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Nicknames: "Tead", "Teed", "Ted"
Birthplace: Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
Death: Died in Woburn, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Occupation: Tailor; Proprietor, Woburn, MA.
Managed by: Thomas Edward Shirley
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About John Tidd, II

First man in Woburn to bear a military title. He could not have been in King Philip's War 1675 to 1676 since he died in 1657.

http://www.treetreetree.org.uk/Tidd.htm

SGT. JOHN TIDD of Woburn

John Tidd  embarked from Yarmouth, Isle of Wight England to the Massachusetts Bay Colony on 12 May 1637. It is said as the servant of Samuel Greenleaf and at age 19, but that is an old mixup with another John Tidd, who went wiith Samuel Greenleaf to Exeter, New Hampshire.

Sgt Tidd died in Woburn MA on 24 April 1657 with a will made 15 days earlier naming wife Alice; daughters Mary and Elizabeth; and son John Tidd.

Married

  1. 1616 in Woburn Eng to Margaret Greenleaf (b.1595 Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, Eng d.1641 Woburn MA)
  2. after 1641 to Alice (unknown), who married second William Mann of Cambridge, as his second wife, on 11 Jun 1657.

He was in Charlestown in 1637 and admitted to the church in Charlestown on 10 Mar 1639. In Dec 1640, John was an original proprietor of Woburn and sargeant of the trainband there in 1643.

In his will, John Tidd calls himself a tailer. [Ref] He was admitted freeman on 10 May 1643. [Ref]

Snow [Ref] says that John Dane wrote that the Mr. Tead or Tidd who later settled in Charlestown was a a tailor in Hertford in about 1630 and was a young man then. In his memoirs, John Dane writes that, while in Hertford, "I then Rout with mr. Tead that lives at Charlestoune. He was a young man then. He and I was going to a dansing on nite, and it began to thunder, and I told him I doubted we were not on our waie; and he and I went back againe." [Ref]

John signed his will on 9 Apr 1656; it was proved on 10 Nov 1656. [Ref] He mentions his grandson Thomas Fuller. [Ref]

John had a presumed brother Joshua Tidd, who was admitted to the Charlestown church on 10 Mar 1639 -- the same day as John. Joshua died in 1678, age 71. He married first Sarah Unknown. She died in 1677. He married second Rhoda Unknown. Joshua owned a small vessel for fur trading, several houses and a salt house for curing fish. [Ref]

Some researchers have suggested that John was the 19-year-old servant who came to New England with Samuel Greenfield in 1637; but, this is impossible given the marriage dates of his daughters.

A good discussion of John Tidd is found on the Ye Olde Woburn website.

Children of John Tidd and Margaret Greenleaf

  1. Hannah Tidd married William Savell in 1641. [Ref]
  2. John Tidd was born about 1625. He died on 12 Apr 1703, age 78, in Cambridge Farms (Lexington). [Ref] He married Rebecca Wood on 14 Apr 1650 in Woburn. [Ref]
  3. Samuel Tidd [Ref] died in 1651 [Ref] in Woburn. [Ref] He married Sarah Unknown. [Ref] She married second John Southwick. [Ref]
  4. Mary Tidd married Francis Kendall, "alias Miles" on 24 Dec 1644 [Ref] in Woburn. [Ref]
  5. Elizabeth Tidd married Thomas Fuller 1.
  6. Joseph Tidd [Ref]
  7. James Tidd [Ref]

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http://www.treetreetree.org.uk/Tidd.htm

SGT. JOHN TIDD (abt 1600 - 1656) of Woburn

Parents: Unkown

Sgt. John Tidd was born about 1600. [Ref] He died on 24 Apr 1656. [Ref] He married Margaret Greenleaf in 1621. [Ref] She died in 1651 in Woburn. [Ref] He married second Alice Unknown. [Ref] Alice married second William Mann of Cambridge, as his second wife, on 11 Jun 1657. [Ref]

