About Edmund le Botiller, Earl Of Karryk
Earl of Carrick Edmond Butler, or Bottelier, the 2nd son, succeeded. He became Earl of Carrick, and in 1302 sat in Parliament as a Baron by the name of Edmond le Boteller. He was knighted in London by Edward II in 1309, and that year, with John, Earl of Kildare. dispersed the rebellion of Connaught and Offaley. By patent, dated at Langley, 4 January, 1314, he was Lord Justice of Ireland, with a fee of 500œ a year, and 9th of Edward II held a Parliament at Kilkenney to raise a subsidy for the defense of the realm, against Edward Bruce and the Scots, for his services against whom and the rebellious Irish he was created Earl of Carrick Mac Griffyne, in the County of Tipperary, by patent dated at Lincoln 1 September, 1315. He died 13 September, 1321. In 1302 he married Joan, daughter of John, 1st Earl of Kildare, and had James, John, Lawrence and two daughters, Joan and one unnamed. (Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 946)
Sir Edmond Butler was invested as a Knight in 1309 at London, England, by King Edward II.4 He held the office of Chief Governor of Ireland from 1312 to 1313.4 He held the office of Chief Governor of Ireland from 4 January 1314/15 to 1317, and was active in suppressing a rebellion.4 On 1 September 1315 he received the feodum of "the Castle and manors of Karryk Macgriffyn and Roscrea", for his services against Edward Bruce and against the rebel Irish. However this creation is held not to have created the title of Earl of Carrick.4
'Edmund Butler, Earl of Carrick and 6th Chief Butler of Ireland (c. 1270 – 13 September 1321) was a noble in the Peerage of Ireland. He was the second son of Theobald Butler, 4th Chief Butler of Ireland.
'Edmund succeeded to his father’s lands upon the death of his elder brother Theobald, the 5th Chief Butler of Ireland, in 1299. He was created Justiciar of Ireland in 1303 with a fee of £500 per annum. In 1309 was knighted by Edward II in London. Three years later he defeated the O'Byrne and O'Toole clans in Glenmalure.
'At a great feast at Dublin on Sunday 29 of September 1313, he created 30 Knights, by patent, dated at Langley 4 January 1314.
'Having distinguished himself during the Bruce campaign in Ireland alongside John de Bermingham, 1st Earl of Louth and Roger Mortimer, Edmund was granted a charter of the castle and manor of Karryk Macgryffin and Roscrea to hold to him and his heirs sub nomine et honore comitis de Karryk. The patent was dated at Lincoln 1 September that year, 1315; on that date, he was given the return of all the King's writs in the cantreds of Oreman (sic Ormond), Elyogerth (sic Eliogarty), and Elyocarroll in County Tipperary. To these was added, on 12 November 1320, all the lands of William de Carran in Finagh and Favmolin in County Waterford.
'However, the charter, while creating an earldom, failed to make Edmund's heir James Earl of Carrick. James was later created Earl of Ormond (Ireland) in his own right in 1328 alongside Roger Mortimer, who was created Earl of March, and the newly created John of Eltham, Earl of Cornwall), brother of King Edward III.
'Edmund went on pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela in 1321 but died in London on 13th September 1321. He was buried at Gowran, County Kilkenny.
'By his wife Joan FitzGerald, daughter of the John FitzGerald, 1st Earl of Kildare, he had several children, the eldest of whom succeeded him as Chief Butler of Ireland but not as Earl of Carrick.
- James Butler, 1st Earl of Ormond (1305–1337)
- John Butler of Clonamicklon (or Limallon) (c. 1305–1330) was the ancestor of the later creation of Viscount Ikerrin and Earl of Carrick (Ireland). By his wife Johanna, he had issue, Edmond.
- Lawrence Butler (died 1339?)
- Joan Butler, who was married in 1321 to Roger Mortimer (second son of Roger, brother to Edward, Earl of March.)
- Unknown daughter who was married to Sir Thomas Dillon of Drumrany, ancestor to Viscount Dillon.
- 1.^ Lodge, John The Peerage of Ireland or, A Genealogical History Of The Present Nobility Of That Kingdom, 1789, Vol IV, p 6.
- 2.^ Lodge, John The Peerage of Ireland or, A Genealogical History Of The Present Nobility Of That Kingdom, 1789, Vol IV, p 7.
