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Birthplace: Bispham, Lancashire, England
Death: Died in Probably Wales
Occupation: Gentleman
Managed by: Maria Edmonds-Zediker, Volunteer Curator
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About Sir John Dalton 2nd Husband

Sir John Dalton II was the son of Sir John I & Ellen Hussey and was born in 1335 in Bispham, Lancashire, England. He died in 1407.

Sir John Dalton II bore arms as a Knight Bannaret.

Sir John married 2 wives;

1. Isabel Pilkington and had issue;

2. Elena Radclyffe Boteler

Children:

1. Sir Rychard

2. Roger

3. Sir John

4. Sir Robert

Isabel and Sir John were related within the fourth degree, and because they knew this when they married they were excommunicated. They separated and were given a licence to remarry and a papal dispensation in 1391. The dispensation declared that their children would be legitimate.

In 1385, Sir John was pardoned for marrying Isabel daughter of Roger de Pilkington without licence of the Duke of Lancaster. He left two sons: the elder, Richard, married Katherine and their daughter & heir Alice married William Griffith in or before 1448. John's younger son Robert recovered some lands in Bispham but failed in a claim for the main manor. Robert's son Richard married Elizabeth daughter & coheir of William Fleming of Croston and was followed by his son Roger (who in 1492 made a feoffment of his lands) and grandson William I: a grant of 1500 to William gave the remainder to William's brother Richard.

Petitioners: John de Dalton, knight, Isabel [de Dalton], his wife, Laurence [de Prestwiche (Prestwich)], Thomas Goderobynson (Goodrobinson) alias Thomas de Brereworth.

Addressees: King.

Other people mentioned: John de Dalton, father of John de Dalton; Nicholas de Prestewiche, father of Laurence de Prestewiche.

Nature of request: The petitioners request charters of pardon for all manner of felonies of which they are appealed.

Source: Calendar of the Fine Rolls, Henry IV, 1405-1413, pub HMSO 1933:

Petitioners: John de Dalton, knight, Isabel de Dalton, his wife, Laurence de Prestwiche (Prestwich), Thomas Goderobynson (Goodrobinson) alias Thomas de Brereworth.

Name(s): de Dalton; de Dalton; de Prestwiche (Prestwich); Goderobynson (Goodrobinson); de Brereworth, John; Isabel; Laurence; Thomas; Thomas

Addressees: King.

Nature of request: The petitioners request charters of pardon for all manner of felonies of which they are appealed.

Nature of endorsement: [None]

People mentioned: John de Dalton, father of John de Dalton; Nicholas de Prestewiche, father of Laurence de Prestewiche.

Date derivation: The requested pardons were granted, at the request of John of Gaunt, on 12 February 1396.

Date 1396

Source: Documents Online from The National Archives

8 Feb 1406, Westminster. Order to the escheator of the county of Northampton to take into the king’s hand and keep safely all the lands in his bailiwick whereof John de Dalton ‘chivalier’, who held of the king in chief, was seized in her demesne on the day of his death; and to make inquisition touching his lands and heir.

Source: Calendar of the Fine Rolls, Henry V, 1413-1422, pub. HMSO 1934.

10 June 1414, Westminster. Order to the escheator in the county of Northampton to take into the king’s hand and keep safely until further order all the lands in his bailiwick whereof Isabel late the wife of John de Dalton ‘chivaler’, who held of the king in chief, was seized in her demesne as of fee on the day of her death; and to make inquisition touching her lands and heir.

Source: Calendar of the Fine Rolls, Henry VI, 1437-1445, pub HMSO 1937.

8 Feb 1438, Westminster. Order to the escheator in the county of Northampton; - pursuant to an inquisition taken before him showin that Jon Dalton ‘chivaler’ was seized in his demesne as of fee of 39l. 19s. of rent of Apthorp, and held that rent of Henry IV in chief; and that the said John being sos eized of the said rent, a fine was levied in thye king’s court at Westminster, 3 Henry IV, before William Thirnyng, William Rykhill, John Markham, William Hankeford and William Brenchesle, justices, and others the said king’s lieges, between Roger Thomlynson of Byspeham and William de Grenehirst, querents, and the said John Dalton and Isabel his wife, deforciants, touching the said rent, whereof a plea of covenant was summoned between them in the same court, to wit, that the said John acknowledged the said rent to eb the right of the said Roger and William as that which the said Roger and William had of the gift of the said John, and for that acknowledgement, fine and concord the said Roger and William granted the said rent to the said John and Isabel and rendered it to them in the same court, to hold the same to the said John and Isabel for life, of the said late king and his heirs by the services due and customary, with remainder to Roger Dalton (now deceased), by name of Roger son of the said John and Isabel, for life, and remainder over to the hairs of the bodies of the said John and Isabel for ever; and that the said John and Isabel are dead; and that Richard Dalton is the son and next heir of the said John and Isabel, and of full age; - to cause the said Richard to have full seisin of the said rent, (which has been taken into the king’s hand by the death of the said Roger), as the king has taken his fealty and for 20s. paid in the hanaper has respited his homage until Midsummer next.