He was in Charlestown in 1637. [Ref] He was admitted to the church in Charlestown on 10 Mar 1639. [Ref] In Dec 1640, John was an original proprietor of Woburn. [Ref] He was sargeant of the trainband there in 1643. [Ref]

In his will, John Tidd calls himself a tailer. [Ref] He was admitted freeman on 10 May 1643. [Ref]

Snow [Ref] says that John Dane wrote that the Mr. Tead or Tidd who later settled in Charlestown was a a tailor in Hertford in about 1630 and was a young man then. In his memoirs, John Dane writes that, while in Hertford, "I then Rout with mr. Tead that lives at Charlestoune. He was a young man then. He and I was going to a dansing on nite, and it began to thunder, and I told him I doubted we were not on our waie; and he and I went back againe." [Ref]

John signed his will on 9 Apr 1656; it was proved on 10 Nov 1656. [Ref] He mentions his grandson Thomas Fuller. [Ref]

John had a presumed brother Joshua Tidd, who was admitted to the Charlestown church on 10 Mar 1639 -- the same day as John. Joshua died in 1678, age 71. He married first Sarah Unknown. She died in 1677. He married second Rhoda Unknown. Joshua owned a small vessel for fur trading, several houses and a salt house for curing fish. [Ref]

Some researchers have suggested that John was the 19-year-old servant who came to New England with Samuel Greenfield in 1637; but, this is impossible given the marriage dates of his daughters.

A good discussion of John Tidd is found on the Ye Olde Woburn website.

Children of John Tidd and Margaret Greenleaf

  1. Hannah Tidd married William Savell in 1641. [Ref]
  2. John Tidd was born about 1625. He died on 12 Apr 1703, age 78, in Cambridge Farms (Lexington). [Ref] He married Rebecca Wood on 14 Apr 1650 in Woburn. [Ref]
  3. Samuel Tidd [Ref] died in 1651 [Ref] in Woburn. [Ref] He married Sarah Unknown. [Ref] She married second John Southwick. [Ref]
  4. Mary Tidd married Francis Kendall, "alias Miles" on 24 Dec 1644 [Ref] in Woburn. [Ref]
  5. Elizabeth Tidd married Thomas Fuller 1.
  6. Joseph Tidd [Ref]
  7. James Tidd [Ref]

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SGT. JOHN TIDD (abt 1600 - 1656) of Woburn

Parents: Unkown

Sgt. John Tidd was born about 1600. [Ref] He died on 24 Apr 1656. [Ref] He married Margaret Greenleaf in 1621. [Ref] She died in 1651 in Woburn. [Ref] He married second Alice Unknown. [Ref] Alice married second William Mann of Cambridge, as his second wife, on 11 Jun 1657. [Ref]

He was in Charlestown in 1637. [Ref] He was admitted to the church in Charlestown on 10 Mar 1639. [Ref] In Dec 1640, John was an original proprietor of Woburn. [Ref] He was sargeant of the trainband there in 1643. [Ref]

In his will, John Tidd calls himself a tailer. [Ref] He was admitted freeman on 10 May 1643. [Ref]

Snow [Ref] says that John Dane wrote that the Mr. Tead or Tidd who later settled in Charlestown was a a tailor in Hertford in about 1630 and was a young man then. In his memoirs, John Dane writes that, while in Hertford, "I then Rout with mr. Tead that lives at Charlestoune. He was a young man then. He and I was going to a dansing on nite, and it began to thunder, and I told him I doubted we were not on our waie; and he and I went back againe." [Ref]

John signed his will on 9 Apr 1656; it was proved on 10 Nov 1656. [Ref] He mentions his grandson Thomas Fuller. [Ref]

John had a presumed brother Joshua Tidd, who was admitted to the Charlestown church on 10 Mar 1639 -- the same day as John. Joshua died in 1678, age 71. He married first Sarah Unknown. She died in 1677. He married second Rhoda Unknown. Joshua owned a small vessel for fur trading, several houses and a salt house for curing fish. [Ref]

Some researchers have suggested that John was the 19-year-old servant who came to New England with Samuel Greenfield in 1637; but, this is impossible given the marriage dates of his daughters.