- 3.^ Lodge, John, The Peerage of Ireland or, A Genealogical History Of The Present Nobility Of That Kingdom, 1789, Vol II, pg 313.
- 4.^ Lodge, John The Peerage of Ireland or, A Genealogical History Of The Present Nobility Of That Kingdom, 1789, Vol IV, p 7.
- Robert the Bruce's Irish Wars: The Invasions of Ireland 1306–1329, Sean Duffy, 2004.
- The Greatest Traitor: The Life of Sir Roger Mortimer, 1st Earl of March, Ian Mortimer, 2004.
- Ormond, Duke of, Life 1610-'88: Thomas A. Carte, M.A. 6 vols. Oxford, 1851
- The Complete Peerage v.XIIpII,p246,note g
- 'Sir Edmund Butler, Justiciar of Ireland1,2
- 'M, #11121, b. circa 1273, d. 13 September 1321
- Father Theobald le Boteler (Butler)3 b. c 1242, d. 26 Sep 1285
- Mother Joan FitzJohn3 d. 4 Apr 1303
- ' Sir Edmund Butler, Justiciar of Ireland was born circa 1273 at of Rathkennan, Tipperary, Ireland; Age 24, 29 or 30 in 1303.2 He married Joan FitzThomas FitzGerald, daughter of Sir John FitzThomas FitzGerald, 5th Baron Offaly, 1st Earl Kildare and Blanche Roche, in 1302; They had 4 sons (Sir James, 1st Earl of Ormond; Lawrence; Sir Thomas; & John).2 Sir Edmund Butler, Justiciar of Ireland died on 13 September 1321 at London, Middlesex, England; Buried at Gowran, Kilkenny, Ireland.2
- 'Family Joan FitzThomas FitzGerald d. b 2 May 1320
- John Butler
- Lawrence Butler
- Joan Butler d. b 3 Sep 1327
- Blanche Butler+4 b. c 1303
- Sir James Butler, 1st Earl Ormond, Lt. & Chief Butler of Ireland+5,2 b. c 1305, d. 6 Jan 1338
- 1.[S2911] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. II, p. 450; Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 28; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1909.
- 2.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 377.
- 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 376.
- 4.[S61] Unknown author, Family Group Sheets, SLC Archives.
- 5.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 176.
- From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p371.htm#i11121
Notes for Edmund Butler: Governor of Ireland
Edmund Butler le Botiller; granted 1 September 1315 a fief consisting of the castle and manors of Karryk Macgriffyn and Roscrea, whereby he has been by some sources referred to as Earl of Carrick, though the weight of evidence militates against this. [Burke's Peerage]
Edmund Butler, d. London, 13 Sep 1321, son of Theobald le Boteler and Joan Fitz John, daughter of Sir John Fitz Geoffrey and Isabel Bigod. [Magna Charta Sureties]
The 5th Butler [Theobald] stood fifth on the Roll of the Irish Parliament of 1295 without any territorial designation, which indicates that the Chief Butlerage of Ireland carried with it the status of a baron at least. He then accompanied Edward I to Scotland when the Coronation Stone was purloined and in 1299, at the age of 30, died unmarried.
He was succeeded by his brother, Edmund, aged about 26, as 6th Butler. Edmund is an enigma. Like many of his family, he was governor of Ireland. But it was with some reluctance that he accepted the post. Perhaps he had no desire for high office, especially under such an inept monarch as Edward II. Whether his governorship was a success is open to question. It was bedevilled by the Scottish invasion of Ireland under the Bruce brothers and very likely Edmund was no match for them as a general. Yet, he was said to have bestowed peace on the land so effectually that he was able to travel from his barony at Arklow to Limerick, guarded by no more than three horsemen, and his services were recognised and rewarded. In 1315, Edward II granted him the castle and manor of Karryk MacGriffyn and Roscrea to be held by him and his heirs, under the name and honour of Earl of Karryk. Whether there was an accompanying charter actually creating him Earl of Carrick is not now known. He was so styled in a mandate witnessed by Edward II himself at York in 1316, and also, although sporadically, in the Close, Patent and Fine Rolls. But it was an ephemeral earldom and no one knows why. Historians have argued endlessly about it. The explanation could be that in the circumstances the title was of no real consequence. Edmund was already hereditary Chief Butler of Ireland and, as such, had a high place in Parliament. So "Earl of Karryk" may not have meant a great deal to him. Unlike his father-in-law, who bleated that he had the title but not the fleece of Earl of Kildare, Edmund had the fleece but no need for the title of Earl of Carrick. On the other hand, allegations of treachery which were later made against him, though false, may have swayed the wayward king against Edmund.