Knowsley Estate Origins and History:

It is said that Sir John Dalton Jr. was of Knowsley. In other words he was probably not born there but may of been an owner of some land there. His grandfather was married to Mary de Latham, whos family once owned the Manor of Knowsley.

Knowsley was held by the Lathom family since the twelfth century. In 1385, with the marriage of Isabel de Lathom to Sir John de Stanley the lands passed to the Stanley family who still hold it today. Sir John Stanley was made Lord Deputy of Ireland by Richard II and went on to hold a number of distinguished positions including Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Treasurer of the Royal Household and Lord of the Isle of Man. His grandson Thomas also became Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and in 1456 was summoned to Parliament as Lord Stanley. The second Lord Stanley (another Thomas) was knighted in 1460 and was created the First Earl of Derby by a grateful King Henry VII after his intervention proved decisive in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485. Although Lathom House, near Ormskirk, was the chief seat of the family (until it's destruction in the Civil War), the first Earl must have kept a great house at Knowsley. He built the 'Royal Lodging' in 1495 in honour of Henry VII's visit. In the late sixteenth century it had 118 servants including two trumpeters and a Fool named Henry. By the mid 17th century, the Hall was a huddle of buildings of various dates, materials and uses that ran along the north-south line of the site of the present building. Beyond the Royal Lodging were the kitchens and various court offices, to the east was the chapel with the stables to the north.

In the pleas held at Lancaster Castle before the King's justices on August 29th, 1401, Sir John de Dalton was summoned to answer Robert de Urswyk on a plea that he pay over 100 pounds , which was under a bond dated at Rawcliffe in 1384, to have been paid in Preston in 1385. When the bond was produced in court John refused to acknowledge the writing his and put himself in patria and Urswyk did the same.

Dalton then protested that John Botiller of Rawcliffe, the sheriff and John Laurence and William de Pemberton, two of the kings coroners, were kinsmen of the plaintiff and demanded that they should not meddle with the arraying of the panel but that it committed to the third coroner. The case is resumed in the following February when Dalton's attorney produced royal letters of protection inhibiting his lands and rents from molestation seeing that he was staying in the retinue of Henry Percy warden of Berwick-on-Tweed in the King's obedirnce. it was finally granted that the suit remain sine die.

Source: Copied from the book; "Knights of the Shire of the County Palatine of Lancaster"

BISPHAM

FILE - DDHE 5/1 - date: 11 Apr. 1381

Letter of Attorney: John of Horneby, parson of Tatham, and William son of Robert of Horneby, to Richard of Longlegh -- manor of Byspham, and lands there and in Dalton and Hale -- to take seizin from John son and heir of John of Dalton. Given at Byspham, Thurs. before Easter, 4 Ric. II. Heraldic Seal.

CROSTON

FILE - DDHE 11/24 - date: (1 Jul. 1401.)

Quitclaim: Henry Lee to Henry son of John Wryght of Rufforde -- properties in Croston had from Henry Waterwarde, chaplain, and John Pawson of Croston who had them from Cicily wife of H.L. -- Witn: Sir Thomas Flemmyng, Sir John of Dalton, William of Croston. Given at Croston Fri. after St. John Bap., 2 Hen. IV.

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Sir John Dalton, Jr., Kt. 2nd Husband's Timeline

1334
1334
Bispham, Lancashire, England
1363
1363
Age 29
Penrhyn, Llandygai, Caernarvon, Wales
1372
1372
Age 38
1380
1380
Age 46
Bispham, Lancashire, United Kingdom
1390
1390
Age 56
Althorpe,,Northamptonshire,England
1407
1407
Age 73
Probably Wales
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