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John Grey (knight)

Sir John Grey KG (c. 1387 – 27 August 1439), English nobleman and soldier, of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales, Badmondisfield (in Wickhambrook), Suffolk, Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, etc., 2nd but eldest surviving son and heir apparent of Sir Reginald Grey, 3rd Baron Grey de Ruthyn by his 1st wife, Margaret Roos.[1] He was also Captain of Gournay.


He traveled with the king to France in 1415 and 1417.[1] He fought at the Battle of Agincourt and was invested as the 151st Knight of the Garter on 5 May 1436.[1]


He married (1st) before Trinity term 1410 (as her 2nd husband) Constance Holand (c.1387–14 November 1437), the daughter of John Holland, 1st Duke of Exeter (half brother of King Richard II), by his wife, Elizabeth of Lancaster;.[1] By her mother, Constance was a niece of King Henry IV. Constance married (1st) before 1 June 1402 (by papal dispensation dated 18 Sept. 1391, they being related in the 4th degree of kindred) Sir Thomas Mowbray, 4th Earl of Norfolk, Earl of Nottingham, Earl Marshal, Lord Mowbray, Segrave, and Gower.[1] They had no issue. Sir Thomas Mowbray was executed 8 June 1405 due to his revolt against her uncle, King Henry IV.[1]


Sir John Grey and Constance Holand had three children:[1]

  • Sir Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent (1416–1490)[1]
  • Sir Thomas Grey, Lord Richemount Grey, of Simpson, Buckinghamshire, Richemount, Bedfordshire, Merton, Westmorland, Langton, Yorkshire, etc., Justice of the Peace for Buckinghamshire, 1453–8, Justice of the Peace for Bedfordshire, 1455. He was created Baron of Richemount Grey by charter dated 25 June 1450, with remainder to his heirs male. He fought on the Lancastrian side at the Battle of Towton 29 March 1461. He was subsequently attainted Nov. 1461 by the first Parliament of King Edward IV, whereby his honours and lands were forfeited, and he was executed soon afterwards.[2]
  • Constance Grey, who married Sir Richard Herbert.[1]

Constance, Countess Marshal, died 12 (or 14) Nov. 1437, and was buried in a chapel at St. Katherine by the Tower, London by her brother, John Holand, Duke of Exeter. Following her death, Sir John Grey married (2nd) before 1 July 1438 Margaret Mowbray, daughter of Thomas Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk and widow of Sir Robert Howard.[1] They had no issue.[1]


Sir John Grey died 27 August 1439. His widow, Margaret, received a papal indult for a portable altar 3 August 1446. She died shortly before 18 October 1459.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Grey_(knight)