At all events, with his fair name cleared, he turned to more lasting things in the evening of his life, and in March, 1321, set forth with his devoted younger brother, Thomas, 1st Lord Dunboyne, for Spain, on a pilgrimage to the shrine of St James of Compostela. Spiritually so fortified, Edmund died on his return to London in September; and to this day the Dunboynes bear three escallop shells on their shield to commemorate that pilgrimage. It was performed more than 150 years before Pope Sixtus IV placed pilgrimages to the shrine of St James on official equality with those to Rome and Jerusalem. [Butler Family History]
Edmund married Joan Fitzgerald, daughter of John Fitzgerald 1st Earl Of Kildare and Blanche De La Roche, in 1302.1 (Joan Fitzgerald was born about 1281 in Fermoy, Cork, Munster, Ireland and died on 2 May 1320.)
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- 2 Other Researchers. (??? sic)
- 3 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 7-30.
- 4 Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 509, 1679.
- 5 Butler Family History, 7th Edition 1991, by Lord Dunboyne, Kilkenny Castle Book Shop, 9-10.
- 6 Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 24-6.
- 'Sir Edmond Butler1
- 'M, #151404, d. 13 September 1321
- Last Edited=27 May 2011
- ' Sir Edmond Butler was the son of Theobald Butler and Joan fitz John.2 He married Lady Joan FitzGerald, daughter of John FitzThomas FitzGerald, 1st Earl of Kildare and Blanche de la Roche, in 1302.3 He died on 13 September 1321 at London, England.1,3 He was buried on 9 November 1321 at Gowran, County Kilkenny, Ireland.3
- ' He was invested as a Knight in 1309 at London, England, by King Edward II.4 He held the office of Chief Governor of Ireland from 1312 to 1313.4 He held the office of Chief Governor of Ireland from 4 January 1314/15 to 1317, and was active in suppressing a rebellion.4 On 1 September 1315 he received the feodum of "the Castle and manors of Karryk Macgriffyn and Roscrea", for his services against Edward Bruce and against the rebel Irish. However this creation is held not to have created the title of Earl of Carrick.4
- 'Children of Sir Edmond Butler and Lady Joan FitzGerald
- 1.James Butler, 1st Earl of Ormonde+1 b. c 1305, d. 6 Jan 1337
- 2.John Butler+5 b. 1305, d. 1330
- 1.[S34] Peter Townend, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 105th edition (London, U.K.: Burke's Peerage Ltd, 1970), psge 2048. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage, 105th ed.
- 2.[S34] Peter Townend, Burke's Peerage, 105th ed., psge 2047.
- 3.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume II, page 450. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
- 4.[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume II, page 449.
- 5.[S5382] Lindsay Butler, "re: Butler Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 26 May 2011. Hereinafter cited as "re: Butler Family."
- From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p15141.htm#i151404
- 'Edmund BUTLER (Justiciar and Governor of Ireland)
- 'Born: ABT 1268
- 'Died: 13 Sep 1321, London, Middlesex, England
- 'Notes: styled E. Carrick.
- Father: Theobald BUTLER
- Mother: Joan FITZGEOFFREY
- 'Married: Joan FITZGERALD 1302
- 1. James BUTLER (1° E. Ormonde)
- 2. John BUTLER of Clonamelchon
- From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/BUTLER.htm#Edmund BUTLER (Justiciar and Governor of Ireland)
Sir Edmund Butler, Earl of Carrick, Justiciar of Ireland's Timeline
Edmund succeeded to his father's lands upon the death of his elder brother Theobald, the 5th Chief Butler of Ireland, in 1299
Arklow, , Wicklow, Ireland
He was created Justiciar of Ireland in 1303
Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland
London, Greater London, UK
In 1309 was knighted by Edward II in London
September 13, 1321