A good discussion of John Tidd is found on the Ye Olde Woburn website.

Children of John Tidd and Margaret Greenleaf

  1. Hannah Tidd married William Savell in 1641. [Ref]
  2. John Tidd was born about 1625. He died on 12 Apr 1703, age 78, in Cambridge Farms (Lexington). [Ref] He married Rebecca Wood on 14 Apr 1650 in Woburn. [Ref]
  3. Samuel Tidd [Ref] died in 1651 [Ref] in Woburn. [Ref] He married Sarah Unknown. [Ref] She married second John Southwick. [Ref]
  4. Mary Tidd married Francis Kendall, "alias Miles" on 24 Dec 1644 [Ref] in Woburn. [Ref]
  5. Elizabeth Tidd married Thomas Fuller 1.
  6. Joseph Tidd [Ref]
  7. James Tidd [Ref]

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http://www.treetreetree.org.uk/Tidd.htm

SGT. JOHN TIDD (abt 1600 - 1656) of Woburn

Parents: Unkown

Sgt. John Tidd was born about 1600. [Ref] He died on 24 Apr 1656. [Ref] He married Margaret Greenleaf in 1621. [Ref] She died in 1651 in Woburn. [Ref] He married second Alice Unknown. [Ref] Alice married second William Mann of Cambridge, as his second wife, on 11 Jun 1657. [Ref]

He was in Charlestown in 1637. [Ref] He was admitted to the church in Charlestown on 10 Mar 1639. [Ref] In Dec 1640, John was an original proprietor of Woburn. [Ref] He was sargeant of the trainband there in 1643. [Ref]

In his will, John Tidd calls himself a tailer. [Ref] He was admitted freeman on 10 May 1643. [Ref]

Snow [Ref] says that John Dane wrote that the Mr. Tead or Tidd who later settled in Charlestown was a a tailor in Hertford in about 1630 and was a young man then. In his memoirs, John Dane writes that, while in Hertford, "I then Rout with mr. Tead that lives at Charlestoune. He was a young man then. He and I was going to a dansing on nite, and it began to thunder, and I told him I doubted we were not on our waie; and he and I went back againe." [Ref]

John signed his will on 9 Apr 1656; it was proved on 10 Nov 1656. [Ref] He mentions his grandson Thomas Fuller. [Ref]

John had a presumed brother Joshua Tidd, who was admitted to the Charlestown church on 10 Mar 1639 -- the same day as John. Joshua died in 1678, age 71. He married first Sarah Unknown. She died in 1677. He married second Rhoda Unknown. Joshua owned a small vessel for fur trading, several houses and a salt house for curing fish. [Ref]

Some researchers have suggested that John was the 19-year-old servant who came to New England with Samuel Greenfield in 1637; but, this is impossible given the marriage dates of his daughters.

A good discussion of John Tidd is found on the Ye Olde Woburn website.

Children of John Tidd and Margaret Greenleaf

  1. Hannah Tidd married William Savell in 1641. [Ref]
  2. John Tidd was born about 1625. He died on 12 Apr 1703, age 78, in Cambridge Farms (Lexington). [Ref] He married Rebecca Wood on 14 Apr 1650 in Woburn. [Ref]
  3. Samuel Tidd [Ref] died in 1651 [Ref] in Woburn. [Ref] He married Sarah Unknown. [Ref] She married second John Southwick. [Ref]
  4. Mary Tidd married Francis Kendall, "alias Miles" on 24 Dec 1644 [Ref] in Woburn. [Ref]
  5. Elizabeth Tidd married Thomas Fuller 1.
  6. Joseph Tidd [Ref]
  7. James Tidd [Ref]

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aka Tead, Teed

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IMMIGRANT, 1637

Occupation: Tailor, Surveyor of Fences

ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF WOBURN, MA

SERGEANT OF THE TRAINING BAND IN WOBURN, 1643, 1646

John immigrated in 1637 at the age of 19, a servant of Samuel Greenfield. He settled in Charlestown where he purchased the home of Thomas Moulton, then moved to Woburn in 1640 where he became a prominent and prosperous citizen of that community.