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  • Sir John Grey, Captain of Gournay1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17
  • M, #27475, b. circa 1381, d. 27 August 1439
  • Father Sir Reynold (Reginald) Grey, 3rd Baron Grey of Ruthyn, Governor of Ireland, Lord of Hastings & Wexford18,19,7,20,13 b. c 1362, d. 18 Oct 1440
  • Mother Margaret Roos18,19,7,20,13 d. b 7 Feb 1415
  • Sir John Grey, Captain of Gournay was born circa 1381 at of Ruthyn, Denbighshire, Wales. He married Constance Holand, daughter of Sir John Holand, 1st Duke Exeter, Earl of Huntingdon, Great Chamberlain of England and Elizabeth Plantagenet, before April 1410; They had 2 sons (Sir Edmund, 1st Earl of Kent, 4th Lord Grey of Ruthin; & Sir Thomas, Lord Richemount Grey) and 1 daughter (Constance, wife of Sir Richard Herbert).21,22,3,4,6,9,10,12,14,16,17 Sir John Grey, Captain of Gournay married Margaret Mowbray, daughter of Sir Thomas Mowbray, 1st Earl Nottingham, 1st Duke of Norfolk; Lord Mowbray, Segrave, & Stourton and Elizabeth FitzAlan, before 1 July 1438; No issue.2,3,5,6,7,8,11,12,13,15 Sir John Grey, Captain of Gournay died on 27 August 1439 at of Badmondisfield in Wickhambrook, Suffolk, England.3,6,7,12,13
  • Family 1 Constance Holand b. 1387, d. 14 Nov 1437
  • Children
    • Sir Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent, 4th Baron Grey of Ruthin, Lord High Treasurer+3,6,23,12 b. 26 Oct 1416, d. 22 May 1490
    • Sir Thomas Grey, Lord Richemount Grey, Justice of the Peace for Buckinghamshire & Bedfordshire24,25,6,10,12,14,17 b. c 1418, d. c Nov 1461
  • Family 2 Margaret Mowbray b. c 1388, d. c 18 Oct 1459
  • Citations
  • 1.[S8522] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. VI, p. 159; Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, by David Faris, p. 121; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1162.
  • 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 235.
  • 3.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 621-622.
  • 4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 134.
  • 5.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 197.
  • 6.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 277-278.
  • 7.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 411.
  • 8.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 211.
  • 9.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 210.
  • 10.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 346-347.
  • 11.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 618.
  • 12.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 129-130.
  • 13.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 332.
  • 14.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 392-393.
  • 15.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 191.
  • 16.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 190.
  • 17.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 372-373.
  • 18.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 620-621.
  • 19.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 275.
  • 20.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 126-127.
  • 21.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. IX, p. 605.
  • 22.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 299.
  • 23.[S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 106.
  • 24.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. X, p. 777.
  • 25.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 766-767.
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p915.htm#i27475
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  • Sir John Grey1
  • M, #107303, b. circa 1387, d. 27 August 1439
  • Last Edited=1 May 2011
  • Sir John Grey was born circa 1387. He was the son of Reynold Grey, 3rd Lord Grey (of Ruthin) and Margaret de Ros.2 He married Lady Constance de Holand, daughter of John de Holand, 1st Duke of Exeter and Elizabeth Plantagenet, before 24 February 1412/13.3 He died on 27 August 1439.2
  • He fought in the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.4 He was invested as a Knight, Order of the Garter (K.G.) in 1436.5
  • Children of Sir John Grey and Lady Constance de Holand
    • 1.Thomas Grey, 1st Baron of Richemount Grey6 d. c Dec 1461
    • 2.Edmund Grey, 1st Earl of Kent+7 b. 26 Oct 1416, d. 22 May 1490
  • Citations
  • 1.[S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 100. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Families.
  • 2.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume VI, page 159. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  • 3.[S37] BP2003 volume 2, page 1817. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
  • 4.[S37] BP2003. [S37]
  • 5.[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume VI, page 155.
  • 6.[S21] L. G. Pine, The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971: Containing Extinct, Abeyant, Dormant and Suspended Peerages With Genealogies and Arms (London, U.K.: Heraldry Today, 1972), page 136. Hereinafter cited as The New Extinct Peerage.
  • 7.[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume VII, page 164.
  • From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p10731.htm#i107303
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  • John GREY (Sir Knight)
  • Born: ABT 1387, Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
  • Died: 27 Aug 1439, Badmondisfield, Suffolk, England
  • Notes: Knight of the Garter. Served in the French wars.
  • Father: Reginald GREY (3° B. Grey of Ruthin)
  • Mother: Margaret ROS
  • Married: Constance HOLLAND (b. 1387 - d. 1437) (dau. of John Holland, 1º D. Exeter; and Elizabeth Plantagenet)
  • Children:
    • 1. Alice GREY
    • 2. Edmund GREY (1° E. Kent)
    • 3. Constance GREY
    • 4. Thomas GREY (1° B. Richemound)
  • From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/GREY3.htm#John GREY (Sir Knight)1
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  • Reginald Grey, 3rd Baron Grey de Ruthyn (c. 1362 – 30 September 1440), a powerful Welsh marcher lord, succeeded to the title on his father Reginald's death in July 1388.
  • Reginald was the eldest son of Reginald Grey, 2nd Baron Grey de Ruthyn and Eleanor Le Strange of Blackmere. His paternal grandparents were Roger Grey, 1st Baron Grey de Ruthyn and Elizabeth de Hastings. His maternal grandparents were John Le Strange, 2nd Baron Strange of Blackmere and Ankaret Le Botiller. His youngest sister Ida de Grey, who married Sir John Cockayne, was an ancestress of Anne and Mary Boleyn.[citation needed]
  • Grey married firstly, after 25 November 1378, Margaret de Roos (or Ros), daughter of Thomas de Ros, 4th Baron de Ros and Beatrice Stafford, daughter of Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford, by whom he had two sons and several daughters, including:[1]
    • Thomas Grey (living 1387).[1]
    • Sir John Grey, eldest surviving son,[1] (c. 1387 – 1439), who predeceased his father. He married Constance Holland, the daughter of Elizabeth Plantagenet and John Holland, 1st Duke of Exeter by whom he had issue.[citation needed]
    • Margaret Grey[1] (d. aft. May 1426), who married William Bonville, 1st Baron Bonville. These were the great-grandparents of wealthy heiress Cecily Bonville who married Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset, a descendant of Reginald Grey by his second marriage.[citation needed]
    • Catherine Grey (born 1392), married George Lucy, Baron Lucy.[citation needed]
    • Eleanor Grey, who married Robert Poynings, 4th Baron Poynings, by whom she had three sons, Sir Richard Poynings (d. 10 June 1429), Sir Robert Poynings and Edward Poynings (d. 1484).[1] [2]
  • Grey married secondly on 7 February 1415, Joan de Astley, daughter of Sir William de Astley, 5th Baron Astley and Catherine de Willoughby, by whom he had three sons and three daughters, including:
    • Sir Edward Grey (c. 1415/1416 - 18 December 1457),[citation needed] who married Elizabeth Ferrers, 6th Baroness Ferrers of Groby, and had five children including Sir John Grey of Groby, the first husband of Elizabeth Woodville.[citation needed]
    • Robert Grey (born 1419),[citation needed] who married Eleanor Lowe.[3]
    • John Grey of Kempston, Bedfordshire.[3]
    • Constance Grey, who married Sir John Cressy.[1]
    • Elizabeth Grey, who married Sir William Calthorpe, by whom she had issue.[3]
    • Eleanor Grey, who married William Lucy, esquire, of Charlecote, Warwickshire.[3]
    • Alice Grey, married Sir John Knyvett
  • In 1410 after a long dispute, the younger Reginald won the right to bear the arms of the Hastings family. .... etc.
  • From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Grey,_3rd_Baron_Grey_de_Ruthyn
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  • Links
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Mowbray,_1st_Duke_of_Norfolk
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holland,_1st_Duke_of_Exeter
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_of_Lancaster,_Duchess_of_Exeter
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Grey,_1st_Earl_of_Kent
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Sir John Grey, KG's Timeline

1387
1387
Ruthin, Denbigh, Wales
1410
1410
Age 23
Buckenham Cas, , Norfolk, England
1414
1414
Age 27
Of, Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
1415
1415
Age 28
Buckenham Castle, Norfolk, England
1416
October 26, 1416
Age 29
Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
1418
1418
Age 31
Ruthin,Denbighshire,Wales
1438
July 1, 1438
Age 51
1439
August 27, 1439
Age 52
Norfolk, England
August 1439
Age 52
1922
October 3, 1922
Age 52