]. "Earl Roger" confirmed the donation to St Evroul by "Rainald de Bailal and Amieria his wife, my niece" by charter dated to [1086/94][406]. He must have ceased to have been Sheriff in the early 1100s as a manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records that "Alanus filius Fladaldi" held “honorem vicecomitis Warini” after "filium eius"[407].]

Amieria & her first husband had one child:

i) HUGH (-[1102/10]). A manuscript reciting the history of the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records donations including that of "Hugo filius eiusdem Warini"[408]. Sheriff of Shropshire. A manuscript reciting the foundation of Shrewsbury abbey records that "Alanus filius Fladaldi" held “honorem vicecomitis Warini” after "filium eius"[409]. As the death of Alan FitzFlaald is dated to before 1114, it is assumed that Hugh died early in the 1100s, probably without issue.

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EARLS of SHREWSBURY 1074-1102 (MONTGOMMERY)

1. ROGER [II] de Montgommery, son of ROGER [I] de Montgommery Seigneur de Montgommery and Vicomte de l'Hiémois & his wife Josceline --- (-Shrewsbury 27 Jul 1094, bur Shrewsbury Abbey[757]).

He succeeded his father as Seigneur de Montgommery, Vicomte d'Hiémois. He remained in Normandy at the time of the Norman invasion of England in 1066 to assist Duchess Mathilde to govern the duchy[758], but accompanied King William I to England in Dec 1067.

Orderic Vitalis records that King William gave him "first of all Arundel castle and the town of Chichester"[759], afterwards creating him Earl of Shrewsbury [1/4] Dec 1074, presumably with the intention of strengthening the defence of the western part of the country against Welsh incursions. As "Rogerus comes Salosberiensis" he witnessed a charter of King William I giving the barony of Plessis to the church of Bayeux dated 24 Dec 1074[760]. Sire d'Alençon. Earl of Shropshire and Shrewsbury. He allied himself with Robert Duke of Normandy at the time of the latter's rebellion against King William II in 1089[761].

a) ROBERT de Montgommery "de Bellême" ([1052/56]-[Wareham Castle] 1 or 8 May 1118 or [1131 or later], bur [Wareham Castle]).

He is referred to as his mother's "first-born son" by Orderic Vitalis, who says that his "name is now a byword for his cruelty to the wretched peasantry"[762]. He witnessed a charter for Saint Martin de Sées with his brother Roger, and a charter for Saint Aubin of Angers in [1060/62] without Roger[763], suggesting that the latter had died by then. He succeeded his mother in 1079 as Sire de Bellême et d'Alençon. He rebelled against William II King of England in 1088, crossed to England but was besieged at Rochester Castle and in Jun 1088 forced to surrender[764]. He succeeded his father in 1094 in all his possessions in Normandy[765]. He succeeded his younger brother in 1098 as Earl of Shrewsbury after a payment of £3000[766]. He succeeded his father-in-law in Oct 1100 as Comte de Ponthieu. Florence of Worcester records that "Scrobbesbyriensis comes Rotbertus de Beleasmo" rebelled against Henry I King of England in [1101], was deprived of all his honours and estates in England, and retired to Normandy[767]. The Annals of Margan record that “Robertus comes de Belesmo” was expelled from England in 1102 “cum fratre suo Arnulfo”[768].

Florence of Worcester records that "Rotbertus de Beleasm" fought with Robert Duke of Normandy against King Henry I at Tinchebrai in [1106], was captured, but later escaped and fled[769]. He helped Helias de Saint-Saens protect Guillaume, son of Robert "Curthose" ex-Duke of Normandy, after Henry I King of England ordered the arrest of the boy[770]. He was arrested in 1112, imprisoned at Cherbourg and all his lands and honours forfeited. He was imprisoned at Wareham Castle, Dorset from Jul 1113[771]. The Annals of Margan record the death “Kal Mai” in 1118 of “Robertus comes de Belesme”[772]. The Pipe Roll of 1130 records payments under Dorset and Wiltshire for the maintenance of Robert de Bellême[773].

b) HUGUES de Montgommery ([1053/59]-Anglesey 31 Jul 1098, bur [17 Aug 1098] Shrewsbury Abbey[774]). His parentage is given by Orderic Vitalis, who lists him second among his father's sons by his first marriage[775]. He succeeded his father in 1094 as Earl of Shrewsbury and to all his lands in England and Wales[776]. Florence of Worcester records that "comites Hugo de Legecastra et Hugo de Scrobbesbyria" invaded Anglesey in [1098], mutilating or massacring many of the inhabitants of the island, and that "comes Hugo de Scrobbesbyrie" was killed by an arrow discharged by Magnus King of Norway during a raid on the Welsh coast[777]. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle records that Hugh was killed in Anglesey "by pirates from oversea"[778].

According to Orderic Vitalis, he was transfixed with a spear by Magnus brother of the king of Norway on the seashore and died instantly[779]. "Arnulf son of earl Roger" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Martin, Sees for the souls of "his father Roger and his brother Hugh who was slain that year" by charter dated 27 Aug 1098[780].

c) other children: see NORMAN NOBILITY.