"TEAD, TEED, or TED, JOHN, Charlestown 1637, emb. 12 May of that yr. at Yarmouth, aged 19, as serv. of Samuel Greenfield of Norwich, but perhaps was not desir. by his master of acomp.him, aft. reach. this side of the ocean, if, as seems prob. he be the person call. Todd, in Frothingham, p. 88, may have rem. aft. 1640 to Woburn,there was one of the true-spirited petnrs. to the Gen. Ct. 30 Aug. 1653 in fav. of liberty of proph. had w. Margaret, wh. d. 1651, and he d. 24 Apr. 1657. By his will made 15 days bef. we find he had sec. w. Alice, and ds. Mary, and Elizabeth beside gr.ch. Benjamin, Hannah, and ano. d. of one Savil; and John and Samuel Savil, of ano. Thomas Fuller, and John Kendall, also a s. of his own name. See Tidd. Yet one of this name was propound. for freem. in 1664, tho. no more heard of. See 4 Mass. Hist. Coll. I. 101, and Geneal, Reg. XIV. 328." --James Savage

Woburn is pronounced "Wooburn."

WARNING: Two John Tidds came to America about the same time. The second was born in 1619 and immigrated in 1637 from Yarmouth, England, as a servant to Samuel Greenfield.

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  • 'The Kendall family in America (1919)
  • http://www.archive.org/details/kendallfamilyina00clem
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/kendallfamilyina00clem#page/4/mode/1up
  • ' Mary Tidd was a daughter of John Tidd. It is claimed that Francis left England against the wishes of his family, using the name of Miles, until he was settled in this country. Francis was admitted freeman 10 May, 1648. He served the town as selectman, held numerous other offices and was looked upon as "a gentleman of great respectability and influence." He owned and operated a corn mill in Woburn, being a miller by trade. The mill now on the old Kendall homestead was built by Samuel Kendall in 1700 and is near the location of the first mill built bv Francis.
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  • 'Historic homes and institutions and genealogical and personal ..., Volume 2 By Ellery Bicknell Crane
  • Historic homes and institutions and genealogical and personal ..., Volume 2 By Ellery Bicknell Crane
  • Pg. 424
  • Francis Kendall, above mentioned, was in Charlestown, Massachusetts, prior to 1640. He was a large landholder and a miller by occupatin. He died in 1708. He married, at Woburn, Massachusetts, December 24, 1644, Mary Tidd, and their sons, born in Woburn, Massachusetts, were: John, July 2, 1646; Thomas, January 10, 1648; Samuel, March 8, 1659; Jacob, January 25, 1660. 'John Tidd, Tead, Ted or Teed, embarked May 12, 1637, at Yarmouth England, aged nineteen, as servant of Samuel Greenfield, of Norwich. Was of Charlestown that year, subscribed there December, 1640, "Town Orders" for Woburn, taxed at Woburn 1645, chosen surveyor of fences 1646. HIs wife Margaret died in 1651. He had second wife Alice, daughters Mary and Elizabeth, and a son John. His daughter Mary was doubtless wife of Francis Kendall.
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  • 'John Tidd
  • 'M, b. 18 October 1594, d. 24 April 1656
  • Father John Tidd b. c 1563
  • Mother Anna (Agnes) Dane b. c 1563
  • ' John Tidd was christened on 18 October 1594 at Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England. He married Alice Clayton on 21 October 1620 at Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England. John Tidd died on 24 April 1656 at Woburn, Middlesex, MA, at age 61.
  • 'Family Alice Clayton b. c 1594
  • Children
    • Mary Tidd+ b. 23 Nov 1620, d. 20 May 1676
    • Elizabeth Tidd+ b. 19 Sep 1626, d. Jun 1649
  • http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2344.htm#i70459
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  • 'New England marriages prior to 1700 By Clarence Almon Torrey, Elizabeth Petty Bentley
  • http://books.google.com/books?id=mOgK8dM9qqUC&pg=PA742&lpg=PA742&dq=Rebecca+Wood+1625&source=bl&ots=ZgBjfgMGRi&sig=ZoDBtoiIt5ec6YOWEiSw6OlFrXE&hl=en&ei=2l4xTtepDMbUiALh_8yMBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CC4Q6AEwBDgU#v=onepage&q=Rebecca%20Wood%201625&f=false
  • Pg. 742
  • TIDD, Daniel & Lydia CARTER/CARLEY/KERLEY (1672-1727; 21 Dec 1694; Cambridge/Woburn
  • 'TIDD, John1 (-1656) & 1/wf Margaret [GREENLEAF?] (-1651); in Eng, b 1621?; Charlestown/Woburn