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Roger I de Montgomery, who was the first to use the surname of Montgomery, was called one of the most powerful Norman Barons at the end of the tenth century. He died in Paris about 1040 A.D. He married Josceline, daughter of Senfrie, sister of the wife of Richard I. His sons were Hugo who died before 1050, Robert and William who both also died before 1050, Gilbert who was poisoned by his sister-in-law, Mabile de Belleme in 1063 A.D. and our ancestor Roger de Montgomery II, Earl of Arundel and Shrewsbury.

"Origin and History of the Montgomerys" by B.G. Montgomery of Sweden.

ROGER I DE MONTGOMERY

Gormeric's eldest son, William, had a son Hugo. His son Roger de Montgomery is the first member of the family of whom one knows with certainty that he used the surname. The French historian, the Vicomte Du Motey, calls Roger 'one of the most powerful Norman Barons at the end of the tenth

century.'

William the Bastard, the name of the Norman Duke before he conquered England and gained the prouder surname of the Conqueror, was the son of Robert II and Arlette or Herleve, the daughter of one Fulbert, tanner of Falaise. Judging by his great care of churches and monasteries, Roger must have been a very religious man. No wonder, therefore, that after Robert's death he refused to recognize William, born out of wedlock, as the legitimate heir to the throne. He and his sons Hugo and Robert organized the opposition against the young Duke, whose guardian was Allan, Duke of Brittany. They struggled against heavy odds, since the Duke's supporters were far more numerous, but Montgomery defended himself with great courage and tenacity behind the walls of his castle. Allan died at Vimoutiers during the siege, but in the end Montgomery had to surrender. He was banished from the country and went to France, where he was well received by Henry I, who shared his views. Roger died in Paris about 1040. According to the Cartulary of Troarn, his wife Josceline was still alive in 1068.

During Roger's exile his sons remained in Normandy, continuing to fight for what they considered a just cause. This struggle eventually developed into sheer vendetta. Allan's successor as guardian of the young Duke was Osbern de Crepon, the son of Herfast, brother of Duchess Gunnor. He was a cousin of Richard II and also of Roger de Montgomery's wife Josceline. In spite of this kinship Osbern pitilessly persecuted Roger's sons, and one of them, William, determined to capture the Duke, who lived with Osbern in the strongly fortified castle of Vaudreuil. The guardian watched like a hawk over his precious life, but one night William and his confederates managed to penetrate within the castle to the Duke's chamber. He was not there, but Osbern, whom they found alone, was summarily strangled. Ordericus says that on this occasion the Duke's life was saved by his uncle Gautier, brother of Arlette, who had hidden him in his bed. Some days later one of Osbern's men, Bamous de Glos, surprised William in his quarters and killed him during his sleep. Now the vendetta was accomplished and the way open to reconciliation between the Duke's party and the Montgomerys.

-------------------- The symbol of advance into Wales was the castle which Earl Roger built at Montgomery, a typical motte and bailey, of which the earthworks still survive. To distinguish it from the later stone castle built at Montgomery by Hubert de Burgh, it came to be known as Hen Domen Castle- the old mound. It was a key point in the natural communication into mid-Wales, and beyond that westwards to Ceredigion. The gains which Earl Roger and his commanders made were compact and, with the exception of Arwystli, did not drive deeply into Wales, but they extended over a long stretch of the frontier.


  1. 'Oft on the mouldering Keep by night
  2. Earl Roger takes his stand,
  3. With the sword that shone at Hastings' fight,
  4. Firm grasped in his red, right hand ! '

This is how an ancient poem begins about Roger de Montgomery who it was believed had fought alongside Duke William at Hastings. In fact Roger de Montgomery wasn't at the Battle of Hastings, but was left at home to look after Normandy for William while he was in England. He contributed greatly to the invasion force and was to be richly rewarded for his loyal services.


Earl Roger de Montgomery founded the Arundel Castle on Christmas Day 1067. It was after King William had held his Christmas Court at Gloucester and awarded Montgomery the Earldom, that he ordered him to build a castle on the Arun to protect the inland reaches. Roger de Montgomery was already an extremely powerful man in his native Normandy and had been a close friend of William's since William was a teenager as he was his cousin. He was present at the Council of Lillebonne in 1066, and agreed to contribute 60 ships to aid the invasion plans of England. He returned with William from Normandy in 1067 and he was summoned to attend Chrismas at Gloucester with the king where he was awarded his honours as one of William's most trusted men.


Earl Roger was succeeded at Arundel by his son, Robert, known as Robert de Belleme.


John Fitzalan of Clun, who had married Hugh de Albini's daughter Isobel, acquired the Castle and Honour of Arundel. The Fitzalan's were to hold the castle in an almost uninterrupted line until 1555 when Mary Fitzalan, last of the family, married Thomas, 4th Duke of Norfolk, thereby carrying Arundel into the Howard family where it remains to this day. -------------------- About

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Generation One

1. ROGER1 DE MONTGOMERY was born between 862 and 1008, and died between 921 and 1118. [12]

Child: + 2 i. ROGER2, b. before 1022.

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Generation Two

2. ROGER2 DE MONTGOMERY (Roger1), son of (1) Roger1 MONTGOMERY, was born before 1022, and died between 1022 and 1132. [12]

Child: + 3 i. HUGUES3; m. (AK-11) JOSCELINE DE PONTAUDEMER in 994.

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