TIDD, John (1625-1703) & Rebecca WOOD (ca 1625-1717); 14 Apr 1650; Woburn/Lexington

  • 'TIDD, John1 (-1657) & 2/wf Alice [TEEL], m/2 William MANN 1657; b 1656; Charlestown
  • TIDD, John (1655-1743) & Elizabeth FIFIELD (1657-1732); 12 Jun 1678; Charlestown/Woburn
  • TEED, John (-1687) & ?Mary JENNNINGS?; Huntington, L I
  • TIDD, Joseph (1662-1730) & 1/wf Mary ? (-1594/5, ae 23); b 1694?; Lexington
  • TIDD, Joshua (1607-1678) & 1/wf Sarah ? (-1677); b 1639; Charlestown
  • TIDD, Joshua (1607-1678) 2/wf Rhoda ( ? ) (GORE) (REMINGTON) [PORTER] (-1693, ae 86), w John, w John, w Edward; aft 15 Oct 1677; Charlestown
  • TID, Samuel (-1642) & Sarah ? (-1658), m/2 John SOUTHWICK aft May 1642; b 1642; Salem
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  • ' The Pioneers of Massachusetts, a Descriptive List, Drawn from Records of the ... By Charles Henry Pope
  • http://books.google.com/books?id=k___uh7sQAkC&pg=PA448&lpg=PA448&dq=Alice+Teel+Tidd&source=bl&ots=v54PbxxM9W&sig=TDqp1CAcPSXWlBIS-RzDzdesooY&hl=en&ei=fmgxToWrIanKiALJhuyvBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CEoQ6AEwCTg8#v=onepage&q&f=false
  • Pg. 448
  • TEAD, TEED, TEDD, TIDD, TYDD,
  • ' John, tailor, came early. Settled at Charlestown, propr. 1637. Rem. to Woburn, 1640. Sold land in 1652. Town officer. Petitioned Gen. Court regarding land in 1648. Ch. John, Jr., propr. also in 1646; John, ae. 19, servant to Samuel Greenfield, weaver, who came from Norwich, Eng. May 12, 1637, I think; Samuel, Mary, (m. Dec. 24, 1644, Francis Wyman,) Elizabeth, (m. Jan. 13, 1643, Thomas Fuller). Wife Margaret d. 1651. He d. April 24, 1656.
  • ' Will dated 9 (2) prob. 10 (9) 1656, beq. to wife Alice, son John, daus. Mary and Elizabeth; to son Savell's ch. Benjamin, Hannah, John and Samuel; to son Samuel's daus.; to gr. ch. Thomas Fuller and John Kendall.
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Sergeant John Tidd's Timeline

1594
October 18, 1594
Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
October 18, 1594
Pontefract, Wakefield, England
October 18, 1594
Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England
October 18, 1594
England
1616
1616
Age 21
Ipswich, Suffolk, England
1617
1617
Age 22
Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
1620
November 23, 1620
Age 26
Ipswich, Suffolk, England, (Present UK)
1620
Age 25
Woburn, Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA
1625
1625
Age 30
Hertford, Hertfordshire, England
1626
September 19, 1626
Age 31
Hertford, Hertfordshire, England